Anonymous
04/10/2025 15:46
Subject: Ivy Strivers have explaining to do
i think that's the point. If you can't get in the door, whats the point of talking about the salary?Anonymous wrote:99.9% of companies pay the same first year salary to everyone they hire. Getting the job is another story. Getting the next level job is all on you and your performance.
Anonymous
04/10/2025 15:45
Subject: Re:Ivy Strivers have explaining to do
Just another Jedi mind trick to get other kids to do less prep and lessen the competition.Anonymous wrote:It will blow your mind Op- but many did not “strive”.
My kid didn’t think about college until summer of Junior year. Put a list together in the Fall-from T1-T40/50.
He was accepted to a T-10, an Ivy, lots of T20s RD unhooked. Never would have thought he’d be at an Ivy.
He always did the things he liked to do—lots of his sport, some community service, summer job, etc. Never had a special project or go to any of those pay to play academic summer programs. He is a great writer and had a perfect academic record and very high scores- without tutors or a paid essay coach/counselor.
You should check yourself because referring to kids as “Ivy strivers” makes you sound like a nut. It’s even nuttier you are so upset but that you have to post random salary stuff. Go to work or go for a run. It will be okay.
Nobody believes someone without a hook got into " T-10, an Ivy, lots of T20s RD unhooked" without any prep.
Anonymous
04/10/2025 15:43
Subject: Ivy Strivers have explaining to do
99.9% of companies pay the same first year salary to everyone they hire. Getting the job is another story. Getting the next level job is all on you and your performance.
Anonymous
04/10/2025 15:40
Subject: Re:Ivy Strivers have explaining to do
Anonymous wrote:It will blow your mind Op- but many did not “strive”.
My kid didn’t think about college until summer of Junior year. Put a list together in the Fall-from T1-T40/50.
He was accepted to a T-10, an Ivy, lots of T20s RD unhooked. Never would have thought he’d be at an Ivy.
He always did the things he liked to do—lots of his sport, some community service, summer job, etc. Never had a special project or go to any of those pay to play academic summer programs. He is a great writer and had a perfect academic record and very high scores- without tutors or a paid essay coach/counselor.
You should check yourself because referring to kids as “Ivy strivers” makes you sound like a nut. It’s even nuttier you are so upset but that you have to post random salary stuff. Go to work or go for a run. It will be okay.
+1 It also makes "striver" sound like an insult. Most parents want their kid to strive towards a goal. I'd rather have a striver than a slacker.
Anonymous
04/10/2025 15:38
Subject: Ivy Strivers have explaining to do
What percentage of Ivy grads go directly into a PhD program, law school, med school instead of directly into a career? (Ie, $0 income or a stipend). The links are very light on info about methodology.
Anonymous
04/10/2025 15:38
Subject: Re:Ivy Strivers have explaining to do
It will blow your mind Op- but many did not “strive”.
My kid didn’t think about college until summer of Junior year. Put a list together in the Fall-from T1-T40/50.
He was accepted to a T-10, an Ivy, lots of T20s RD unhooked. Never would have thought he’d be at an Ivy.
He always did the things he liked to do—lots of his sport, some community service, summer job, etc. Never had a special project or go to any of those pay to play academic summer programs. He is a great writer and had a perfect academic record and very high scores- without tutors or a paid essay coach/counselor.
You should check yourself because referring to kids as “Ivy strivers” makes you sound like a nut. It’s even nuttier you are so upset but that you have to post random salary stuff. Go to work or go for a run. It will be okay.
My kid didn’t think about college until summer of Junior year. Put a list together in the Fall-from T1-T40/50.
He was accepted to a T-10, an Ivy, lots of T20s RD unhooked. Never would have thought he’d be at an Ivy.
He always did the things he liked to do—lots of his sport, some community service, summer job, etc. Never had a special project or go to any of those pay to play academic summer programs. He is a great writer and had a perfect academic record and very high scores- without tutors or a paid essay coach/counselor.
