Anonymous
Post 05/10/2025 10:45     Subject: Tracking calories but scale won’t budge

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. I have IGA Nephropathy. I can have 40 g of protein a day. Ideally plant based or fish but not red meat. I am not a fish fan so I do chicken breast. I also watch my sodium intake. My nephrologist says that having very low body fat reduces inflammation and helps the kidneys. She supports the weight loss as long as my bloodwork remains good. If I eat more calories than 1,000, I definitely gain. There is no cure for the disease so I am doing what I can to slow progression.


There is no way your doctor said this. At 5’2” 112 and age 50, you are already at the low end of normal for body weight. 98 lbs would make you underweight. By trying to lose this weight, you aren’t lowering body fat like you think, your body will be eating your muscle This is going to weaken you and could potentially damage your heart, and deplete your bone density. Especially as you age, it’s imperative you maintain or grow your muscle mass and bone density if you want to age with a high quality of life and maintain optimal mobility.

If you starve yourself down to 98 lbs, I promise you, it will cause lasting damage. Labs are not a good indicator of health. Plenty of hunched over bed-bound frail old ladies have normal labs.


I don’t know that I buy this. My family live in a European country. I have aunts in their 70s. They eat very sparingly. I would say 1,000 to 1,200 a day. Granted it is healthy, fresh food and not processed junk. They walk a lot. But none lift weights and none are at all frail.

We recently took a vacation and walked 20,000 to 25,000 steps a day to fit seeing everything in. I had plenty of energy and stamina.


I personally know many women in their 70s eating 600-900 a day and while they don’t do iron man race or CrossFit, they walk around, cook and babysit grandkids just fine.


I seriously doubt that.

I did have a grandmother who didn't eat much in her 70s. And she fell and had a very severe hip break which caused her health to collapse.

And this "people in Europe don't eat much" stuff is total bunk. Do you actually know anyone who lives in Europe because I do actually have family in the EU and they eat normally, they're much skinnier because they walk and bike everywhere.
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2025 10:42     Subject: Tracking calories but scale won’t budge

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. I have IGA Nephropathy. I can have 40 g of protein a day. Ideally plant based or fish but not red meat. I am not a fish fan so I do chicken breast. I also watch my sodium intake. My nephrologist says that having very low body fat reduces inflammation and helps the kidneys. She supports the weight loss as long as my bloodwork remains good. If I eat more calories than 1,000, I definitely gain. There is no cure for the disease so I am doing what I can to slow progression.


There is no way your doctor said this. At 5’2” 112 and age 50, you are already at the low end of normal for body weight. 98 lbs would make you underweight. By trying to lose this weight, you aren’t lowering body fat like you think, your body will be eating your muscle This is going to weaken you and could potentially damage your heart, and deplete your bone density. Especially as you age, it’s imperative you maintain or grow your muscle mass and bone density if you want to age with a high quality of life and maintain optimal mobility.

If you starve yourself down to 98 lbs, I promise you, it will cause lasting damage. Labs are not a good indicator of health. Plenty of hunched over bed-bound frail old ladies have normal labs.


I don’t know that I buy this. My family live in a European country. I have aunts in their 70s. They eat very sparingly. I would say 1,000 to 1,200 a day. Granted it is healthy, fresh food and not processed junk. They walk a lot. But none lift weights and none are at all frail.

We recently took a vacation and walked 20,000 to 25,000 steps a day to fit seeing everything in. I had plenty of energy and stamina.


I personally know many women in their 70s eating 600-900 a day and while they don’t do iron man race or CrossFit, they walk around, cook and babysit grandkids just fine.


Cool. OP is 20 years younger than that and claims to burn nearly double those calories.
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2025 10:41     Subject: Tracking calories but scale won’t budge

Anonymous wrote:I don't see any obese women at my mother's nursing home. None. And we're talking very wealthy women.

75% of the US is overweight and a lot of people have just given up. Many people need to eat less.


What does that have to do with OP?
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2025 06:51     Subject: Tracking calories but scale won’t budge

I don't see any obese women at my mother's nursing home. None. And we're talking very wealthy women.

75% of the US is overweight and a lot of people have just given up. Many people need to eat less.
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2025 06:46     Subject: Tracking calories but scale won’t budge

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. I have IGA Nephropathy. I can have 40 g of protein a day. Ideally plant based or fish but not red meat. I am not a fish fan so I do chicken breast. I also watch my sodium intake. My nephrologist says that having very low body fat reduces inflammation and helps the kidneys. She supports the weight loss as long as my bloodwork remains good. If I eat more calories than 1,000, I definitely gain. There is no cure for the disease so I am doing what I can to slow progression.


