Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of states where going OOS is a big upgrade over the in-state schools. It just depends what your options are.
Is that perception or reality?
For some states it is perception, but for some it is absolutely reality. There are plenty of states with middling flagships and plenty of other states with great ones which would be an upgrade.
Well most of us posting here are probably from coastal states which arguably all have good publics
I’m not sure how I would ‘absolutely’ know that UVA or U Michigan, lets say bc those are trendy OOS schools where I live, would be so much better than UMD or Rutgers in NJ.
Is that ‘absolutely reality’? On what basis?
Okay, you’ve moved the goalposts from a general “is OOS worth it” to “is OOS worth it if you live in one of a dozen states on the Eastern Seaboard.” The differential is smaller in the latter, though there are definitely still states where you would upgrade by going OOS.
(Fwiw, yes, UVA and Michigan are better schools across a host of metrics, but whether you think it is worth it to pay for them is entirely a judgment call.)
Not sure what you mean but I don’t think any goal posts were moved. You’re just bringing up extreme examples like a kid getting a full ride at UMich and rejecting it over in state at university of Utah. I don’t think there are many posters here in that situation but obviously people are free to answer, explaining their choices. No one said that they shouldn’t choose one way or other or the other in EVERY situation.
You seem very strange and defensive
Not defensive at all, not sure what about my comment you found defensive. I’m just pointing out my original point that it depends on what state you’re in (I’m not the poster that mentioned full rides). Obviously the more you shrink that down to a handful of states, the less likely it is that going OOS makes sense. But across 50 states there are plenty of states where it would make sense and be reasonable to go elsewhere.
It seems there are some very strange posters here who need confirmation that not letting their kid go out of state is the right thing to do. Because they are quick to challenge anyone who suggests that going OOS could be worth it, could be an upgrade, etc. It’s all just a judgement call based on what state you live in, what your OOS options are, what your kid wants to study and do, and what your financial situation is. If it’s not for you, that’s fine too.
The OP asked for experiences. No one made any statement that OOS would not ever make sense in every single scenario. If someone did, please show it to me. I must have missed it.
And I was responding to this question from OP: “In most cases, is that OOS school really that much ‘better’ to justify the price?”
In most cases, it depends on all of the things I mentioned. I don’t know why this bothers you.
Analytics is not your strong suit. Let’s move on
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would but DD did not get accepted so sending to a nearby state and they’re offering merit that comes in at instate rate. Don’t forget instates are very competitive and not everyone gets in.
But did your DD only apply to one? MD has many state schools and it’s hard to imagine getting rejected at all of them and still being accepted at an OOS.
We’re new to this but our DD is going to an in state over the pricier OOS options. Even with merit aid the price over four years was about $35k more for OOS. We visited and then made a list of pros and cons for all of them and couldn’t figure out a good reason to spend that extra $35k. So she chose one of her in state options.
Everyone’s financial situation is different and I’m not here to comment on yours. But for a lot of people an extra $35k in total spread across four years isn’t a dealbreaker.
Lol I love how someone always has to come in sniffing, letting everyone know they have money.
But I think for some of us it’s not just the question of whether we have the money, but why it would make sense to spend it on another states schools.
To be fair, that comes out to $730/mo over the four years which is a car payment for some people. Some families would be willing to drive an older car for those four years and put that money into their kids education.
Yes, it’s money, but it’s not out of reach for everyone.
Yeah but this isn’t a conversation about
Putting money into your Kid’s education. The conversation is about unnecessary spending for that education. I mean I were not talking about sending your MIT admitted student to Frostburg.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would but DD did not get accepted so sending to a nearby state and they’re offering merit that comes in at instate rate. Don’t forget instates are very competitive and not everyone gets in.
But did your DD only apply to one? MD has many state schools and it’s hard to imagine getting rejected at all of them and still being accepted at an OOS.
We’re new to this but our DD is going to an in state over the pricier OOS options. Even with merit aid the price over four years was about $35k more for OOS. We visited and then made a list of pros and cons for all of them and couldn’t figure out a good reason to spend that extra $35k. So she chose one of her in state options.
Everyone’s financial situation is different and I’m not here to comment on yours. But for a lot of people an extra $35k in total spread across four years isn’t a dealbreaker.
Lol I love how someone always has to come in sniffing, letting everyone know they have money.
But I think for some of us it’s not just the question of whether we have the money, but why it would make sense to spend it on another states schools.
To be fair, that comes out to $730/mo over the four years which is a car payment for some people. Some families would be willing to drive an older car for those four years and put that money into their kids education.
Yes, it’s money, but it’s not out of reach for everyone.
Yeah but this isn’t a conversation about
Putting money into your Kid’s education. The conversation is about unnecessary spending for that education. I mean I were not talking about sending your MIT admitted student to Frostburg.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of states where going OOS is a big upgrade over the in-state schools. It just depends what your options are.
Is that perception or reality?
For some states it is perception, but for some it is absolutely reality. There are plenty of states with middling flagships and plenty of other states with great ones which would be an upgrade.