You should check yourself because referring to kids as “Ivy strivers” makes you sound like a nut. It’s even nuttier you are so upset but that you have to post random salary stuff. Go to work or go for a run. It will be okay.
Anonymous
04/10/2025 15:36
Subject: Ivy Strivers have explaining to do
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Pay Scale's Top 20 Based on An Analysis of 1503 colleges.
https://www.payscale.com/college-salary-report/bachelors
1. Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Engineering, Private School, Research University $110,200 $196,900 49% 66%
2.
Princeton University
Engineering, Ivy League, Private School, Research University, For Sports Fans $95,600 $194,100 51% 53%
3
United States Naval Academy
Engineering, Liberal Arts School, Sober School, For Sports Fans, State School $96,700 $187,800 53% 54%
4
Harvey Mudd College
Engineering, Liberal Arts School, Private School $115,000 $185,900 61% 74%
5
Babson College
Business, Private School $90,600 $181,400 48% 3%
6
Stanford University
Private School, Research University, For Sports Fans $102,300 $181,200 57% 48%
7
Santa Clara University
Private School, Religious, For Sports Fans $91,000 $179,500 45% 23%
8
Dartmouth College
Ivy League, Private School, Research University, For Sports Fans $92,300 $178,700 45% 36%
9
University of Pennsylvania
Ivy League, Private School, Research University, For Sports Fans $92,500 $178,300 37% 27%
10
Harvard University
Ivy League, Private School, Research University, For Sports Fans $95,600 $177,400 50% 19%
11
Colgate University
Liberal Arts School, Party School, Private School, For Sports Fans $87,400 $176,100 41% 25%
12
Lehigh University
Private School, Research University, For Sports Fans $89,100 $175,600 40% 43%
13
California Institute of Technology
Engineering, Private School, Research University $111,000 $175,400 50% 98%
14
Claremont McKenna College
Liberal Arts School, Private School $89,800 $175,000 53% 19%
15
United States Military Academy
Liberal Arts School, Sober School, For Sports Fans, State School $95,400 $174,100 66% 35%
16
Williams College
Liberal Arts School, Private School $85,800 $173,900 39% 29%
17
Stevens Institute of Technology
Engineering, Private School, Research University $92,800 $172,900 44% 76%
18
United States Air Force Academy
Engineering, Liberal Arts School, Sober School, For Sports Fans, State School $90,900 $172,800 64% 54%
19
Yale University
Ivy League, Private School, Research University, For Sports Fans $92,100 $171,900 52% 28%
20
University of California-Berkeley
The colleges, the OP is trying to boost--Emory, Wash U and Vanderbilt--aren't even on the list.
Doubt these schools need any “boosting”
Anonymous
04/10/2025 15:35
Subject: Ivy Strivers have explaining to do
Harvey Mudd looking good!
Anonymous
04/10/2025 15:35
Subject: Ivy Strivers have explaining to do
Salary is significantly more dependent on major than on which school you went to
Anonymous
04/10/2025 15:32
Subject: Ivy Strivers have explaining to do
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What the hell is going on with Princeton?
They go onto additional school. The 10-year salaries, etc are different
+1. Ivy grads make more over time. 2-years out tells you nothing.
Some of the links the OP was posting show job outcomes 6 months after graduation. Elite college kids go to grad school at a higher rate than other kids where they're earning nothing or maybe a minimum wage grad TA stipend. But I guess that's not prestigious in the OP's brain.
Anonymous
04/10/2025 15:31
Subject: Ivy Strivers have explaining to do
Anonymous wrote:For those of you who swear non ivy T25s like Washu, Emory, Vanderbilt, Rice are less prestigious than ivys please explain the Salary differences for 2023 grads
Yale
$88,464
https://cdn.ocs.yale.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/77/2025/01/Final-Class-of-2023-Report-6-months.pdf
Cornell
$84,000
https://ccs.career.cornell.edu/dash/dashboard_employment
Princeton
$89,144(mean) $60,000 median
https://projects.dailyprincetonian.com/senior-survey-2023/after-princeton.html
Emory
$82,100
https://apply.emory.edu/discover/facts-stats/after-graduation.html
Washu
$85,000
https://careers.wustl.edu/outcomes/#!eWVhcj0yMDIz
Vanderbilt
$85,000
https://www.vanderbilt.edu/career/career-outcomes/
Rice
$87,000
https://ccd.rice.edu/about/annual-report
These seem like Ivy level numbers to me. And a reminder that Emory doesn't have Engineering. Vandy, Rice, and Emory are all in the South as well.
