Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We've had Vandy grads absolutely bomb on interviews and in work product at our firm.

And the main reason is they are very intellectually uncurious and do not go 'above and beyond'.

This is not an issue we have from nescacs or even seven sisters schools where kids make up for anything with their earnestness.

I'm not sure how exactly vandy has a sub 5% acceptance rate.

(New poster to this thread.)

The above quoted post is total bs neither well written or creative. Love the childish term "uncurious". Cleary written by a poorly educated youngster with no real world experience.

Dp, but this is not a good look.

Please translate your brief comment as I do not understand what you intended to convey. Thanks.

You sound like an a$$. Is that more clear?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of insecure Vanderbilt boosters on this thread: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12535579/Vanderbilt-Universitys-chancellor-whines-email-students-58-000-year-college-drops-News-rankings-private-students-mock-schools-rich-privilege.html

Vanderbilt is weird. My kid was really considering it. Agree that it's a fun social "gameday" darty vibe. Lots of parties. And that is definitely appealing in today's T20 college landscape.
But zero - no - depth. There is no intellectual curiosity. No, "wow, that's fascinating, let me Google this or talk to the lecturer", with professors, lectures, with anything.
Kid sat in on a class. Most of the class was sleeping. Do your diligence.
My kid turned the spot down.

It’s fundamentally a southern issue

A random nescac like Wesleyan or lac like Haverford will have the above in far greater quantity than even duke.

And if duke doesn’t have that, vandy will never have that

The south still has a plantation mentality.

The physical world and material culture is what drives people in that part of the world for centuries. There is no concept of mind

Vandy is hot and fun great connections nobody outside of liberal snobs has heard of Williams.

Visit both in March and then decide.

Anonymous wrote:We've had Vandy grads absolutely bomb on interviews and in work product at our firm.

And the main reason is they are very intellectually uncurious and do not go 'above and beyond'.

This is not an issue we have from nescacs or even seven sisters schools where kids make up for anything with their earnestness.

I'm not sure how exactly vandy has a sub 5% acceptance rate.

I suspect this is an LAC vs. pre-professional national university issue. Certainly you can understand that 18 year olds self-select themselves into one or the other. They were largely poised from the outset to prioritize Pondering the Unanswerable Questions vs. making bank. Yes, there is overlap (DS is such a person) but the kind of male who targets NU, Penn, Dartmouth, Vandy, Cornell and their ilk is not interchangeable with the type of male who is Midd or bust.

The overlap young man is likely to be an athlete with NE ties who picks a sporty NESCAC with the longtime goal of following Dad to Wall st.

I mentor post-bacs from NU, Penn, JHU, Rice and Vandy currently and while they put up amazing CVs they are not generally open-ended thinkers as a cohort. But everyone would still label them accomplished and smart (or they wouldn’t have been selected for our position)

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of insecure Vanderbilt boosters on this thread: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12535579/Vanderbilt-Universitys-chancellor-whines-email-students-58-000-year-college-drops-News-rankings-private-students-mock-schools-rich-privilege.html

Vanderbilt is weird. My kid was really considering it. Agree that it's a fun social "gameday" darty vibe. Lots of parties. And that is definitely appealing in today's T20 college landscape.
But zero - no - depth. There is no intellectual curiosity. No, "wow, that's fascinating, let me Google this or talk to the lecturer", with professors, lectures, with anything.
Kid sat in on a class. Most of the class was sleeping. Do your diligence.
My kid turned the spot down.

If "darty" means Dartmouth, I don't think Dartmouth and Vanderbilt are similar. Dartmouth has more in common with Williams.

Darty = day partay

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of insecure Vanderbilt boosters on this thread: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12535579/Vanderbilt-Universitys-chancellor-whines-email-students-58-000-year-college-drops-News-rankings-private-students-mock-schools-rich-privilege.html

Vanderbilt is weird. My kid was really considering it. Agree that it's a fun social "gameday" darty vibe. Lots of parties. And that is definitely appealing in today's T20 college landscape.
But zero - no - depth. There is no intellectual curiosity. No, "wow, that's fascinating, let me Google this or talk to the lecturer", with professors, lectures, with anything.
Kid sat in on a class. Most of the class was sleeping. Do your diligence.
My kid turned the spot down.

If "darty" means Dartmouth, I don't think Dartmouth and Vanderbilt are similar. Dartmouth has more in common with Williams.

