Anonymous
05/05/2025 15:12
Subject: Re:Do you want Texas's school voucher program in DC or DMV?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This only really benefits poor people.
The rich already send their kids to private school; they have no need for vouchers.
This harms poor people. And middle class people too
Most people, even in the DMV, do not send their children to private school.
WRONG. It helps poor people.
Vouchers allow poor people to partially or fully afford private schools they otherwise could never afford.
Nonsense. Poor people, even most of middle class with more than one child, can't afford private schools even with vouchers.
Anonymous
05/05/2025 14:55
Subject: Do you want Texas's school voucher program in DC or DMV?
Its sole purpose is to benefit Christian schools. If they could find a way to eliminate Muslim schools they would.
Anonymous
05/05/2025 12:53
Subject: Do you want Texas's school voucher program in DC or DMV?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I see no reason we shouldn’t give these programs a try in this area.
Why not?
+1.
These programs are entirely voluntary; no one is forced to use a voucher if they don’t want to.
Shouldn’t parents be offered a choice?
Of course parents should. It’s the absolute worst when parents who send their kids to private school oppose vouchers. The public schools aren’t good enough for their kids, but are good enough for the poors! Gross.
Our kids’ school in Indiana has a high percentage of voucher students and is absolutely phenomenal. The public’s are horrible.
Does your school serve students with special needs? Do any of the students using vouchers have special needs?
Anonymous
05/05/2025 12:50
Subject: Do you want Texas's school voucher program in DC or DMV?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have friends who lived in a state (not TX) with vouchers that had a strict income cut-off. They said it made their private more economically diverse than it otherwise would have been.
This is a well-established and supported fact. It’s really ironic how people are so opposed to greater diversity in school.
Anecdote isn't data. Bring data:
https://www.epi.org/publication/vouchers-harm-public-schools/
Students in Louisiana’s Scholarship voucher program experienced declining achievement in both language arts and mathematics during their first two years in the program (Mills and Wolf 2023). Similarly, Waddington and Berends (2018) found that voucher students in the Indiana Choice Scholarship voucher program experienced declining achievement in mathematics one year after attending private school. Under the Ed Choice Program in Ohio, voucher students who previously attended high-performing public schools performed worse than they would have had they remained in public school (Figlio and Karbownick 2016).
^ more inconvenient facts for MAGA idiots to ignore.
Anonymous
05/05/2025 12:49
Subject: Re:Do you want Texas's school voucher program in DC or DMV?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This only really benefits poor people.
The rich already send their kids to private school; they have no need for vouchers.
This harms poor people. And middle class people too
Most people, even in the DMV, do not send their children to private school.
WRONG. It helps poor people.
Vouchers allow poor people to partially or fully afford private schools they otherwise could never afford.
You know they've studied this right? Yelling that it helps poor people doesn't make it so.
https://www.edweek.org/policy-politics/most-students-getting-new-school-choice-funds-arent-ditching-public-schools/2023/10
"The gap is even wider in Florida, where 69 percent of roughly 122,000 new applicants to the state’s newly expanded, universal education savings account programs were already in private schools prior to applying, including some students who were taking advantage of a different, narrower state-supported school choice program. Another 18 percent are children entering the K-12 system for the first time as kindergarteners,"
MAGA doesn’t care about facts.
Fact: vouchers suck.
Anonymous
05/05/2025 12:48
Subject: Do you want Texas's school voucher program in DC or DMV?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No, they've repeatedly shown this just ends up benefitting people who were already paying for private school so it's just a transfer of wealth to those who already had money.
In Texas it will likely mainly benefit homeschool coops (current and future) who want to be paid to teach Christian-based learning. Not sure how common those are in the DMV.
And since they don't require the participating schools to teach the state standards, special education regulations, or the state testing then I would assume most private schools would participate so yes, the wealthier will get subsidized private education. But 10k is not enough for 'regular' people to attend most privates except maybe Catholics. The cost of attendance will probably go up more anyway.
