Anonymous
04/21/2025 10:46
Subject: Atheists at the Cathedral on Good Friday
OP, are you a troll?
It is “stained glass” btw.
It is “stained glass” btw.
Anonymous
04/21/2025 10:44
Subject: Atheists at the Cathedral on Good Friday
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:.Anonymous wrote:My God, who cares? Bizarre thing to be thinking or posting about.
So it seems weird to care if people in church believe in god?
Why would you care?
People go to church to praise God, right?
It’s a National Cathedral. It was specifically intended—back to L’Enfant’s original plan for the city—to draw visitors to DC closer to Christianity, and a lot of those visitors are not Christian. Atheists visiting is a feature, not a bug.
I seriously doubt that L'Enfant's plan to build a national cathedral was done in the hope that atheists and non-christians (people of other religions) would convert to Christianity. Never heard that one before. Besides, it's un-American.
I did not say that it was intended to create converts. But it was intended to showcase what was then the normative religious behavior of the American political class—which was Episcopalianism—when Congress chartered it in 1893. (It opened in my lifetime, but it took a VERY long time to build; cathedrals always do.)
I bet most members of congress are still Episcopalian. Such a safe religion and so accepting
Going to see if I can find stats on this but I’m betting that’s no longer true.
Anonymous
04/21/2025 10:42
Subject: Atheists at the Cathedral on Good Friday
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:.Anonymous wrote:My God, who cares? Bizarre thing to be thinking or posting about.
So it seems weird to care if people in church believe in god?
Why would you care?
People go to church to praise God, right?
It’s a National Cathedral. It was specifically intended—back to L’Enfant’s original plan for the city—to draw visitors to DC closer to Christianity, and a lot of those visitors are not Christian. Atheists visiting is a feature, not a bug.
+ literally “a house of prayer for all people.”
- former Episcopalian and NCS alum who wrote a history paper while there that started my path to atheism
Anonymous
04/21/2025 10:41
Subject: Atheists at the Cathedral on Good Friday
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:.Anonymous wrote:My God, who cares? Bizarre thing to be thinking or posting about.
So it seems weird to care if people in church believe in god?
Why would you care?
People go to church to praise God, right?
Maybe you do. Historically, people go to church because to not go to church meant alienation and possible danger in their communities. That is, because of intimidation, control, indoctrination.
Anonymous
04/21/2025 10:37
Subject: Atheists at the Cathedral on Good Friday
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:.Anonymous wrote:My God, who cares? Bizarre thing to be thinking or posting about.
So it seems weird to care if people in church believe in god?
Why would you care?
People go to church to praise God, right?
It’s a National Cathedral. It was specifically intended—back to L’Enfant’s original plan for the city—to draw visitors to DC closer to Christianity, and a lot of those visitors are not Christian. Atheists visiting is a feature, not a bug.
I seriously doubt that L'Enfant's plan to build a national cathedral was done in the hope that atheists and non-christians (people of other religions) would convert to Christianity. Never heard that one before. Besides, it's un-American.
I did not say that it was intended to create converts. But it was intended to showcase what was then the normative religious behavior of the American political class—which was Episcopalianism—when Congress chartered it in 1893. (It opened in my lifetime, but it took a VERY long time to build; cathedrals always do.)
So it was intended to "draw visitors to DC closer to Christianity", but not to create converts. Got it
I don’t know what you find so contradictory about this. The people who conceived of and created this cathedral thought of mainstream institutional Protestant Christianity as the national civil religion. When they thought about showing off the country to visitors, this was one of the things they wanted to show off.
Anonymous
04/20/2025 21:57
Subject: Atheists at the Cathedral on Good Friday
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:.Anonymous wrote:My God, who cares? Bizarre thing to be thinking or posting about.
So it seems weird to care if people in church believe in god?
Why would you care?
People go to church to praise God, right?
It’s a National Cathedral. It was specifically intended—back to L’Enfant’s original plan for the city—to draw visitors to DC closer to Christianity, and a lot of those visitors are not Christian. Atheists visiting is a feature, not a bug.
I seriously doubt that L'Enfant's plan to build a national cathedral was done in the hope that atheists and non-christians (people of other religions) would convert to Christianity. Never heard that one before. Besides, it's un-American.
I did not say that it was intended to create converts. But it was intended to showcase what was then the normative religious behavior of the American political class—which was Episcopalianism—when Congress chartered it in 1893. (It opened in my lifetime, but it took a VERY long time to build; cathedrals always do.)
