Anonymous
Post 04/22/2025 21:26     Subject: Trump Says Trials for Migrants "Not Possible"

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:POTUS is correct on this one.


He does this to an “illegal alien” (but does have to show he’s illegal, because no due process)
So, he does it to someone here legally (who can’t prove they are here legally)
So, he does it to you and says you are here illegally (and you have not opportunity to prove you are a citizen)


We can take Trumps word for the fact everyone is here illegally and deportable. Despite the fact he and his appointees can’t keep reporters off chats that include war plans or keep track of a purse with $3000, a PIV card and a passport. But, let’s go out on a limb here and say he occasionally makes mistakes. Some of those mistakes are legal permanent residents. Some are US citizens. None of them get the chance to challenge anything before they are put on a plane and dumped in CECOT. And when the inevitable mistake happens, as it already has, he says “opppsss. Still leaving them there”.

That’s why you need due process. To prevent US citizens from being dumped into El Salvadoran he11holes with no recourse.

Due process I’d your recourse.

Trump is not right. And if he can’t process the immigrants he wants to deport, he should stop firing immigration judges.


Democrats don't deserve to lecture anyone on what is right. Look at this mess after all.


Indeed. Trump has absolutely destroyed the economy and Americas standing in the world— in 100 days. It is, indeed, a mess.

PS— can’t ignore the Constitution to own the libs. Sorry, not sorry.


I think the argument many conservatives make is that Biden ignored the law by letting them into the country, and in the process ignoring the Constitution ("he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed" Const. Art. II, Sec. 3). So why should they get full Due Process rights to stay when they had no legal right to be here in the first place? The Constitution guarantees certain rights, such as the right to vote and the right to keep and bear arms - so if illegal aliens have Constitutional rights to Due Process, by logical extension, don't they have those as well?
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2025 21:16     Subject: Trump Says Trials for Migrants "Not Possible"

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:POTUS is correct on this one.


He does this to an “illegal alien” (but does have to show he’s illegal, because no due process)
So, he does it to someone here legally (who can’t prove they are here legally)
So, he does it to you and says you are here illegally (and you have not opportunity to prove you are a citizen)


We can take Trumps word for the fact everyone is here illegally and deportable. Despite the fact he and his appointees can’t keep reporters off chats that include war plans or keep track of a purse with $3000, a PIV card and a passport. But, let’s go out on a limb here and say he occasionally makes mistakes. Some of those mistakes are legal permanent residents. Some are US citizens. None of them get the chance to challenge anything before they are put on a plane and dumped in CECOT. And when the inevitable mistake happens, as it already has, he says “opppsss. Still leaving them there”.

That’s why you need due process. To prevent US citizens from being dumped into El Salvadoran he11holes with no recourse.

Due process I’d your recourse.

Trump is not right. And if he can’t process the immigrants he wants to deport, he should stop firing immigration judges.


Democrats don't deserve to lecture anyone on what is right. Look at this mess after all.


Indeed. Trump has absolutely destroyed the economy and Americas standing in the world— in 100 days. It is, indeed, a mess.

PS— can’t ignore the Constitution to own the libs. Sorry, not sorry.
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2025 20:56     Subject: Trump Says Trials for Migrants "Not Possible"

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:POTUS is correct on this one.


He does this to an “illegal alien” (but does have to show he’s illegal, because no due process)
So, he does it to someone here legally (who can’t prove they are here legally)
So, he does it to you and says you are here illegally (and you have not opportunity to prove you are a citizen)


We can take Trumps word for the fact everyone is here illegally and deportable. Despite the fact he and his appointees can’t keep reporters off chats that include war plans or keep track of a purse with $3000, a PIV card and a passport. But, let’s go out on a limb here and say he occasionally makes mistakes. Some of those mistakes are legal permanent residents. Some are US citizens. None of them get the chance to challenge anything before they are put on a plane and dumped in CECOT. And when the inevitable mistake happens, as it already has, he says “opppsss. Still leaving them there”.

That’s why you need due process. To prevent US citizens from being dumped into El Salvadoran he11holes with no recourse.

Due process I’d your recourse.

Trump is not right. And if he can’t process the immigrants he wants to deport, he should stop firing immigration judges.


Democrats don't deserve to lecture anyone on what is right. Look at this mess after all.
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2025 20:07     Subject: Trump Says Trials for Migrants "Not Possible"

So let me get this straight. Completely remaking the federal government of 2 million plus— easy peasy. Hiring 100 more immigration judges. Absolutely impossible. Is that what Trump’s saying? Can’t he just put Big Balls on it?
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2025 20:02     Subject: Trump Says Trials for Migrants "Not Possible"

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Biden let in more than a million people from Veneuzela, non green card. Some TPS, some parole, some CHNV.