This explains it very well.
https://www.texastribune.org/2025/05/03/texas-school-vouchers-greg-abbott-signs/
Exactly
Anonymous
05/05/2025 12:47
Subject: Do you want Texas's school voucher program in DC or DMV?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If schools accepts vouchers then they can't kick out students and need to provide IEP etc services. Non public schools choose their students. So the ones that need the most help are then back in underfunded public schools.
Public schools aren’t underfunded, they just use the money badly. Take computers out of schools and actually try teaching kids, for one.
VA schools are absolutely underfunded.
Anonymous
05/05/2025 12:46
Subject: Do you want Texas's school voucher program in DC or DMV?
Anonymous wrote:I see no reason we shouldn’t give these programs a try in this area.
Why not?
Because they defund the public schools. They don’t benefit the community. Only wealthy people who already have kids in private school.
Anonymous
05/05/2025 12:46
Subject: Do you want Texas's school voucher program in DC or DMV?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I see no reason we shouldn’t give these programs a try in this area.
Why not?
+1.
These programs are entirely voluntary; no one is forced to use a voucher if they don’t want to.
Shouldn’t parents be offered a choice?
Of course parents should. It’s the absolute worst when parents who send their kids to private school oppose vouchers. The public schools aren’t good enough for their kids, but are good enough for the poors! Gross.
Our kids’ school in Indiana has a high percentage of voucher students and is absolutely phenomenal. The public’s are horrible.
So what problems are the vouchers solving? They are not improving the public schools. You don't care about those kids - but you should. When they grow up, they will be your kids' peers.
Anonymous
05/05/2025 12:45
Subject: Do you want Texas's school voucher program in DC or DMV?
Anonymous wrote:If schools accepts vouchers then they can't kick out students and need to provide IEP etc services. Non public schools choose their students. So the ones that need the most help are then back in underfunded public schools.
Public schools aren’t underfunded, they just use the money badly. Take computers out of schools and actually try teaching kids, for one.
Anonymous
05/05/2025 12:44
Subject: Do you want Texas's school voucher program in DC or DMV?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I see no reason we shouldn’t give these programs a try in this area.
Why not?
+1.
These programs are entirely voluntary; no one is forced to use a voucher if they don’t want to.
Shouldn’t parents be offered a choice?
This isn't giving parents a choice. It's giving private schools a choice of more students and $. They can not admit students that down work for them or don't pass their requirements. Public school funds are required to educate everyone.
Anonymous
05/05/2025 12:44
Subject: Do you want Texas's school voucher program in DC or DMV?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hells no.
so persuasive
As compared to the Republicans lies?
Anonymous
05/05/2025 12:43
Subject: Do you want Texas's school voucher program in DC or DMV?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I see no reason we shouldn’t give these programs a try in this area.
Why not?
+1.
These programs are entirely voluntary; no one is forced to use a voucher if they don’t want to.
Shouldn’t parents be offered a choice?
Of course parents should. It’s the absolute worst when parents who send their kids to private school oppose vouchers. The public schools aren’t good enough for their kids, but are good enough for the poors! Gross.
Our kids’ school in Indiana has a high percentage of voucher students and is absolutely phenomenal. The public’s are horrible.
Anonymous
05/05/2025 12:42
Subject: Do you want Texas's school voucher program in DC or DMV?
If schools accepts vouchers then they can't kick out students and need to provide IEP etc services. Non public schools choose their students. So the ones that need the most help are then back in underfunded public schools.
Anonymous
05/05/2025 12:41
Subject: Do you want Texas's school voucher program in DC or DMV?
Anonymous wrote:Absolutely not - parent with a kid that has a 504 and would be discriminated against at even the most expensive private schools
And public schools would have even less money to support SPED.
Defunding our public schools to subsidize tuition for wealthy families only hurts our community.
No vouchers.