Most college graduates are getting jobs in factories these days.
Anonymous
04/10/2025 15:30
Subject: Ivy Strivers have explaining to do
Anonymous wrote:Pay Scale's Top 20 Based on An Analysis of 1503 colleges.
https://www.payscale.com/college-salary-report/bachelors
1. Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Engineering, Private School, Research University $110,200 $196,900 49% 66%
2.
Princeton University
Engineering, Ivy League, Private School, Research University, For Sports Fans $95,600 $194,100 51% 53%
3
United States Naval Academy
Engineering, Liberal Arts School, Sober School, For Sports Fans, State School $96,700 $187,800 53% 54%
4
Harvey Mudd College
Engineering, Liberal Arts School, Private School $115,000 $185,900 61% 74%
5
Babson College
Business, Private School $90,600 $181,400 48% 3%
6
Stanford University
Private School, Research University, For Sports Fans $102,300 $181,200 57% 48%
7
Santa Clara University
Private School, Religious, For Sports Fans $91,000 $179,500 45% 23%
8
Dartmouth College
Ivy League, Private School, Research University, For Sports Fans $92,300 $178,700 45% 36%
9
University of Pennsylvania
Ivy League, Private School, Research University, For Sports Fans $92,500 $178,300 37% 27%
10
Harvard University
Ivy League, Private School, Research University, For Sports Fans $95,600 $177,400 50% 19%
11
Colgate University
Liberal Arts School, Party School, Private School, For Sports Fans $87,400 $176,100 41% 25%
12
Lehigh University
Private School, Research University, For Sports Fans $89,100 $175,600 40% 43%
13
California Institute of Technology
Engineering, Private School, Research University $111,000 $175,400 50% 98%
14
Claremont McKenna College
Liberal Arts School, Private School $89,800 $175,000 53% 19%
15
United States Military Academy
Liberal Arts School, Sober School, For Sports Fans, State School $95,400 $174,100 66% 35%
16
Williams College
Liberal Arts School, Private School $85,800 $173,900 39% 29%
17
Stevens Institute of Technology
Engineering, Private School, Research University $92,800 $172,900 44% 76%
18
United States Air Force Academy
Engineering, Liberal Arts School, Sober School, For Sports Fans, State School $90,900 $172,800 64% 54%
19
Yale University
Ivy League, Private School, Research University, For Sports Fans $92,100 $171,900 52% 28%
20
University of California-Berkeley
The colleges, the OP is trying to boost--Emory, Wash U and Vanderbilt--aren't even on the list.
Anonymous
04/10/2025 14:40
Subject: Ivy Strivers have explaining to do
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What the hell is going on with Princeton?
They go onto additional school. The 10-year salaries, etc are different
+1. Ivy grads make more over time. 2-years out tells you nothing.
Anonymous
04/10/2025 14:40
Subject: Ivy Strivers have explaining to do
Anonymous wrote:What the hell is going on with Princeton?
They go onto additional school. The 10-year salaries, etc are different
Anonymous
04/10/2025 14:39
Subject: Ivy Strivers have explaining to do
Pay Scale's Top 20 Based on An Analysis of 1503 colleges.
https://www.payscale.com/college-salary-report/bachelors
1. Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Engineering, Private School, Research University $110,200 $196,900 49% 66%
2.
