Anonymous wrote:I reported it. This is not helpful to anyone, including OP.

I do not need your concern (include massive eye roll)

I reported it. This is not helpful to anyone, including OP.

Anonymous wrote:can we get this pro-Ana garbage deleted?

+1 not normal

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Anonymous wrote:Please stop giving this troll any attention.

OP here I will say one last thing before I do my best to not respond to the troll and Anorexic posts.

I find damaging and surprising that so many of you refuse to understand that your own body and your own understanding of what a specific weight looks like is not the absolute perfect norm.

I trust people who say at the same height and at same weight- Let’s say 5’5” and 130 pounds which seems to be a point that triggers a lot of debates both ways on this site - that they either feel perfect, or too thin or want to lose 10 pounds. Bodies are different and people carry their weight differently. Not everyone has body image distortion if they don’t fit your norm.


I am not white, when I say my bone structure is very thin, I mean it is out of your norm thin. I need custom Rings or bracelets as regular size are too big (I could gain 30 pounds that wouldn’t change).

If you want a metric you can understand: my body fat percentage is 34%. I am absolutely not a stick and bone person.

OP. I am Asian who is skinny-fat. I posted above - the answer is to lift heavy weights and modify your diet to gain muscle, not take a GLP. You honestly sound insane that you *refuse* to see the issue.

Except, she is going to do these things. She's not "refusing" to see anything, she's going to run the experiment and see for herself. That's the whole point of this thread, she's going to try the "old-fashioned" way and see what happens. You people are attacking her simply to attack.

You don’t know much about physiology if you think this person who has difficulty gaining muscle will gain muscle by cutting calories and/or taking a GLP1.

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Anonymous wrote:Please stop giving this troll any attention.

OP here I will say one last thing before I do my best to not respond to the troll and Anorexic posts.

I find damaging and surprising that so many of you refuse to understand that your own body and your own understanding of what a specific weight looks like is not the absolute perfect norm.

I trust people who say at the same height and at same weight- Let’s say 5’5” and 130 pounds which seems to be a point that triggers a lot of debates both ways on this site - that they either feel perfect, or too thin or want to lose 10 pounds. Bodies are different and people carry their weight differently. Not everyone has body image distortion if they don’t fit your norm.


I am not white, when I say my bone structure is very thin, I mean it is out of your norm thin. I need custom Rings or bracelets as regular size are too big (I could gain 30 pounds that wouldn’t change).

If you want a metric you can understand: my body fat percentage is 34%. I am absolutely not a stick and bone person.

OP nobody is saying you can’t have your own beliefs about your ideal weight and appearance. Obviously you can and do.

what makes you so clearly disordered are the following:
- your own description of feeling like you are “constantly” thinking about food despite being a normal BMI
- your preoccupation with your weight and appearance
- your preoccupation with your ability to control your weight
- the fact that you want to use a GLP-1 to attain an underweight BMI (yes, even for Asian women it would be underweight)
- the fact that you are willing to threaten your overall health by taking a GLP-1 in order to become underweight.

You have an eating disorder OP.

- I have never said that I am constantly thinking about food. At all. I actually said the opposite : snacking and having a sweet tooth are not problems I have.
- I do pay attention to my weight and appearance. I am not in any way “preoccupied” by it. But this is a diet and exercise forum. Am I suppose to talk about politics and philosophy here ? What are you doing here ?
- I actually do not want to use a GLP 1. I want to prove to myself that I don’t need it and I should not give in to their marketing tactics.
- I absolutely do not have an eating disorder and you don’t have the competence to diagnostic other people online. Please behave

OP you are at low BMI already and are trying to become underweight (yes even for the adjusted BMI for Asian women). What do we call people who have a goal to be underweight …?

BMI is not the right measure for everyone. I am not underweight and my goal is not to be underweight for my body type. On the other hand your definition of Anorexia is limited and as such, incorrect.

The BMI chart adjusted for Asians literally says your goal weight is underweight. Refusing to accept that is literally the definition of an eating disorder.