He didn't "let them in" - he followed the US and international law. Processing people claiming asylum takes time. It would take less time if there were more administrative judges available to hear the cases and make designations to grant or deport. "for some reason" Trump opposed having more judges and got the GOP to opposed their own bill authorizing them. If people are here too long, it is because of the GOP, who at least 4 times, thwarted efforts to expand the administrative infrastructure in our country.


Biden could have all these 'refugees' wait in Mexico while they were waiting for a hearing, as Trump did. Instead Biden chose to let them in.
Around half skip their hearings.


DP. Even if you were correct, so what??? You can’t just put them in prison to rot for the rest of their lives without a legal reason!


Why not? Arbiet Macht Frei. Right MAGA?

I swear, when the make the movie about 2025, it’s going to be called “Dumb and Evil”
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2025 19:43     Subject: Trump Says Trials for Migrants "Not Possible"

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Biden let in more than a million people from Veneuzela, non green card. Some TPS, some parole, some CHNV.



He didn't "let them in" - he followed the US and international law. Processing people claiming asylum takes time. It would take less time if there were more administrative judges available to hear the cases and make designations to grant or deport. "for some reason" Trump opposed having more judges and got the GOP to opposed their own bill authorizing them. If people are here too long, it is because of the GOP, who at least 4 times, thwarted efforts to expand the administrative infrastructure in our country.


Biden could have all these 'refugees' wait in Mexico while they were waiting for a hearing, as Trump did. Instead Biden chose to let them in.
Around half skip their hearings.


DP. Even if you were correct, so what??? You can’t just put them in prison to rot for the rest of their lives without a legal reason!
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2025 19:42     Subject: Trump Says Trials for Migrants "Not Possible"

Anonymous wrote:Because we need more than “she’s illegal, trusts me, dude” before we dump someone in El Salvador. On the off chance they are here legally, or are a citizen, they have the right to show someone the documentation proving that.

In the end, it isn’t to protect people here illegally. They are going back— somewhere. It’s to protect you and me and everyone who is here legally from the government making a mistake.


If we were just dumping them in El Salvador it likely wouldn’t be the emergency it is now. We are sending people with NO CONVICTIONS to be held in foreign prisons, because we can’t hold them in our own. Sick.
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2025 19:40     Subject: Trump Says Trials for Migrants "Not Possible"

How typically MAGA. Break the system. Then whine that it’s broken. So clearly ignoring the Constitution is the only option.

Evil Morons.
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2025 19:38     Subject: Trump Says Trials for Migrants "Not Possible"

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:POTUS is correct on this one.


He does this to an “illegal alien” (but does have to show he’s illegal, because no due process)
So, he does it to someone here legally (who can’t prove they are here legally)
So, he does it to you and says you are here illegally (and you have not opportunity to prove you are a citizen)


We can take Trumps word for the fact everyone is here illegally and deportable. Despite the fact he and his appointees can’t keep reporters off chats that include war plans or keep track of a purse with $3000, a PIV card and a passport. But, let’s go out on a limb here and say he occasionally makes mistakes. Some of those mistakes are legal permanent residents. Some are US citizens. None of them get the chance to challenge anything before they are put on a plane and dumped in CECOT. And when the inevitable mistake happens, as it already has, he says “opppsss. Still leaving them there”.

That’s why you need due process. To prevent US citizens from being dumped into El Salvadoran he11holes with no recourse.

Due process I’d your recourse.

Trump is not right. And if he can’t process the immigrants he wants to deport, he should stop firing immigration judges.


A short review of documents is all that is needed. Not a trial and endless appeals.



They aren't even decent enough for that!!


The problem where do we detain everyone until we can do the "short review of documents." They are still coming in at an untenable rate - even if Trump hadn't fired any judges, how do we process (and mostly deport) all of these people without setting them loose into the country and asking them to pinky swear they will appear?


By putting a monitor on them, detaining them or hiring more judges. Again, the Constitution— not option when it inconveniences you.

Also— border crossings? Right now down to 100-300 people a day. (And fewer if you consider family units). If we stop firing immigration judges, that’s very manageable. Do you have any idea how many claim SSA ALJs process (with 10-20 page opinions)?


We have to fire the immigration judges, because they were hired by Biden with the same agenda. Have to get new judges in like Jeff Sessions did.


ALJs are specialized. AND JUDGES ARE NONPARTISAN. I know ALJs. They take that part very, very seriously. I work with them and couldn’t tell you their political leanings. FFS, if you fire them all every 4 years, they never get up to speed, let alone get the competence to manage a caseload and mentor new Judges. And you don’t get to complain about a backlog. Because you created it.
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2025 19:11     Subject: Trump Says Trials for Migrants "Not Possible"

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:POTUS is correct on this one.