Princeton University
Engineering, Ivy League, Private School, Research University, For Sports Fans $95,600 $194,100 51% 53%
3
United States Naval Academy
Engineering, Liberal Arts School, Sober School, For Sports Fans, State School $96,700 $187,800 53% 54%
4
Harvey Mudd College
Engineering, Liberal Arts School, Private School $115,000 $185,900 61% 74%
5
Babson College
Business, Private School $90,600 $181,400 48% 3%
6
Stanford University
Private School, Research University, For Sports Fans $102,300 $181,200 57% 48%
7
Santa Clara University
Private School, Religious, For Sports Fans $91,000 $179,500 45% 23%
8
Dartmouth College
Ivy League, Private School, Research University, For Sports Fans $92,300 $178,700 45% 36%
9
University of Pennsylvania
Ivy League, Private School, Research University, For Sports Fans $92,500 $178,300 37% 27%
10
Harvard University
Ivy League, Private School, Research University, For Sports Fans $95,600 $177,400 50% 19%
11
Colgate University
Liberal Arts School, Party School, Private School, For Sports Fans $87,400 $176,100 41% 25%
12
Lehigh University
Private School, Research University, For Sports Fans $89,100 $175,600 40% 43%
13
California Institute of Technology
Engineering, Private School, Research University $111,000 $175,400 50% 98%
14
Claremont McKenna College
Liberal Arts School, Private School $89,800 $175,000 53% 19%
15
United States Military Academy
Liberal Arts School, Sober School, For Sports Fans, State School $95,400 $174,100 66% 35%
16
Williams College
Liberal Arts School, Private School $85,800 $173,900 39% 29%
17
Stevens Institute of Technology
Engineering, Private School, Research University $92,800 $172,900 44% 76%
18
United States Air Force Academy
Engineering, Liberal Arts School, Sober School, For Sports Fans, State School $90,900 $172,800 64% 54%
19
Yale University
Ivy League, Private School, Research University, For Sports Fans $92,100 $171,900 52% 28%
20
University of California-Berkeley
https://www.payscale.com/college-salary-report/bachelors
1. Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Engineering, Private School, Research University $110,200 $196,900 49% 66%
2.
Princeton University
Engineering, Ivy League, Private School, Research University, For Sports Fans $95,600 $194,100 51% 53%
3
United States Naval Academy
Engineering, Liberal Arts School, Sober School, For Sports Fans, State School $96,700 $187,800 53% 54%
4
Harvey Mudd College
Engineering, Liberal Arts School, Private School $115,000 $185,900 61% 74%
5
Babson College
Business, Private School $90,600 $181,400 48% 3%
6
Stanford University
Private School, Research University, For Sports Fans $102,300 $181,200 57% 48%
7
Santa Clara University
Private School, Religious, For Sports Fans $91,000 $179,500 45% 23%
8
Dartmouth College
Ivy League, Private School, Research University, For Sports Fans $92,300 $178,700 45% 36%
9
University of Pennsylvania
Ivy League, Private School, Research University, For Sports Fans $92,500 $178,300 37% 27%
10
Harvard University
Ivy League, Private School, Research University, For Sports Fans $95,600 $177,400 50% 19%
11
Colgate University
Liberal Arts School, Party School, Private School, For Sports Fans $87,400 $176,100 41% 25%
12
Lehigh University
Private School, Research University, For Sports Fans $89,100 $175,600 40% 43%
13
California Institute of Technology
Engineering, Private School, Research University $111,000 $175,400 50% 98%
14
Claremont McKenna College
Liberal Arts School, Private School $89,800 $175,000 53% 19%
15
United States Military Academy
Liberal Arts School, Sober School, For Sports Fans, State School $95,400 $174,100 66% 35%
16
Williams College
Liberal Arts School, Private School $85,800 $173,900 39% 29%
17
Stevens Institute of Technology
Engineering, Private School, Research University $92,800 $172,900 44% 76%
18
United States Air Force Academy
Engineering, Liberal Arts School, Sober School, For Sports Fans, State School $90,900 $172,800 64% 54%
19
Yale University
Ivy League, Private School, Research University, For Sports Fans $92,100 $171,900 52% 28%
20
University of California-Berkeley