Anonymous wrote:I always told mine especially as they had a lost twin and I had pics of them in the petri dish which is kind of cool.

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Anonymous wrote:Op get a life and stop trolling. Do share the “scientific method” available to assess the IQ of a fetus.

There are companies that run polygenic scores for IQ on embryo DNA data. A few people have already done this and I’m one of these people. This practice is not common yet, but will likely become more common over time. This is a serious question and I’m asking for answers on what age it’s appropriate to tell the kids about it.

So you threw away the low IQ embryos?

Still have them. Just transferred embryos with a higher expected IQ score first. Not sure how many kids I want at this point, so still have the rest.

Anonymous wrote:When my kids were babies a friend recommended that you tell them on their first birthday. Of course one year olds don’t understand that, but the idea is that it isn’t something that is ever hidden. Just part of how you discuss their birth and biology with them. Then as they get older and ask questions about where babies come from it’s not pulling out some big secret to say “we wanted you so much so we went to a doctor to help us have you.”

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the pull to share this.

I mean if it is the result of a genetic condition that impacts fertility and your children encounter or are expected to encounter it as an adult, sure. But garden variety, non-heridetary trouble conveiving seems not important to share with children (child or adult) - you don't share that they were conveived in a bed or in a car or in a petri dish, right? It's uncomfortable and unnecessary, but up to you, I guess.

As for the IQ screening part: do not share. This could really backfire on you if your kids are hurt or offended, and if you have more kids with the lower ranked embryos, you'll have opened a pandora's box that is really hurtful and controversial. Do NOT share this. It is dangerous ammunition that will be out of your hands once you do.

Going through the process of having my child evaluated and diagnosed with ADHD involved filling out multiple forms that explicitly asked if they were conceived through IVF, how many weeks gestation at birth, birthweight, etc. It’s part of my child’s medical history and nothing to be ashamed of. Why wouldn’t I divulge it?

You know how kids are grossed out when they find out how babies are made? Not my kids! Their father and I weren’t even in the room when sperm met egg. Like a previous poster, we frequently drive past the clinic where they were conceived.

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Anonymous wrote:When should I tell my kids that they are IVF babies? Should I also tell them that we did IQ screening on the embryos or should I wait until they are adults to mention this detail? At what age did you tell your kids that they were IVF babies and how did you explain it?

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Why would you ever tell your children this?

I’m leaning towards telling them, but maybe in high school or college. Part of me thinks it would be better to tell them much earlier to normalize the idea though. Just tell them we did testing to ensure they ate healthy and elaborate that it also included IQ later.

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Anonymous wrote:Op get a life and stop trolling. Do share the “scientific method” available to assess the IQ of a fetus.

There are companies that run polygenic scores for IQ on embryo DNA data. A few people have already done this and I’m one of these people. This practice is not common yet, but will likely become more common over time. This is a serious question and I’m asking for answers on what age it’s appropriate to tell the kids about it.

Oh really? Name them and cite the evidence behind them. And then go out and find something productive to do with your life other than trolling.

NP. This seems to be latest bandwagon for the wealthy:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/04/01/opinion/ivf-gene-selection-fertility.html?unlocked_article_code=1.FU8.Pn-E.gU7a6PzjK1_k&smid=url-share

Did you actually read the article you posted? No one is claiming to screen embryos for IQ. One company has said they are looking at genetic factors that could cause intellectual disabilities but that’s not the same thing, and that is just what they’re claiming to do. there’s no evidence in the form of peer reviewed scientific research for any of this.

You didn’t read the article closely enough. A company named Helioplex is offering it and Orchid might be offering the service as well.

Oh wow-a company called Orchid that no one has ever heard of might be offering this service-how exciting! Where’s the evidence that these services will do what is promised? Do you believe every claim a company makes? If so, I have a bridge to sell you from my own company…

You didn’t read the research papers I posted earlier. There is no fundamental law or rule that prevents polygenic selection from being feasible. Farmers have already been using polygenic scores for genetic selection in other mammals for agricultural purposes for 10+ years. Almost every behavioral and cognitive trait has a genetic component and therefore these traits can be selected for as long as the genetic data is good enough. If you are morally opposed to genetic selection and don’t want to do it, that’s fine. However, the reality is that this technology is already. and it is only going to become more effective over time. There are thousands of peer reviewed research papers on polygenic scores for a wide variety of traits.

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Anonymous wrote:Op get a life and stop trolling. Do share the “scientific method” available to assess the IQ of a fetus.

There are companies that run polygenic scores for IQ on embryo DNA data. A few people have already done this and I’m one of these people. This practice is not common yet, but will likely become more common over time. This is a serious question and I’m asking for answers on what age it’s appropriate to tell the kids about it.

Snake oil. Fools and their money…….

It’s not snake oil, it’s a weighted coin flip. Better than just letting things be completely random and hoping for the best. Polygenic selection has already been validated in other species and farmers have been using it for over a decade.

Farmers have been selecting animal embryos based on IQ for over a decade?

Personally, I'd be embarrassed to tell my children that their parents were this gullible and/or desperate.

They have been selecting for other characteristics (eg milk production, muscle mass, etc, but the genetic architecture for polygenic traits is mostly additive. So you just need the SNP hits to tag the general area where causal variants are located to create polygenic scores that effectively select for traits.

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the pull to share this.

I mean if it is the result of a genetic condition that impacts fertility and your children encounter or are expected to encounter it as an adult, sure. But garden variety, non-heridetary trouble conveiving seems not important to share with children (child or adult) - you don't share that they were conveived in a bed or in a car or in a petri dish, right? It's uncomfortable and unnecessary, but up to you, I guess.

As for the IQ screening part: do not share. This could really backfire on you if your kids are hurt or offended, and if you have more kids with the lower ranked embryos, you'll have opened a pandora's box that is really hurtful and controversial. Do NOT share this. It is dangerous ammunition that will be out of your hands once you do.

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Anonymous wrote:Op get a life and stop trolling. Do share the “scientific method” available to assess the IQ of a fetus.

There are companies that run polygenic scores for IQ on embryo DNA data. A few people have already done this and I’m one of these people. This practice is not common yet, but will likely become more common over time. This is a serious question and I’m asking for answers on what age it’s appropriate to tell the kids about it.

Snake oil. Fools and their money…….

It’s not snake oil, it’s a weighted coin flip. Better than just letting things be completely random and hoping for the best. Polygenic selection has already been validated in other species and farmers have been using it for over a decade.

Farmers have been selecting animal embryos based on IQ for over a decade?

Personally, I'd be embarrassed to tell my children that their parents were this gullible and/or desperate.

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Anonymous wrote:Op get a life and stop trolling. Do share the “scientific method” available to assess the IQ of a fetus.

There are companies that run polygenic scores for IQ on embryo DNA data. A few people have already done this and I’m one of these people. This practice is not common yet, but will likely become more common over time. This is a serious question and I’m asking for answers on what age it’s appropriate to tell the kids about it.

Snake oil. Fools and their money…….

It’s not snake oil, it’s a weighted coin flip. Better than just letting things be completely random and hoping for the best. Polygenic selection has already been validated in other species and farmers have been using it for over a decade.