So it was intended to "draw visitors to DC closer to Christianity", but not to create converts. Got it
Anonymous
04/20/2025 21:54
Subject: Atheists at the Cathedral on Good Friday
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:.Anonymous wrote:My God, who cares? Bizarre thing to be thinking or posting about.
So it seems weird to care if people in church believe in god?
Why would you care?
People go to church to praise God, right?
It’s a National Cathedral. It was specifically intended—back to L’Enfant’s original plan for the city—to draw visitors to DC closer to Christianity, and a lot of those visitors are not Christian. Atheists visiting is a feature, not a bug.
I seriously doubt that L'Enfant's plan to build a national cathedral was done in the hope that atheists and non-christians (people of other religions) would convert to Christianity. Never heard that one before. Besides, it's un-American.
I did not say that it was intended to create converts. But it was intended to showcase what was then the normative religious behavior of the American political class—which was Episcopalianism—when Congress chartered it in 1893. (It opened in my lifetime, but it took a VERY long time to build; cathedrals always do.)
I bet most members of congress are still Episcopalian. Such a safe religion and so accepting
Anonymous
04/20/2025 21:49
Subject: Atheists at the Cathedral on Good Friday
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:.Anonymous wrote:My God, who cares? Bizarre thing to be thinking or posting about.
So it seems weird to care if people in church believe in god?
Why would you care?
People go to church to praise God, right?
It’s a National Cathedral. It was specifically intended—back to L’Enfant’s original plan for the city—to draw visitors to DC closer to Christianity, and a lot of those visitors are not Christian. Atheists visiting is a feature, not a bug.
I seriously doubt that L'Enfant's plan to build a national cathedral was done in the hope that atheists and non-christians (people of other religions) would convert to Christianity. Never heard that one before. Besides, it's un-American.
I did not say that it was intended to create converts. But it was intended to showcase what was then the normative religious behavior of the American political class—which was Episcopalianism—when Congress chartered it in 1893. (It opened in my lifetime, but it took a VERY long time to build; cathedrals always do.)
Anonymous
04/20/2025 17:34
Subject: Atheists at the Cathedral on Good Friday
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:.Anonymous wrote:My God, who cares? Bizarre thing to be thinking or posting about.
So it seems weird to care if people in church believe in god?
Why would you care?
People go to church to praise God, right?
It’s a National Cathedral. It was specifically intended—back to L’Enfant’s original plan for the city—to draw visitors to DC closer to Christianity, and a lot of those visitors are not Christian. Atheists visiting is a feature, not a bug.
I seriously doubt that L'Enfant's plan to build a national cathedral was done in the hope that atheists and non-christians (people of other religions) would convert to Christianity. Never heard that one before. Besides, it's un-American.
Anonymous
04/20/2025 17:06
Subject: Atheists at the Cathedral on Good Friday
Oh look. Another thread asking about Athiests, so someone can complain about Atheists posting here.
Anonymous
04/20/2025 17:05
Subject: Atheists at the Cathedral on Good Friday
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:.Anonymous wrote:My God, who cares? Bizarre thing to be thinking or posting about.
So it seems weird to care if people in church believe in god?
Why would you care?
People go to church to praise God, right?
It’s a National Cathedral. It was specifically intended—back to L’Enfant’s original plan for the city—to draw visitors to DC closer to Christianity, and a lot of those visitors are not Christian. Atheists visiting is a feature, not a bug.
Anonymous
04/20/2025 16:48
Subject: Atheists at the Cathedral on Good Friday
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:.Anonymous wrote:My God, who cares? Bizarre thing to be thinking or posting about.
So it seems weird to care if people in church believe in god?
Why would you care?
People go to church to praise God, right?
Just like Jesus went to a colossal gothic building full of gold and art and stained glass and red velvet to praise God. Oh right, he didn't do that, did he.
Anonymous
04/20/2025 16:07
Subject: Atheists at the Cathedral on Good Friday
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:.Anonymous wrote:My God, who cares? Bizarre thing to be thinking or posting about.
So it seems weird to care if people in church believe in god?
Why would you care?
People go to church to praise God, right?
Anonymous
04/20/2025 15:50
Subject: Atheists at the Cathedral on Good Friday
Anonymous wrote:.Anonymous wrote:My God, who cares? Bizarre thing to be thinking or posting about.
So it seems weird to care if people in church believe in god?
Why would you care?
Anonymous
04/20/2025 14:19
Subject: Atheists at the Cathedral on Good Friday
.Anonymous wrote:My God, who cares? Bizarre thing to be thinking or posting about.
So it seems weird to care if people in church believe in god?