Well most of us posting here are probably from coastal states which arguably all have good publics
I’m not sure how I would ‘absolutely’ know that UVA or U Michigan, lets say bc those are trendy OOS schools where I live, would be so much better than UMD or Rutgers in NJ.
Is that ‘absolutely reality’? On what basis?
Okay, you’ve moved the goalposts from a general “is OOS worth it” to “is OOS worth it if you live in one of a dozen states on the Eastern Seaboard.” The differential is smaller in the latter, though there are definitely still states where you would upgrade by going OOS.
(Fwiw, yes, UVA and Michigan are better schools across a host of metrics, but whether you think it is worth it to pay for them is entirely a judgment call.)
Not sure what you mean but I don’t think any goal posts were moved. You’re just bringing up extreme examples like a kid getting a full ride at UMich and rejecting it over in state at university of Utah. I don’t think there are many posters here in that situation but obviously people are free to answer, explaining their choices. No one said that they shouldn’t choose one way or other or the other in EVERY situation.
You seem very strange and defensive
Not defensive at all, not sure what about my comment you found defensive. I’m just pointing out my original point that it depends on what state you’re in (I’m not the poster that mentioned full rides). Obviously the more you shrink that down to a handful of states, the less likely it is that going OOS makes sense. But across 50 states there are plenty of states where it would make sense and be reasonable to go elsewhere.
It seems there are some very strange posters here who need confirmation that not letting their kid go out of state is the right thing to do. Because they are quick to challenge anyone who suggests that going OOS could be worth it, could be an upgrade, etc. It’s all just a judgement call based on what state you live in, what your OOS options are, what your kid wants to study and do, and what your financial situation is. If it’s not for you, that’s fine too.
The OP asked for experiences. No one made any statement that OOS would not ever make sense in every single scenario. If someone did, please show it to me. I must have missed it.
And I was responding to this question from OP: “In most cases, is that OOS school really that much ‘better’ to justify the price?”
In most cases, it depends on all of the things I mentioned. I don’t know why this bothers you.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of states where going OOS is a big upgrade over the in-state schools. It just depends what your options are.
Is that perception or reality?
For some states it is perception, but for some it is absolutely reality. There are plenty of states with middling flagships and plenty of other states with great ones which would be an upgrade.
Well most of us posting here are probably from coastal states which arguably all have good publics
I’m not sure how I would ‘absolutely’ know that UVA or U Michigan, lets say bc those are trendy OOS schools where I live, would be so much better than UMD or Rutgers in NJ.
Is that ‘absolutely reality’? On what basis?
Okay, you’ve moved the goalposts from a general “is OOS worth it” to “is OOS worth it if you live in one of a dozen states on the Eastern Seaboard.” The differential is smaller in the latter, though there are definitely still states where you would upgrade by going OOS.
(Fwiw, yes, UVA and Michigan are better schools across a host of metrics, but whether you think it is worth it to pay for them is entirely a judgment call.)
Not sure what you mean but I don’t think any goal posts were moved. You’re just bringing up extreme examples like a kid getting a full ride at UMich and rejecting it over in state at university of Utah. I don’t think there are many posters here in that situation but obviously people are free to answer, explaining their choices. No one said that they shouldn’t choose one way or other or the other in EVERY situation.
You seem very strange and defensive
Not defensive at all, not sure what about my comment you found defensive. I’m just pointing out my original point that it depends on what state you’re in (I’m not the poster that mentioned full rides). Obviously the more you shrink that down to a handful of states, the less likely it is that going OOS makes sense. But across 50 states there are plenty of states where it would make sense and be reasonable to go elsewhere.
It seems there are some very strange posters here who need confirmation that not letting their kid go out of state is the right thing to do. Because they are quick to challenge anyone who suggests that going OOS could be worth it, could be an upgrade, etc. It’s all just a judgement call based on what state you live in, what your OOS options are, what your kid wants to study and do, and what your financial situation is. If it’s not for you, that’s fine too.
The OP asked for experiences. No one made any statement that OOS would not ever make sense in every single scenario. If someone did, please show it to me. I must have missed it.
Anonymous wrote:No regrets. DS chose UMD OOS w some merit ($46k COA) v WM ($42k) for CS. Likely would have selected UVA but was WL. No interest in VT.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would but DD did not get accepted so sending to a nearby state and they’re offering merit that comes in at instate rate. Don’t forget instates are very competitive and not everyone gets in.
But did your DD only apply to one? MD has many state schools and it’s hard to imagine getting rejected at all of them and still being accepted at an OOS.
We’re new to this but our DD is going to an in state over the pricier OOS options. Even with merit aid the price over four years was about $35k more for OOS. We visited and then made a list of pros and cons for all of them and couldn’t figure out a good reason to spend that extra $35k. So she chose one of her in state options.
Everyone’s financial situation is different and I’m not here to comment on yours. But for a lot of people an extra $35k in total spread across four years isn’t a dealbreaker.
Lol I love how someone always has to come in sniffing, letting everyone know they have money.
But I think for some of us it’s not just the question of whether we have the money, but why it would make sense to spend it on another states schools.
Sorry that I told you the truth, which is that some people wouldn’t make a decision based on a difference of $8,750 a year. Some would. That’s okay too.
