Anonymous wrote:If a middle class student from a functional family with no apparent LDs and reasonably intelligent (say, IQ above 120) is getting Cs in HS in several subjects (including Gen Ed classes), would you think they are just not motivated or would you look for hidden LDs?
I’ve had a conversation with someone who said any reasonably intelligent kid will get As and Bs in HS, at least in regular classes, and there’s something going on if they don’t (like ADHD or dyslexia). My take, however, is that some kids just aren’t motivated enough to care.
What does everyone think?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If a middle class student from a functional family with no apparent LDs and reasonably intelligent (say, IQ above 120) is getting Cs in HS in several subjects (including Gen Ed classes), would you think they are just not motivated or would you look for hidden LDs?
I’ve had a conversation with someone who said any reasonably intelligent kid will get As and Bs in HS, at least in regular classes, and there’s something going on if they don’t (like ADHD or dyslexia). My take, however, is that some kids just aren’t motivated enough to care.
What does everyone think?
First, you got the IQ thing wrong. 120 is not average it’s above average, only about 10% of people test there.
A legitimate IQ test has an average of 100. About 50% of students will have scores between 90 - 110. Between 110 - 120 is above average. 120 - 139 is a bright student and over 140 is very rare.
Anonymous wrote:If a middle class student from a functional family with no apparent LDs and reasonably intelligent (say, IQ above 120) is getting Cs in HS in several subjects (including Gen Ed classes), would you think they are just not motivated or would you look for hidden LDs?
I’ve had a conversation with someone who said any reasonably intelligent kid will get As and Bs in HS, at least in regular classes, and there’s something going on if they don’t (like ADHD or dyslexia). My take, however, is that some kids just aren’t motivated enough to care.
What does everyone think?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If I was the teacher and a helicopter mom was harassing me to bump a C up to an A and I felt pressure and coercion from the admin, then I might inflate if I wanted to keep my teaching job. But if I did it for one family of cheaters then I would have to do it for every kid in the class rendering the competitive nature of grades useless and corrupted. Stfo of the classroom helicopter moms
I am not talking about that. I am talking about a child who apparently doesn’t do the work/doesn’t care on the surface.
Wondering if something is broken or it’s just the way they are.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If a middle class student from a functional family with no apparent LDs and reasonably intelligent (say, IQ above 120) is getting Cs in HS in several subjects (including Gen Ed classes), would you think they are just not motivated or would you look for hidden LDs?
I’ve had a conversation with someone who said any reasonably intelligent kid will get As and Bs in HS, at least in regular classes, and there’s something going on if they don’t (like ADHD or dyslexia). My take, however, is that some kids just aren’t motivated enough to care.
What does everyone think?
A kid with an IQ over 120 who’s getting C’s in regular classes has some sort of problem going on.
Anonymous wrote:It's not fair to all the kids when a couple bad apple parents want to threaten a teachers career bc they grade fairly. I've been in a situation where parents want to help an admin retaliate on teachers who dont inflate enough.
Anonymous wrote:It's not fair to all the kids when a couple bad apple parents want to threaten a teachers career bc they grade fairly. I've been in a situation where parents want to help an admin retaliate on teachers who dont inflate enough.
Anonymous wrote:If I was the teacher and a helicopter mom was harassing me to bump a C up to an A and I felt pressure and coercion from the admin, then I might inflate if I wanted to keep my teaching job. But if I did it for one family of cheaters then I would have to do it for every kid in the class rendering the competitive nature of grades useless and corrupted. Stfo of the classroom helicopter moms
Anonymous wrote:If a middle class student from a functional family with no apparent LDs and reasonably intelligent (say, IQ above 120) is getting Cs in HS in several subjects (including Gen Ed classes), would you think they are just not motivated or would you look for hidden LDs?
I’ve had a conversation with someone who said any reasonably intelligent kid will get As and Bs in HS, at least in regular classes, and there’s something going on if they don’t (like ADHD or dyslexia). My take, however, is that some kids just aren’t motivated enough to care.
What does everyone think?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My kids are not apathetic. I guess we just are lucky. I will say that if they were apathetic, then I think tiger mom would need to suddenly appear in their lives. Raaar.
This OP. You need to get tough. Put some consequences in for when his grades slide to less than A (or regular classes) due to lack of effort. Not finding the work interesting is irrelevant. He needs to grow up and develop some work ethic
Anonymous wrote:My kids are not apathetic. I guess we just are lucky. I will say that if they were apathetic, then I think tiger mom would need to suddenly appear in their lives. Raaar.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Op here, it’s mostly theoretical though my kid does have running Cs here and there but not as a semester grade. He definitely CAN do well, there’s no dyslexia, that’s why I think it can just be a motivation issue.
It’s apathy. It’s a HUGE problem among a lot of students. I was just talking to a high school teacher about this. He said he just can’t get students to care. Even with in class assignments, students will just not do them and play games on their Chromebooks or put their head down instead
I suspect there may be low key adhd too, but mostly yes, I feel like he has niche interests and school isn’t one of them. I am torn, I don’t think an argumentative essay about teen abortion rights is a very exciting choice for a 14 yo boy, but then why not quickly get it out of the way and do whatever is interesting?