There is no way your doctor said this. At 5’2” 112 and age 50, you are already at the low end of normal for body weight. 98 lbs would make you underweight. By trying to lose this weight, you aren’t lowering body fat like you think, your body will be eating your muscle This is going to weaken you and could potentially damage your heart, and deplete your bone density. Especially as you age, it’s imperative you maintain or grow your muscle mass and bone density if you want to age with a high quality of life and maintain optimal mobility.

If you starve yourself down to 98 lbs, I promise you, it will cause lasting damage. Labs are not a good indicator of health. Plenty of hunched over bed-bound frail old ladies have normal labs.


I don’t know that I buy this. My family live in a European country. I have aunts in their 70s. They eat very sparingly. I would say 1,000 to 1,200 a day. Granted it is healthy, fresh food and not processed junk. They walk a lot. But none lift weights and none are at all frail.

We recently took a vacation and walked 20,000 to 25,000 steps a day to fit seeing everything in. I had plenty of energy and stamina.


I personally know many women in their 70s eating 600-900 a day and while they don’t do iron man race or CrossFit, they walk around, cook and babysit grandkids just fine.
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2025 06:44     Subject: Tracking calories but scale won’t budge

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. I have IGA Nephropathy. I can have 40 g of protein a day. Ideally plant based or fish but not red meat. I am not a fish fan so I do chicken breast. I also watch my sodium intake. My nephrologist says that having very low body fat reduces inflammation and helps the kidneys. She supports the weight loss as long as my bloodwork remains good. If I eat more calories than 1,000, I definitely gain. There is no cure for the disease so I am doing what I can to slow progression.


That's tough.

I'd suggest changing your protein sources. Chicken is the lowest quality meat you can eat besides shellfish. If you MUST INSIST on chicken, eat thighs over breasts.

Red meat is definitely what you should eat though, beef/steak. Since you cannot eat much, buy quality steaks and have a small piece each day.

Other than that, eggs and milk for protein.

Try 80% fats, 15% protein, 5% carbs for fat loss while trying to maintain muscle.

Cut out cardio completely, and just lift weights. You can make weight training into cardio by reducing rest between sets.


Thanks. Red meat is harder on the kidneys so I have to avoid it. I do eat eggs and yogurt. I do the brisk walking for heart health but I mostly stick to weights.


Read more about that. It has more creatine, but BUN creatine levels are not indicative of being "unhealthy" for the kidneys, it's just doctors are moslty still ignorant about creatine and it's role in the Krebs Cycle.

Elevated BUN creatine is a sign of kidney damage, but NOT if it is due to your diet. Bodybuilders eat tons of pure creatine and their levels are very high, but have very healthy kidneys. So I'd suggest researching more on that.

At any rate, eggs and dairy are good complete proteins as well. Fish and chicken are pretty low on the totem pole. If you can find real fresh caught salmon and eat the skin (scale it first) then it's pretty healthy.


Chicken is very cheap! I grow up on this stuff. Wild caught salmon is 34/lb now. Wealth is health.
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2025 21:39     Subject: Tracking calories but scale won’t budge

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. I have IGA Nephropathy. I can have 40 g of protein a day. Ideally plant based or fish but not red meat. I am not a fish fan so I do chicken breast. I also watch my sodium intake. My nephrologist says that having very low body fat reduces inflammation and helps the kidneys. She supports the weight loss as long as my bloodwork remains good. If I eat more calories than 1,000, I definitely gain. There is no cure for the disease so I am doing what I can to slow progression.


There is no way your doctor said this. At 5’2” 112 and age 50, you are already at the low end of normal for body weight. 98 lbs would make you underweight. By trying to lose this weight, you aren’t lowering body fat like you think, your body will be eating your muscle This is going to weaken you and could potentially damage your heart, and deplete your bone density. Especially as you age, it’s imperative you maintain or grow your muscle mass and bone density if you want to age with a high quality of life and maintain optimal mobility.

If you starve yourself down to 98 lbs, I promise you, it will cause lasting damage. Labs are not a good indicator of health. Plenty of hunched over bed-bound frail old ladies have normal labs.


I don’t know that I buy this. My family live in a European country. I have aunts in their 70s. They eat very sparingly. I would say 1,000 to 1,200 a day. Granted it is healthy, fresh food and not processed junk. They walk a lot. But none lift weights and none are at all frail.