Lot of weird reactions on this thread.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would but DD did not get accepted so sending to a nearby state and they’re offering merit that comes in at instate rate. Don’t forget instates are very competitive and not everyone gets in.
But did your DD only apply to one? MD has many state schools and it’s hard to imagine getting rejected at all of them and still being accepted at an OOS.
We’re new to this but our DD is going to an in state over the pricier OOS options. Even with merit aid the price over four years was about $35k more for OOS. We visited and then made a list of pros and cons for all of them and couldn’t figure out a good reason to spend that extra $35k. So she chose one of her in state options.
Everyone’s financial situation is different and I’m not here to comment on yours. But for a lot of people an extra $35k in total spread across four years isn’t a dealbreaker.
Lol I love how someone always has to come in sniffing, letting everyone know they have money.
But I think for some of us it’s not just the question of whether we have the money, but why it would make sense to spend it on another states schools.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would but DD did not get accepted so sending to a nearby state and they’re offering merit that comes in at instate rate. Don’t forget instates are very competitive and not everyone gets in.
But did your DD only apply to one? MD has many state schools and it’s hard to imagine getting rejected at all of them and still being accepted at an OOS.
We’re new to this but our DD is going to an in state over the pricier OOS options. Even with merit aid the price over four years was about $35k more for OOS. We visited and then made a list of pros and cons for all of them and couldn’t figure out a good reason to spend that extra $35k. So she chose one of her in state options.
Everyone’s financial situation is different and I’m not here to comment on yours. But for a lot of people an extra $35k in total spread across four years isn’t a dealbreaker.
Lol I love how someone always has to come in sniffing, letting everyone know they have money.
But I think for some of us it’s not just the question of whether we have the money, but why it would make sense to spend it on another states schools.
To be fair, that comes out to $730/mo over the four years which is a car payment for some people. Some families would be willing to drive an older car for those four years and put that money into their kids education.
Yes, it’s money, but it’s not out of reach for everyone.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of states where going OOS is a big upgrade over the in-state schools. It just depends what your options are.
Is that perception or reality?
For some states it is perception, but for some it is absolutely reality. There are plenty of states with middling flagships and plenty of other states with great ones which would be an upgrade.
Well most of us posting here are probably from coastal states which arguably all have good publics
I’m not sure how I would ‘absolutely’ know that UVA or U Michigan, lets say bc those are trendy OOS schools where I live, would be so much better than UMD or Rutgers in NJ.
Is that ‘absolutely reality’? On what basis?
Okay, you’ve moved the goalposts from a general “is OOS worth it” to “is OOS worth it if you live in one of a dozen states on the Eastern Seaboard.” The differential is smaller in the latter, though there are definitely still states where you would upgrade by going OOS.
(Fwiw, yes, UVA and Michigan are better schools across a host of metrics, but whether you think it is worth it to pay for them is entirely a judgment call.)
Not sure what you mean but I don’t think any goal posts were moved. You’re just bringing up extreme examples like a kid getting a full ride at UMich and rejecting it over in state at university of Utah. I don’t think there are many posters here in that situation but obviously people are free to answer, explaining their choices. No one said that they shouldn’t choose one way or other or the other in EVERY situation.
You seem very strange and defensive
Not defensive at all, not sure what about my comment you found defensive. I’m just pointing out my original point that it depends on what state you’re in (I’m not the poster that mentioned full rides). Obviously the more you shrink that down to a handful of states, the less likely it is that going OOS makes sense. But across 50 states there are plenty of states where it would make sense and be reasonable to go elsewhere.
It seems there are some very strange posters here who need confirmation that not letting their kid go out of state is the right thing to do. Because they are quick to challenge anyone who suggests that going OOS could be worth it, could be an upgrade, etc. It’s all just a judgement call based on what state you live in, what your OOS options are, what your kid wants to study and do, and what your financial situation is. If it’s not for you, that’s fine too.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of states where going OOS is a big upgrade over the in-state schools. It just depends what your options are.
Is that perception or reality?
For some states it is perception, but for some it is absolutely reality. There are plenty of states with middling flagships and plenty of other states with great ones which would be an upgrade.
Well most of us posting here are probably from coastal states which arguably all have good publics
I’m not sure how I would ‘absolutely’ know that UVA or U Michigan, lets say bc those are trendy OOS schools where I live, would be so much better than UMD or Rutgers in NJ.
Is that ‘absolutely reality’? On what basis?
Okay, you’ve moved the goalposts from a general “is OOS worth it” to “is OOS worth it if you live in one of a dozen states on the Eastern Seaboard.” The differential is smaller in the latter, though there are definitely still states where you would upgrade by going OOS.
(Fwiw, yes, UVA and Michigan are better schools across a host of metrics, but whether you think it is worth it to pay for them is entirely a judgment call.)
Not sure what you mean but I don’t think any goal posts were moved. You’re just bringing up extreme examples like a kid getting a full ride at UMich and rejecting it over in state at university of Utah. I don’t think there are many posters here in that situation but obviously people are free to answer, explaining their choices. No one said that they shouldn’t choose one way or other or the other in EVERY situation.
You seem very strange and defensive