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Anonymous wrote:Please stop giving this troll any attention.

OP here I will say one last thing before I do my best to not respond to the troll and Anorexic posts.

I find damaging and surprising that so many of you refuse to understand that your own body and your own understanding of what a specific weight looks like is not the absolute perfect norm.

I trust people who say at the same height and at same weight- Let’s say 5’5” and 130 pounds which seems to be a point that triggers a lot of debates both ways on this site - that they either feel perfect, or too thin or want to lose 10 pounds. Bodies are different and people carry their weight differently. Not everyone has body image distortion if they don’t fit your norm.


I am not white, when I say my bone structure is very thin, I mean it is out of your norm thin. I need custom Rings or bracelets as regular size are too big (I could gain 30 pounds that wouldn’t change).

If you want a metric you can understand: my body fat percentage is 34%. I am absolutely not a stick and bone person.

OP nobody is saying you can’t have your own beliefs about your ideal weight and appearance. Obviously you can and do.

what makes you so clearly disordered are the following:
- your own description of feeling like you are “constantly” thinking about food despite being a normal BMI
- your preoccupation with your weight and appearance
- your preoccupation with your ability to control your weight
- the fact that you want to use a GLP-1 to attain an underweight BMI (yes, even for Asian women it would be underweight)
- the fact that you are willing to threaten your overall health by taking a GLP-1 in order to become underweight.

You have an eating disorder OP.

- I have never said that I am constantly thinking about food. At all. I actually said the opposite : snacking and having a sweet tooth are not problems I have.
- I do pay attention to my weight and appearance. I am not in any way “preoccupied” by it. But this is a diet and exercise forum. Am I suppose to talk about politics and philosophy here ? What are you doing here ?
- I actually do not want to use a GLP 1. I want to prove to myself that I don’t need it and I should not give in to their marketing tactics.
- I absolutely do not have an eating disorder and you don’t have the competence to diagnostic other people online. Please behave

OP you are at low BMI already and are trying to become underweight (yes even for the adjusted BMI for Asian women). What do we call people who have a goal to be underweight …?

BMI is not the right measure for everyone. I am not underweight and my goal is not to be underweight for my body type. On the other hand your definition of Anorexia is limited and as such, incorrect.

Anonymous wrote:If you are not obese, which means for your height a weight of over 148, its a really bad idea. The very low end of the BMI moderate scale is 118, where you are now. You should not take GLP and I think it would be veering into malpractice for a doctor to give it to you.

What?! at 5'6", 148 is neither obese or overweight. I think overweight starts at 154 and obese at 185. (I am 5'6" and weight about 188 and I am debating whether to use GLP-1. I have gained and lost 30-40 pounds several times in my adult life without meds, but canot see to keep it off).

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Anonymous wrote:Please stop giving this troll any attention.

OP here I will say one last thing before I do my best to not respond to the troll and Anorexic posts.

I find damaging and surprising that so many of you refuse to understand that your own body and your own understanding of what a specific weight looks like is not the absolute perfect norm.

I trust people who say at the same height and at same weight- Let’s say 5’5” and 130 pounds which seems to be a point that triggers a lot of debates both ways on this site - that they either feel perfect, or too thin or want to lose 10 pounds. Bodies are different and people carry their weight differently. Not everyone has body image distortion if they don’t fit your norm.


I am not white, when I say my bone structure is very thin, I mean it is out of your norm thin. I need custom Rings or bracelets as regular size are too big (I could gain 30 pounds that wouldn’t change).

If you want a metric you can understand: my body fat percentage is 34%. I am absolutely not a stick and bone person.

OP nobody is saying you can’t have your own beliefs about your ideal weight and appearance. Obviously you can and do.

what makes you so clearly disordered are the following:
- your own description of feeling like you are “constantly” thinking about food despite being a normal BMI
- your preoccupation with your weight and appearance
- your preoccupation with your ability to control your weight
- the fact that you want to use a GLP-1 to attain an underweight BMI (yes, even for Asian women it would be underweight)
- the fact that you are willing to threaten your overall health by taking a GLP-1 in order to become underweight.