We recently took a vacation and walked 20,000 to 25,000 steps a day to fit seeing everything in. I had plenty of energy and stamina.


This is entirely different than eating 800 calories and considering even less in order to lose 15 lbs off an already lower weight body in order to become clinically underweight. OP is purposely trying to starve herself in order to become underweight. That will indeed waste your muscle and leave you frail
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2025 21:36     Subject: Tracking calories but scale won’t budge

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. I have IGA Nephropathy. I can have 40 g of protein a day. Ideally plant based or fish but not red meat. I am not a fish fan so I do chicken breast. I also watch my sodium intake. My nephrologist says that having very low body fat reduces inflammation and helps the kidneys. She supports the weight loss as long as my bloodwork remains good. If I eat more calories than 1,000, I definitely gain. There is no cure for the disease so I am doing what I can to slow progression.


There is no way your doctor said this. At 5’2” 112 and age 50, you are already at the low end of normal for body weight. 98 lbs would make you underweight. By trying to lose this weight, you aren’t lowering body fat like you think, your body will be eating your muscle This is going to weaken you and could potentially damage your heart, and deplete your bone density. Especially as you age, it’s imperative you maintain or grow your muscle mass and bone density if you want to age with a high quality of life and maintain optimal mobility.

If you starve yourself down to 98 lbs, I promise you, it will cause lasting damage. Labs are not a good indicator of health. Plenty of hunched over bed-bound frail old ladies have normal labs.


I don’t know that I buy this. My family live in a European country. I have aunts in their 70s. They eat very sparingly. I would say 1,000 to 1,200 a day. Granted it is healthy, fresh food and not processed junk. They walk a lot. But none lift weights and none are at all frail.

We recently took a vacation and walked 20,000 to 25,000 steps a day to fit seeing everything in. I had plenty of energy and stamina.


1200 calories is, of course, 50% more calories than OP’s low end.
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2025 21:13     Subject: Tracking calories but scale won’t budge

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. I have IGA Nephropathy. I can have 40 g of protein a day. Ideally plant based or fish but not red meat. I am not a fish fan so I do chicken breast. I also watch my sodium intake. My nephrologist says that having very low body fat reduces inflammation and helps the kidneys. She supports the weight loss as long as my bloodwork remains good. If I eat more calories than 1,000, I definitely gain. There is no cure for the disease so I am doing what I can to slow progression.


There is no way your doctor said this. At 5’2” 112 and age 50, you are already at the low end of normal for body weight. 98 lbs would make you underweight. By trying to lose this weight, you aren’t lowering body fat like you think, your body will be eating your muscle This is going to weaken you and could potentially damage your heart, and deplete your bone density. Especially as you age, it’s imperative you maintain or grow your muscle mass and bone density if you want to age with a high quality of life and maintain optimal mobility.

If you starve yourself down to 98 lbs, I promise you, it will cause lasting damage. Labs are not a good indicator of health. Plenty of hunched over bed-bound frail old ladies have normal labs.


I don’t know that I buy this. My family live in a European country. I have aunts in their 70s. They eat very sparingly. I would say 1,000 to 1,200 a day. Granted it is healthy, fresh food and not processed junk. They walk a lot. But none lift weights and none are at all frail.

We recently took a vacation and walked 20,000 to 25,000 steps a day to fit seeing everything in. I had plenty of energy and stamina.
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2025 20:38     Subject: Tracking calories but scale won’t budge

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. I have IGA Nephropathy. I can have 40 g of protein a day. Ideally plant based or fish but not red meat. I am not a fish fan so I do chicken breast. I also watch my sodium intake. My nephrologist says that having very low body fat reduces inflammation and helps the kidneys. She supports the weight loss as long as my bloodwork remains good. If I eat more calories than 1,000, I definitely gain. There is no cure for the disease so I am doing what I can to slow progression.


That's tough.

I'd suggest changing your protein sources. Chicken is the lowest quality meat you can eat besides shellfish. If you MUST INSIST on chicken, eat thighs over breasts.

Red meat is definitely what you should eat though, beef/steak. Since you cannot eat much, buy quality steaks and have a small piece each day.

Other than that, eggs and milk for protein.

Try 80% fats, 15% protein, 5% carbs for fat loss while trying to maintain muscle.

Cut out cardio completely, and just lift weights. You can make weight training into cardio by reducing rest between sets.


Thanks. Red meat is harder on the kidneys so I have to avoid it. I do eat eggs and yogurt. I do the brisk walking for heart health but I mostly stick to weights.


