Anonymous
Post 04/24/2025 21:01     Subject: Re:Tell me about UNC
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kid got in OOS last year. The fact that it is an avg school for in state kids and only really competitive for OOS kids was a turn off. Kid turned it down.


it is not for "average" in state kids but it is slightly less competitive in state for North Carolinians than UVA is vor Virginians, based on SAT pre TO and all of that. 5-6 students get in each year from our DMV private, less than half of them get into ivy/T10 though based on naviance they all try for ivy. Going to UNC OOS puts them in a mix of peers that is less academic than in state UVA, and for many who are ivy-level but missed out on getting in, they will be fairly significantly above average at UNC--about top 15%-- and may struggle to fit in as well as they would at an ivy or similar. Plus with knowledge of current students there is a culture of cheating and skipping class that goes well beyond more academic schools. That is all separate from the very prominent Southern Vibe that most DMV students are completely unaccustomed to. It was a turnoff for my kid too. At Berkeley, BioEngineering; got WL at ivies but very happy where they are and the UCB Engineers are much more academic than UNC stem kids--they sort of have a combo BME program but admitted days revealed the lack of fit/lack of research opportunities/lack of serious students.


If a kid can’t fit in with other kids that have slightly lower academic stats, that’s a problem with the kid’s social skills, not the stats.

Just wait until he hits the workplace.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2025 21:01     Subject: Tell me about UNC
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NP It’s insufferable because that is why everyone taunts and makes fun of UVA, they act pompous. It’s a fine school, but it’s no ain’t or Ivy Plus. It’s embarrassing for a public school to be so arrogant.


I don’t have a kid at uva nor did a kid of mine apply to uva…but as a fcps family…it isn’t made up that uva’s in state students have high stats overall (save for maybe rural ones) AND UNC CH is not as hard to get into, in state.



Facts. No kid at either but never would pay OOS for UNC when UVA is better and instate rates.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2025 21:00     Subject: Re:Tell me about UNC
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kid got in OOS last year. The fact that it is an avg school for in state kids and only really competitive for OOS kids was a turn off. Kid turned it down.


it is not for "average" in state kids but it is slightly less competitive in state for North Carolinians than UVA is vor Virginians, based on SAT pre TO and all of that. 5-6 students get in each year from our DMV private, less than half of them get into ivy/T10 though based on naviance they all try for ivy. Going to UNC OOS puts them in a mix of peers that is less academic than in state UVA, and for many who are ivy-level but missed out on getting in, they will be fairly significantly above average at UNC--about top 15%-- and may struggle to fit in as well as they would at an ivy or similar. Plus with knowledge of current students there is a culture of cheating and skipping class that goes well beyond more academic schools. That is all separate from the very prominent Southern Vibe that most DMV students are completely unaccustomed to. It was a turnoff for my kid too. At Berkeley, BioEngineering; got WL at ivies but very happy where they are and the UCB Engineers are much more academic than UNC stem kids--they sort of have a combo BME program but admitted days revealed the lack of fit/lack of research opportunities/lack of serious students.


“and may struggle to fit in as well as they would at an ivy or similar.”

This is quite an assumption. As the parent of a student deciding between UNC honors and HYP, I assure you that he’d fit in well at both.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2025 20:56     Subject: Tell me about UNC
Anonymous wrote:It’s simple math, people. Only 15 percent of the undergraduate population is out of state, yet average standardized test scores for the school are very high. The average wouldn’t be that high if 85 percent of the class were dummies.

Also, the in state admit rate last year was only 38 percent. That’s on par with William &
Mary.


pre-TO the SAT middle 50% was 1300-1460. Not "average" but certainly not "high" or impressive. The median is lower than many top public magnets and private high schools. College is supposed to be a challenge, even UVA and WM have higher ranges
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2025 20:50     Subject: Re:Tell me about UNC
Anonymous wrote:My kid got in OOS last year. The fact that it is an avg school for in state kids and only really competitive for OOS kids was a turn off. Kid turned it down.


it is not for "average" in state kids but it is slightly less competitive in state for North Carolinians than UVA is vor Virginians, based on SAT pre TO and all of that. 5-6 students get in each year from our DMV private, less than half of them get into ivy/T10 though based on naviance they all try for ivy. Going to UNC OOS puts them in a mix of peers that is less academic than in state UVA, and for many who are ivy-level but missed out on getting in, they will be fairly significantly above average at UNC--about top 15%-- and may struggle to fit in as well as they would at an ivy or similar. Plus with knowledge of current students there is a culture of cheating and skipping class that goes well beyond more academic schools. That is all separate from the very prominent Southern Vibe that most DMV students are completely unaccustomed to. It was a turnoff for my kid too. At Berkeley, BioEngineering; got WL at ivies but very happy where they are and the UCB Engineers are much more academic than UNC stem kids--they sort of have a combo BME program but admitted days revealed the lack of fit/lack of research opportunities/lack of serious students.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2025 20:32     Subject: Tell me about UNC
Anonymous wrote:It’s simple math, people. Only 15 percent of the undergraduate population is out of state, yet average standardized test scores for the school are very high. The average wouldn’t be that high if 85 percent of the class were dummies.