You have an eating disorder OP.

- I have never said that I am constantly thinking about food. At all. I actually said the opposite : snacking and having a sweet tooth are not problems I have.
- I do pay attention to my weight and appearance. I am not in any way “preoccupied” by it. But this is a diet and exercise forum. Am I suppose to talk about politics and philosophy here ? What are you doing here ?
- I actually do not want to use a GLP 1. I want to prove to myself that I don’t need it and I should not give in to their marketing tactics.
- I absolutely do not have an eating disorder and you don’t have the competence to diagnostic other people online. Please behave

OP you are at low BMI already and are trying to become underweight (yes even for the adjusted BMI for Asian women). What do we call people who have a goal to be underweight …?

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Anonymous wrote:Please stop giving this troll any attention.

OP here I will say one last thing before I do my best to not respond to the troll and Anorexic posts.

I find damaging and surprising that so many of you refuse to understand that your own body and your own understanding of what a specific weight looks like is not the absolute perfect norm.

I trust people who say at the same height and at same weight- Let’s say 5’5” and 130 pounds which seems to be a point that triggers a lot of debates both ways on this site - that they either feel perfect, or too thin or want to lose 10 pounds. Bodies are different and people carry their weight differently. Not everyone has body image distortion if they don’t fit your norm.


I am not white, when I say my bone structure is very thin, I mean it is out of your norm thin. I need custom Rings or bracelets as regular size are too big (I could gain 30 pounds that wouldn’t change).

If you want a metric you can understand: my body fat percentage is 34%. I am absolutely not a stick and bone person.

OP. I am Asian who is skinny-fat. I posted above - the answer is to lift heavy weights and modify your diet to gain muscle, not take a GLP. You honestly sound insane that you *refuse* to see the issue.

Except, she is going to do these things. She's not "refusing" to see anything, she's going to run the experiment and see for herself. That's the whole point of this thread, she's going to try the "old-fashioned" way and see what happens. You people are attacking her simply to attack.

For a month. That’s the plan. And if that doesn’t work, OP plans to give up. Which is monumentally stupid.

Do you really think that if it works for say a 75% improvement and is OP is 2 pounds away from her goal weight at the one month point she's just going to throw in the towel and use the GLP-1 instead of continuing what she has found success in? Really?

OP here, you are 100% correct. I want to see some results in a month (if I follow my planned routine, if I slack it doesn’t count and my experiment is not completed). I don’t mean that I need to achieve all my goals in a month.

I also realize that the way I worded my last sentence in my first post was too strong. I was setting a specific goal for myself in terms of weight loss and basically said “if I don’t get that I will move on with GLP 1” which is not where my mind currently is.

First if I feel like I got stronger and less bloated and fit in my pants, it won’t matter if my weight is actually lower. I will still feel I succeeded. Second, if I follow my plan and still fail to see results, I will probably not take a decision right then and there and conclude that a GLP 1 is the only option left for me personally if I want results. But it would be an unpleasant lesson that would cause me to reassess my hypothesis.

Right now my hypothesis is that”I know what I need to do. My problem is the discipline to apply it consistently”. There are several conclusions I can take in a month if I manage to be disciplined and don’t see results (including that my diet and exercise plan is the wrong one).

Anonymous wrote:It takes a lot longer than a month to see results with weight training.

If you have the money for drugs, you have the money to hire a trainer. Not to show you what to do (since you day you already know), but to impose discipline. I lift with a trainer 2x per week not because I couldn't lift on my own at this point but because I know, after living with myself for 55 years, that I WON'T lift on my own. So I pay someone to schedule time with me, and since I don't want to be rude, I show up and lift. Best thing I've ever done for myself (and I feel extremely lucky to be able to afford it).

Op here, that’s a great point

It takes a lot longer than a month to see results with weight training.