Anonymous wrote:A lot of insecure Vanderbilt boosters on this thread: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12535579/Vanderbilt-Universitys-chancellor-whines-email-students-58-000-year-college-drops-News-rankings-private-students-mock-schools-rich-privilege.html

Vanderbilt is weird. My kid was really considering it. Agree that it's a fun social "gameday" darty vibe. Lots of parties. And that is definitely appealing in today's T20 college landscape.
But zero - no - depth. There is no intellectual curiosity. No, "wow, that's fascinating, let me Google this or talk to the lecturer", with professors, lectures, with anything.
Kid sat in on a class. Most of the class was sleeping. Do your diligence.
My kid turned the spot down.

Williams is not really well known outside New England and Vanderbilt is a name known nationally and internationally.

A lot of insecure Vanderbilt boosters on this thread: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12535579/Vanderbilt-Universitys-chancellor-whines-email-students-58-000-year-college-drops-News-rankings-private-students-mock-schools-rich-privilege.html

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We've had Vandy grads absolutely bomb on interviews and in work product at our firm.

And the main reason is they are very intellectually uncurious and do not go 'above and beyond'.

This is not an issue we have from nescacs or even seven sisters schools where kids make up for anything with their earnestness.

I'm not sure how exactly vandy has a sub 5% acceptance rate.

(New poster to this thread.)

The above quoted post is total bs neither well written or creative. Love the childish term "uncurious". Cleary written by a poorly educated youngster with no real world experience.

Dp, but this is not a good look.

Please translate your brief comment as I do not understand what you intended to convey. Thanks.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We've had Vandy grads absolutely bomb on interviews and in work product at our firm.

And the main reason is they are very intellectually uncurious and do not go 'above and beyond'.

This is not an issue we have from nescacs or even seven sisters schools where kids make up for anything with their earnestness.

I'm not sure how exactly vandy has a sub 5% acceptance rate.

(New poster to this thread.)

The above quoted post is total bs neither well written or creative. Love the childish term "uncurious". Cleary written by a poorly educated youngster with no real world experience.

Dp, but this is not a good look.

Anonymous wrote:DC lucky to have these two choices and stumped - says he could see himself happy at either - question is in terms of outcomes, both do very well, but seems like Vandy more with MBB (two of 3 firm founders from Vandy) and Williams more IB / Wall street pipeline. Generalizations for sure, but any thoughts - and I know Williams is isolated lol! and he likes nature just fine

Are you conflating Williams College with Bucknell University when you refer to "Wall Street pipeline" ?

In terms of outcomes, Williams College probably places better in the Northeast region of the US.

Otherwise, one is small, rural, isolated, and dominated by male athletes. The smallness becomes real and apparent after just one semester. Williams College is a reasonable choice for an intelligent D3 athlete. Beautiful location, but small, isolated community.

Vanderbilt University offers a wider array of options both socially and academically.

Both are outstanding academically.

To the poster who asserted that Williams College is preferred in law or medicine, you have no knowledge of either profession or with respect to law schools or medical schools. Legal & medical professions focus on performance in elite law schools or medical schools, not on one's undergraduate institution. Law schools want a high LSAT score and a high undergraduate GPA from any accredited college or university. Medical schools want a high GPA, high MCAT score, and a solid interview regardless of undergraduate school attended.

Between the two schools, if one learns toward the smaller option (Williams College), be sure to check out courses and majors as well as how frequently any desired courses are offered. I attended an LAC larger than Williams College and was severely limited by the majors and courses offered.

Vanderbilt University has more options and opportunities socially and academically, yet I do understand the attraction of a small, elite school populated by overachievers located in a remote, but beautiful, area. When I was young--many decades ago--I would have selected Williams College, but, as one with substantial experience, I would choose Vanderbilt University. However, I am not you.

Anonymous wrote:We've had Vandy grads absolutely bomb on interviews and in work product at our firm.

And the main reason is they are very intellectually uncurious and do not go 'above and beyond'.

This is not an issue we have from nescacs or even seven sisters schools where kids make up for anything with their earnestness.

I'm not sure how exactly vandy has a sub 5% acceptance rate.

(New poster to this thread.)

The above quoted post is total bs neither well written or creative. Love the childish term "uncurious". Cleary written by a poorly educated youngster with no real world experience.

Anonymous wrote:We've had Vandy grads absolutely bomb on interviews and in work product at our firm.

And the main reason is they are very intellectually uncurious and do not go 'above and beyond'.

This is not an issue we have from nescacs or even seven sisters schools where kids make up for anything with their earnestness.

I'm not sure how exactly vandy has a sub 5% acceptance rate.

i ask you again sir, what industry!