Also, the in state admit rate last year was only 38 percent. That’s on par with William &
Mary.


+1. You can see from the CDS that the reported scores (about half of the class) are nearly identical. ACT scores are slightly lower for UNC but it isn’t a particularly meaningful difference.

Refusing to go there because you think the in-state kids’ stats are so much lower is simply ignorance.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2025 20:25     Subject: Tell me about UNC
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NP It’s insufferable because that is why everyone taunts and makes fun of UVA, they act pompous. It’s a fine school, but it’s no ain’t or Ivy Plus. It’s embarrassing for a public school to be so arrogant.


I don’t have a kid at uva nor did a kid of mine apply to uva…but as a fcps family…it isn’t made up that uva’s in state students have high stats overall (save for maybe rural ones) AND UNC CH is not as hard to get into, in state.



The average SAT score at UNC is the same as UVA.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2025 20:22     Subject: Tell me about UNC
It’s simple math, people. Only 15 percent of the undergraduate population is out of state, yet average standardized test scores for the school are very high. The average wouldn’t be that high if 85 percent of the class were dummies.

Also, the in state admit rate last year was only 38 percent. That’s on par with William &
Mary.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2025 19:59     Subject: Tell me about UNC
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NP It’s insufferable because that is why everyone taunts and makes fun of UVA, they act pompous. It’s a fine school, but it’s no ain’t or Ivy Plus. It’s embarrassing for a public school to be so arrogant.


I don’t have a kid at uva nor did a kid of mine apply to uva…but as a fcps family…it isn’t made up that uva’s in state students have high stats overall (save for maybe rural ones) AND UNC CH is not as hard to get into, in state.



Let me guess, you're the same miserable poster from the other Carolina thread that made wild accusations that in state kids in NC were much less intelligent than in state UVA kids, that UVA has better job placement, better professors, etc and when pressed the only data you could give was based on the average ACT score. That was it.

Stop hijacking UNC threads. Just stop. You have nothing of value or with any support other than your own personal opinion re schools that you claim are facts and that you claim you have no connection to (but you must to be so worked up about it and keep posting on all the Carolina threads).

Start your own thread about this topic. OP asked about attending the school, not your weird angst against Carolina (no one calls it UNC CH by the way).
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2025 19:57     Subject: Tell me about UNC
Anonymous wrote:This is wild. OP was looking for answers on UNC not a debate on whether in state Carolina kids are better than in state Virginia kids.


She would have known it would come to this if she had searched and read the many other threads on this topic, instead of being a lazy boots and making people post things they have already posted many times before.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2025 19:48     Subject: Tell me about UNC
This is wild. OP was looking for answers on UNC not a debate on whether in state Carolina kids are better than in state Virginia kids.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2025 18:22     Subject: Tell me about UNC
Anonymous wrote:NP It’s insufferable because that is why everyone taunts and makes fun of UVA, they act pompous. It’s a fine school, but it’s no ain’t or Ivy Plus. It’s embarrassing for a public school to be so arrogant.


I don’t have a kid at uva nor did a kid of mine apply to uva…but as a fcps family…it isn’t made up that uva’s in state students have high stats overall (save for maybe rural ones) AND UNC CH is not as hard to get into, in state.

Anonymous
Post 04/24/2025 17:46     Subject: Tell me about UNC
NP It’s insufferable because that is why everyone taunts and makes fun of UVA, they act pompous. It’s a fine school, but it’s no ain’t or Ivy Plus. It’s embarrassing for a public school to be so arrogant.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2025 17:45     Subject: Re:Tell me about UNC
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kid got in OOS last year. The fact that it is an avg school for in state kids and only really competitive for OOS kids was a turn off. Kid turned it down.


Mine didn't get in but was accepted OOS to UVA (attending).

UNC is a great school (from what I hear), but I wondered about attending a school where you're likely more qualified than most of your in-state peers due to their policy of favoring in-state applicants.


Did you not have the same concerns regarding UVA? Your theory makes zero sense re UNC but not UVA.


NP: the difference is UVA also is required to take in state kids BUT those kids are very high stat kids.


Some of you are truly insufferable. This would be my evidence for picking UNC over UVA. I actually think most regions of country view at as more prestigious too.


A. It’s true. UVA in state admits are high stats and that’s not at the same level as UNC’s in state admits.

B. Why is that insufferable?


Back that up please, I’m open.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2025 17:44     Subject: Re:Tell me about UNC
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kid got in OOS last year. The fact that it is an avg school for in state kids and only really competitive for OOS kids was a turn off. Kid turned it down.


Mine didn't get in but was accepted OOS to UVA (attending).

UNC is a great school (from what I hear), but I wondered about attending a school where you're likely more qualified than most of your in-state peers due to their policy of favoring in-state applicants.


Did you not have the same concerns regarding UVA? Your theory makes zero sense re UNC but not UVA.


NP: the difference is UVA also is required to take in state kids BUT those kids are very high stat kids.


Some of you are truly insufferable. This would be my evidence for picking UNC over UVA. I actually think most regions of country view at as more prestigious too.


A. It’s true. UVA in state admits are high stats and that’s not at the same level as UNC’s in state admits.

B. Why is that insufferable?