If you have the money for drugs, you have the money to hire a trainer. Not to show you what to do (since you day you already know), but to impose discipline. I lift with a trainer 2x per week not because I couldn't lift on my own at this point but because I know, after living with myself for 55 years, that I WON'T lift on my own. So I pay someone to schedule time with me, and since I don't want to be rude, I show up and lift. Best thing I've ever done for myself (and I feel extremely lucky to be able to afford it).

OP has a BMI of 18.5. The very low end of healthy, and she wants to be solidly underweight. It makes no sense. I say that as someone who is six inches shorter and has a small frame.

She needs to gain muscle weight, and reduce fat. The scale would increase during that time. She should put on ten pounds of muscle.

STOP WATCHING THE SCALE. Get a trainer, eat protein, take measurements and body scans. You can do free scans using Me360.

I didn't know if op is for real, but just in case, give your trial at least 3 months. Add weights. Stop alcohol. Have really really good sleep hygiene and stress management. Pay more attention to how strong you feel than what the scale says.

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Anonymous wrote:Please stop giving this troll any attention.

OP here I will say one last thing before I do my best to not respond to the troll and Anorexic posts.

I find damaging and surprising that so many of you refuse to understand that your own body and your own understanding of what a specific weight looks like is not the absolute perfect norm.

I trust people who say at the same height and at same weight- Let’s say 5’5” and 130 pounds which seems to be a point that triggers a lot of debates both ways on this site - that they either feel perfect, or too thin or want to lose 10 pounds. Bodies are different and people carry their weight differently. Not everyone has body image distortion if they don’t fit your norm.


I am not white, when I say my bone structure is very thin, I mean it is out of your norm thin. I need custom Rings or bracelets as regular size are too big (I could gain 30 pounds that wouldn’t change).

If you want a metric you can understand: my body fat percentage is 34%. I am absolutely not a stick and bone person.

OP. I am Asian who is skinny-fat. I posted above - the answer is to lift heavy weights and modify your diet to gain muscle, not take a GLP. You honestly sound insane that you *refuse* to see the issue.

Except, she is going to do these things. She's not "refusing" to see anything, she's going to run the experiment and see for herself. That's the whole point of this thread, she's going to try the "old-fashioned" way and see what happens. You people are attacking her simply to attack.

For a month. That’s the plan. And if that doesn’t work, OP plans to give up. Which is monumentally stupid.

Do you really think that if it works for say a 75% improvement and is OP is 2 pounds away from her goal weight at the one month point she's just going to throw in the towel and use the GLP-1 instead of continuing what she has found success in? Really?

The answer is in your own question. The time scale here for results is not a month. That’s the issue.

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Anonymous wrote:Please stop giving this troll any attention.

OP here I will say one last thing before I do my best to not respond to the troll and Anorexic posts.

I find damaging and surprising that so many of you refuse to understand that your own body and your own understanding of what a specific weight looks like is not the absolute perfect norm.

I trust people who say at the same height and at same weight- Let’s say 5’5” and 130 pounds which seems to be a point that triggers a lot of debates both ways on this site - that they either feel perfect, or too thin or want to lose 10 pounds. Bodies are different and people carry their weight differently. Not everyone has body image distortion if they don’t fit your norm.


I am not white, when I say my bone structure is very thin, I mean it is out of your norm thin. I need custom Rings or bracelets as regular size are too big (I could gain 30 pounds that wouldn’t change).

If you want a metric you can understand: my body fat percentage is 34%. I am absolutely not a stick and bone person.

OP. I am Asian who is skinny-fat. I posted above - the answer is to lift heavy weights and modify your diet to gain muscle, not take a GLP. You honestly sound insane that you *refuse* to see the issue.

Except, she is going to do these things. She's not "refusing" to see anything, she's going to run the experiment and see for herself. That's the whole point of this thread, she's going to try the "old-fashioned" way and see what happens. You people are attacking her simply to attack.

For a month. That’s the plan. And if that doesn’t work, OP plans to give up. Which is monumentally stupid.

Do you really think that if it works for say a 75% improvement and is OP is 2 pounds away from her goal weight at the one month point she's just going to throw in the towel and use the GLP-1 instead of continuing what she has found success in? Really?