Read more about that. It has more creatine, but BUN creatine levels are not indicative of being "unhealthy" for the kidneys, it's just doctors are moslty still ignorant about creatine and it's role in the Krebs Cycle.

Elevated BUN creatine is a sign of kidney damage, but NOT if it is due to your diet. Bodybuilders eat tons of pure creatine and their levels are very high, but have very healthy kidneys. So I'd suggest researching more on that.

At any rate, eggs and dairy are good complete proteins as well. Fish and chicken are pretty low on the totem pole. If you can find real fresh caught salmon and eat the skin (scale it first) then it's pretty healthy.


Stop spreading misinformation. ALL animal protein is hard on the kidneys. If you have healthy kidneys you’re probably going to be fine; if you have any sort of kidney disease (as many Americans do and have yet to be diagnosed) you’re potentially causing irreversible damage.


OP here. All protein is hard on kidneys but red meat protein more so. Nephrologists say that and renal dieticians do as well. I have read several academic studies that support this as well.


I repeat: ALL animal protein is hard on the kidneys. Red meat might be the worst, but you might want to seriously consider going vegan.
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2025 20:35     Subject: Tracking calories but scale won’t budge

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. I have IGA Nephropathy. I can have 40 g of protein a day. Ideally plant based or fish but not red meat. I am not a fish fan so I do chicken breast. I also watch my sodium intake. My nephrologist says that having very low body fat reduces inflammation and helps the kidneys. She supports the weight loss as long as my bloodwork remains good. If I eat more calories than 1,000, I definitely gain. There is no cure for the disease so I am doing what I can to slow progression.


That's tough.

I'd suggest changing your protein sources. Chicken is the lowest quality meat you can eat besides shellfish. If you MUST INSIST on chicken, eat thighs over breasts.

Red meat is definitely what you should eat though, beef/steak. Since you cannot eat much, buy quality steaks and have a small piece each day.

Other than that, eggs and milk for protein.

Try 80% fats, 15% protein, 5% carbs for fat loss while trying to maintain muscle.

Cut out cardio completely, and just lift weights. You can make weight training into cardio by reducing rest between sets.


Thanks. Red meat is harder on the kidneys so I have to avoid it. I do eat eggs and yogurt. I do the brisk walking for heart health but I mostly stick to weights.


Read more about that. It has more creatine, but BUN creatine levels are not indicative of being "unhealthy" for the kidneys, it's just doctors are moslty still ignorant about creatine and it's role in the Krebs Cycle.

Elevated BUN creatine is a sign of kidney damage, but NOT if it is due to your diet. Bodybuilders eat tons of pure creatine and their levels are very high, but have very healthy kidneys. So I'd suggest researching more on that.

At any rate, eggs and dairy are good complete proteins as well. Fish and chicken are pretty low on the totem pole. If you can find real fresh caught salmon and eat the skin (scale it first) then it's pretty healthy.


Stop spreading misinformation. ALL animal protein is hard on the kidneys. If you have healthy kidneys you’re probably going to be fine; if you have any sort of kidney disease (as many Americans do and have yet to be diagnosed) you’re potentially causing irreversible damage.


OP here. All protein is hard on kidneys but red meat protein more so. Nephrologists say that and renal dieticians do as well. I have read several academic studies that support this as well.
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2025 19:48     Subject: Tracking calories but scale won’t budge

Anonymous wrote:See it's not ok to bash heavy women but women who exercise and eat healthy get slammed. How about everyone just worry about themselves.


Nothing in the post is even close to eating healthy. One meal a day? 800 calories? You're getting slammed because this is not normal.
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2025 19:47     Subject: Tracking calories but scale won’t budge

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. I have IGA Nephropathy. I can have 40 g of protein a day. Ideally plant based or fish but not red meat. I am not a fish fan so I do chicken breast. I also watch my sodium intake. My nephrologist says that having very low body fat reduces inflammation and helps the kidneys. She supports the weight loss as long as my bloodwork remains good. If I eat more calories than 1,000, I definitely gain. There is no cure for the disease so I am doing what I can to slow progression.


That's tough.

I'd suggest changing your protein sources. Chicken is the lowest quality meat you can eat besides shellfish. If you MUST INSIST on chicken, eat thighs over breasts.

Red meat is definitely what you should eat though, beef/steak. Since you cannot eat much, buy quality steaks and have a small piece each day.

Other than that, eggs and milk for protein.

Try 80% fats, 15% protein, 5% carbs for fat loss while trying to maintain muscle.