He does this to an “illegal alien” (but does have to show he’s illegal, because no due process)
So, he does it to someone here legally (who can’t prove they are here legally)
So, he does it to you and says you are here illegally (and you have not opportunity to prove you are a citizen)


We can take Trumps word for the fact everyone is here illegally and deportable. Despite the fact he and his appointees can’t keep reporters off chats that include war plans or keep track of a purse with $3000, a PIV card and a passport. But, let’s go out on a limb here and say he occasionally makes mistakes. Some of those mistakes are legal permanent residents. Some are US citizens. None of them get the chance to challenge anything before they are put on a plane and dumped in CECOT. And when the inevitable mistake happens, as it already has, he says “opppsss. Still leaving them there”.

That’s why you need due process. To prevent US citizens from being dumped into El Salvadoran he11holes with no recourse.

Due process I’d your recourse.

Trump is not right. And if he can’t process the immigrants he wants to deport, he should stop firing immigration judges.


A short review of documents is all that is needed. Not a trial and endless appeals.



They aren't even decent enough for that!!


The problem where do we detain everyone until we can do the "short review of documents." They are still coming in at an untenable rate - even if Trump hadn't fired any judges, how do we process (and mostly deport) all of these people without setting them loose into the country and asking them to pinky swear they will appear?


By putting a monitor on them, detaining them or hiring more judges. Again, the Constitution— not option when it inconveniences you.

Also— border crossings? Right now down to 100-300 people a day. (And fewer if you consider family units). If we stop firing immigration judges, that’s very manageable. Do you have any idea how many claim SSA ALJs process (with 10-20 page opinions)?


We have to fire the immigration judges, because they were hired by Biden with the same agenda. Have to get new judges in like Jeff Sessions did.
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2025 19:09     Subject: Trump Says Trials for Migrants "Not Possible"

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:POTUS is correct on this one.


He does this to an “illegal alien” (but does have to show he’s illegal, because no due process)
So, he does it to someone here legally (who can’t prove they are here legally)
So, he does it to you and says you are here illegally (and you have not opportunity to prove you are a citizen)


We can take Trumps word for the fact everyone is here illegally and deportable. Despite the fact he and his appointees can’t keep reporters off chats that include war plans or keep track of a purse with $3000, a PIV card and a passport. But, let’s go out on a limb here and say he occasionally makes mistakes. Some of those mistakes are legal permanent residents. Some are US citizens. None of them get the chance to challenge anything before they are put on a plane and dumped in CECOT. And when the inevitable mistake happens, as it already has, he says “opppsss. Still leaving them there”.

That’s why you need due process. To prevent US citizens from being dumped into El Salvadoran he11holes with no recourse.

Due process I’d your recourse.

Trump is not right. And if he can’t process the immigrants he wants to deport, he should stop firing immigration judges.


A short review of documents is all that is needed. Not a trial and endless appeals.



They aren't even decent enough for that!!


The problem where do we detain everyone until we can do the "short review of documents." They are still coming in at an untenable rate - even if Trump hadn't fired any judges, how do we process (and mostly deport) all of these people without setting them loose into the country and asking them to pinky swear they will appear?

They are not coming in at an untenable rate. The backlog is dropping, but unfortunately too high, and a lot of trouble to locate and deport.
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2025 19:07     Subject: Trump Says Trials for Migrants "Not Possible"

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Biden let in more than a million people from Veneuzela, non green card. Some TPS, some parole, some CHNV.



He didn't "let them in" - he followed the US and international law. Processing people claiming asylum takes time. It would take less time if there were more administrative judges available to hear the cases and make designations to grant or deport. "for some reason" Trump opposed having more judges and got the GOP to opposed their own bill authorizing them. If people are here too long, it is because of the GOP, who at least 4 times, thwarted efforts to expand the administrative infrastructure in our country.


Biden could have all these 'refugees' wait in Mexico while they were waiting for a hearing, as Trump did. Instead Biden chose to let them in.
Around half skip their hearings.
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2025 19:02     Subject: Trump Says Trials for Migrants "Not Possible"

About time. Cut the Gordian knot of immigration law.
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2025 18:24     Subject: Trump Says Trials for Migrants "Not Possible"

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:POTUS is correct on this one.


Not according to the plain reading of the US Constitution nor any court cases including the most recent before the US Supreme Court.

On what basis do you make this claim?


Dangling from his a// after the last long bathroom sit.
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2025 18:23     Subject: Trump Says Trials for Migrants "Not Possible"

Anonymous wrote:POTUS is correct on this one.


Not according to the plain reading of the US Constitution nor any court cases including the most recent before the US Supreme Court.

On what basis do you make this claim?