Anonymous
04/23/2025 20:52
Subject: Re:Are more farmers, small business owners, cargo and construction trade people turning on Trump?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Many people believe that the tariffs will work. Europe, China, Canada, Japan and Mexico will beg the US for forgiveness, tear down all of their tariff and non-tariff barriers, de-industrailize themselves, and all manufacturing will move to the US in record time. I do believe that many Trump supporters think this is how the story will play out.
Well, that's not a very informed position.
This is quite literally the reason we have this clown car administration again. So many uninformed voters who have doubled down on being uninformed because the alternative is to be an east coast elite I guess? So they continue to vote against their own interests and we all suffer.
There is absolutely no good out come to an artificial trade war, nor is their a good out come to blindly and arbitrarily cutting fed jobs and yet they still support this dumpster fire. It’s getting old living at the whim of people who refuse to educate/inform themselves.
Really? NO good can come from cutting jobs in the federal bureaucracy? If only the voters were better INFORMED they would agree? How’d the Department of Education do over the last half century with trillions of dollars spent? Any improvement in educational outcomes? No? Are you SURE we can’t cut any of those jobs? Lol.
The Dept. of Education does not manage public schools. Your local government/school board does that. Schools are state and locally funded. What the Dept. of Education does is to make sure that people's civil rights with respect to education are ensured. So they provide a lot of the funding for special education services and services for students with disabilities. They also fund ESOL classes for immigrants. These programs are done through grants. They also have the FAFSA and grants to low income college students. These are civil rights related functions. Again, education (as in books, schools, teachers, curriculum, etc.) is a local and state function. Many students with disabilities were not properly served in schools before civil rights legislation and enforcement in instructional plans for them. You might not like that those kids get served, but lots of parents are not going to be happy.
Anonymous
04/23/2025 20:34
Subject: Re:Are more farmers, small business owners, cargo and construction trade people turning on Trump?
For farmers the tragedy is that Trump caused the same situation in 2020 and they still voted for him 
. Soybean farmers are getting destroyed now as China is buying from Brazil, they are talking of bailouts again.
. Soybean farmers are getting destroyed now as China is buying from Brazil, they are talking of bailouts again.
Anonymous
04/23/2025 20:23
Subject: Re:Are more farmers, small business owners, cargo and construction trade people turning on Trump?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Many people believe that the tariffs will work. Europe, China, Canada, Japan and Mexico will beg the US for forgiveness, tear down all of their tariff and non-tariff barriers, de-industrailize themselves, and all manufacturing will move to the US in record time. I do believe that many Trump supporters think this is how the story will play out.
Well, that's not a very informed position.
This is quite literally the reason we have this clown car administration again. So many uninformed voters who have doubled down on being uninformed because the alternative is to be an east coast elite I guess? So they continue to vote against their own interests and we all suffer.
There is absolutely no good out come to an artificial trade war, nor is their a good out come to blindly and arbitrarily cutting fed jobs and yet they still support this dumpster fire. It’s getting old living at the whim of people who refuse to educate/inform themselves.
Really? NO good can come from cutting jobs in the federal bureaucracy? If only the voters were better INFORMED they would agree? How’d the Department of Education do over the last half century with trillions of dollars spent? Any improvement in educational outcomes? No? Are you SURE we can’t cut any of those jobs? Lol.
What does the Dept of Education spend money on? Tell us this and then you will answer your own question.
It’s not the Dept of Education that is falling short.
Anonymous
04/23/2025 18:19
Subject: Are more farmers, small business owners, cargo and construction trade people turning on Trump?
White farmers wont turn on him because their racial resentments didn’t magically go away. Even though he’s f#cking them without lube; they are gluttons for punishment and silly lil masochists.
They will lose their farms to Saudi and Chinese investment funds while clinging to their MAGA hats and those dumb signs on the edge of their properties.
They will lose their farms to Saudi and Chinese investment funds while clinging to their MAGA hats and those dumb signs on the edge of their properties.
Anonymous
04/23/2025 18:14
Subject: Are more farmers, small business owners, cargo and construction trade people turning on Trump?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My cousin is going out of business because of the tariffs.
She had a small business she started out of her garage in 2022. It quickly boomed and she outgrew her space. She rented a warehouse and has been based out of there for a few years now. Doing great sales wise.
Right now, her operations are on pause, but she's told us in the family that unless there's a total tariff reversal, she'll be permanently closing.
Her tariff bill increased from around $10k to almost $200k.
-So that'll be her and her partner out of jobs.
-The warehouse landlord out a tenant because their 3-year lease is up in July and she's given notice that she can't renew. This location was built in late 2019 and sat empty until she came long. The other units in the park are also empty.
-Staff will be out of jobs.
MAKING AMERICA GREAT!
Sorry, but no. Nothing was raised that amount. She’s either buying more product, or lying. You choose.
Or, occam's razor, you have no idea because you aren't in business and are not paying attention to details.
I own a business and I am well aware of the Tariff rates. Nothing went up 2000 percent, not even close.
You are thinking about tariffs simplistically. Products are tariffed when they go through customs. Some products involve goods traveling from country to country before they are a finished product. For example, a business can import an intermediary aluminum product from China, use it in a different product, send it to another country for finishing, and then return it to the U.S. The product will be tariffed again. Also, the de minimis loophole was closed, so all shipments under $800 are now subject to 145% tariffs. 86 packages worth $800 each that were tariff free, now cost $100k in tariffs.
Anonymous
04/23/2025 17:42
Subject: Are more farmers, small business owners, cargo and construction trade people turning on Trump?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Farmers will get bailed out like always.
I don't think so.
Trump doesn’t care about farmers. He doesn’t eat crops.
This is actually true. Not sure what McDs pink slime is, but whole, unprocessed MAHA food it is not.