Cut out cardio completely, and just lift weights. You can make weight training into cardio by reducing rest between sets.


Thanks. Red meat is harder on the kidneys so I have to avoid it. I do eat eggs and yogurt. I do the brisk walking for heart health but I mostly stick to weights.


Read more about that. It has more creatine, but BUN creatine levels are not indicative of being "unhealthy" for the kidneys, it's just doctors are moslty still ignorant about creatine and it's role in the Krebs Cycle.

Elevated BUN creatine is a sign of kidney damage, but NOT if it is due to your diet. Bodybuilders eat tons of pure creatine and their levels are very high, but have very healthy kidneys. So I'd suggest researching more on that.

At any rate, eggs and dairy are good complete proteins as well. Fish and chicken are pretty low on the totem pole. If you can find real fresh caught salmon and eat the skin (scale it first) then it's pretty healthy.


Stop spreading misinformation. ALL animal protein is hard on the kidneys. If you have healthy kidneys you’re probably going to be fine; if you have any sort of kidney disease (as many Americans do and have yet to be diagnosed) you’re potentially causing irreversible damage.
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2025 19:40     Subject: Tracking calories but scale won’t budge

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. I have IGA Nephropathy. I can have 40 g of protein a day. Ideally plant based or fish but not red meat. I am not a fish fan so I do chicken breast. I also watch my sodium intake. My nephrologist says that having very low body fat reduces inflammation and helps the kidneys. She supports the weight loss as long as my bloodwork remains good. If I eat more calories than 1,000, I definitely gain. There is no cure for the disease so I am doing what I can to slow progression.


That's tough.

I'd suggest changing your protein sources. Chicken is the lowest quality meat you can eat besides shellfish. If you MUST INSIST on chicken, eat thighs over breasts.

Red meat is definitely what you should eat though, beef/steak. Since you cannot eat much, buy quality steaks and have a small piece each day.

Other than that, eggs and milk for protein.

Try 80% fats, 15% protein, 5% carbs for fat loss while trying to maintain muscle.

Cut out cardio completely, and just lift weights. You can make weight training into cardio by reducing rest between sets.


Thanks. Red meat is harder on the kidneys so I have to avoid it. I do eat eggs and yogurt. I do the brisk walking for heart health but I mostly stick to weights.


Read more about that. It has more creatine, but BUN creatine levels are not indicative of being "unhealthy" for the kidneys, it's just doctors are moslty still ignorant about creatine and it's role in the Krebs Cycle.

Elevated BUN creatine is a sign of kidney damage, but NOT if it is due to your diet. Bodybuilders eat tons of pure creatine and their levels are very high, but have very healthy kidneys. So I'd suggest researching more on that.

At any rate, eggs and dairy are good complete proteins as well. Fish and chicken are pretty low on the totem pole. If you can find real fresh caught salmon and eat the skin (scale it first) then it's pretty healthy.
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2025 18:27     Subject: Tracking calories but scale won’t budge

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. I have IGA Nephropathy. I can have 40 g of protein a day. Ideally plant based or fish but not red meat. I am not a fish fan so I do chicken breast. I also watch my sodium intake. My nephrologist says that having very low body fat reduces inflammation and helps the kidneys. She supports the weight loss as long as my bloodwork remains good. If I eat more calories than 1,000, I definitely gain. There is no cure for the disease so I am doing what I can to slow progression.


There is no way your doctor said this. At 5’2” 112 and age 50, you are already at the low end of normal for body weight. 98 lbs would make you underweight. By trying to lose this weight, you aren’t lowering body fat like you think, your body will be eating your muscle This is going to weaken you and could potentially damage your heart, and deplete your bone density. Especially as you age, it’s imperative you maintain or grow your muscle mass and bone density if you want to age with a high quality of life and maintain optimal mobility.

If you starve yourself down to 98 lbs, I promise you, it will cause lasting damage. Labs are not a good indicator of health. Plenty of hunched over bed-bound frail old ladies have normal labs.


humans are designed to be on the move all day long, not getting 3 hours of strength sessions then eat a manufactured meal.
the muscle mass talking point is way too one dimensional when we talk about health. so is blood work.



No one said anything about 3 hrs of strength training. Muscle mass decreases naturally as you age. Starving yourself 50 in an attempt to be underweight will accelerate that x10. OP will not be able to be “on the move” if she continues on this trajectory. She will be at risk for falling and breaking bones


Some women (race dependent) naturally have small bones and muscles and need less calories. Not everyone is a half Viking.


People in vegetative states getting tube fed need more than 800 calories per day