Anonymous wrote:Anyone declined/is declining because they are not so confident if DC will do well in the CES program? DS is offered a spot but we are still contemplating. While he can read and spell like an adult and scores high in MAP/above reading level/straight As, but he lacks writing, comprehension and analytics skills, which seem to be the main focus of the CES program. We are worried DS might struggle in the program and need to drop out later (though DS personally really want to do the CES program). Any insights from families who went through the program but dropped out later because the program was not a good fit?

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone declined/is declining because they are not so confident if DC will do well in the CES program? DS is offered a spot but we are still contemplating. While he can read and spell like an adult and scores high in MAP/above reading level/straight As, but he lacks writing, comprehension and analytics skills, which seem to be the main focus of the CES program. We are worried DS might struggle in the program and need to drop out later (though DS personally really want to do the CES program). Any insights from families who went through the program but dropped out later because the program was not a good fit?

I think that is precisely why you should send your kid there. He will develop these skills in a way I unlikely to happen in the regular program. But he won’t get straight As, which is ok.

I want to the prioritize magnet MS as a goal so will focus on grades and test scores at home school

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone declined/is declining because they are not so confident if DC will do well in the CES program? DS is offered a spot but we are still contemplating. While he can read and spell like an adult and scores high in MAP/above reading level/straight As, but he lacks writing, comprehension and analytics skills, which seem to be the main focus of the CES program. We are worried DS might struggle in the program and need to drop out later (though DS personally really want to do the CES program). Any insights from families who went through the program but dropped out later because the program was not a good fit?

I think that is precisely why you should send your kid there. He will develop these skills in a way I unlikely to happen in the regular program. But he won’t get straight As, which is ok.

I want to the prioritize magnet MS as a goal so will focus on grades and test scores at home school

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone declined/is declining because they are not so confident if DC will do well in the CES program? DS is offered a spot but we are still contemplating. While he can read and spell like an adult and scores high in MAP/above reading level/straight As, but he lacks writing, comprehension and analytics skills, which seem to be the main focus of the CES program. We are worried DS might struggle in the program and need to drop out later (though DS personally really want to do the CES program). Any insights from families who went through the program but dropped out later because the program was not a good fit?

I think that is precisely why you should send your kid there. He will develop these skills in a way I unlikely to happen in the regular program. But he won’t get straight As, which is ok.

Anonymous wrote:Anyone declined/is declining because they are not so confident if DC will do well in the CES program? DS is offered a spot but we are still contemplating. While he can read and spell like an adult and scores high in MAP/above reading level/straight As, but he lacks writing, comprehension and analytics skills, which seem to be the main focus of the CES program. We are worried DS might struggle in the program and need to drop out later (though DS personally really want to do the CES program). Any insights from families who went through the program but dropped out later because the program was not a good fit?

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Anonymous wrote:Kid wanted to bike/walk to school to get that feel of independence and continue to be able to hang out with friends more casually, already at a high performing elementary with a great teacher who does the enriched ELA.

Not worth the commute given the lottery. I like that the kids who might have gone to the CES a few years ago now have to stay at the home school.

Damn, that is cold. Staying in your home school is the right choice for your child, but you’re glad other families who would have wanted the CES don’t have access to it??

DP with an unpopular opinion. It's nice that the home school is a great option. My kid is with the most advanced kids in her class at a school with very high SES families. Not sure I'd want to change to CES where kids lottery in with lower stats due to FARMS or IEPs.

Yikes!! Heaven forbid that your child might go to school with poor children! Better decline the CES.

Yes that perspective bothered me too, although PP seemed to be aware of it. The concern I guess is that the “poor children” are less smart and haven’t truly earned the spot. I think that perspective fails to consider that a major reason for the different cutoffs at high FARMS students is that those kids likely have similar potential but don’t test as well given to inequity across schools.

Honestly, I live in a high SES area and sent my kids to magnets - CES and middle school magnets. We all - kids and I - agree that one of the biggest benefits of going to a magnet was the racially, culturally and economically diverse student body. It was far better than staying in our high SES school where a significant chunk of parents (not all) were racist, classist snobs like the top PP - the kind who always make an assumption that the minority and/or poor kids in a magnet are just there due to some kind of special lower standard for poor, minority or disabled kids. In fact, we find these kind of high SES people - the kind who are careful to never to associate with the "lesser" folk - to be only moderately smart, often succeeding professionally more due to their social network and privilege rather than deep intelligence, imagination and drive.

I never met a kid in the magnet of any color or social background who didn't seem bright enough to be there.

CES is through a lottery. Magnet programs are not. So yes while magnet kids are very bright, CES is a mixed bag. And that's OK.

You sound like you have noblesse oblige symptom. You are the one who is saying poor, minority or disabled kids are lesser than you. Yet you deign to be among them. How magnanimous!