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Anonymous wrote:ND is operating on all cylinders. Their endowment is $18 billion by contrast Georgetown has little over $3 billion and Holy Cross about $1.4 billion . Gtown and and ND about same size Holy Cross much smaller enrollment. ND had one of the best endowment fund managers for decades.

A big part of that is because Notre Dame has embraced their Catholic identity, while jesuit schools like georgetown have rejected or hidden their Catholic identity.

Catholics across the country embrace ND as "our" Catholic flagship.

Then why isn't The Catholic University of America #1?

People forget how much of an undergraduate-focused university Notre Dame really is. While the grad / professional schools have some very solid programs -- law, business, theology, philosophy, math (particularly logic) -- the university didn't really start building out its graduate offerings until the '80s. The exception to that would be the law school, which has been quite highly regarded for a long time.

In many respects, a school like ND is the opposite of a school like U of Michigan or UC Berkeley. At Michigan or Berkeley, the excellence of the graduate programs is the calling card. At Notre Dame, the undergraduate focus is paramount, and if anything the excellence of the undergraduate education has boosted ND's reputation and enabled the graduate schools to attract more candidates.

Why doesn't Notre Dame have better graduate schools?

Notre Dame has great name recognition and a lot of money. It doesn't make much sense that they have professional and non-professional grad schools at the level they do.

Anonymous wrote:The best Catholic school in the country with top sports beautiful campus and a $20 billion endowment. Big gap over the Catholic/Jesuit schools Gtown, Holy Cross, and Boston College. Now they need to win NCAA football title great coach.

Sorry, but Indiana can’t bridge that gap. Yes, it’s a good school and I’ve been in campus, but it’s Indiana.

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Anonymous wrote:ND is operating on all cylinders. Their endowment is $18 billion by contrast Georgetown has little over $3 billion and Holy Cross about $1.4 billion . Gtown and and ND about same size Holy Cross much smaller enrollment. ND had one of the best endowment fund managers for decades.

A big part of that is because Notre Dame has embraced their Catholic identity, while jesuit schools like georgetown have rejected or hidden their Catholic identity.

Catholics across the country embrace ND as "our" Catholic flagship.

Uh, no, it was the NBC contract.

Surprise surprise. Academically elite schools are getting more popular.

Out of the top schools, I don't recall seeing any that experienced a drop in admissions. Maybe Harvard by a couple of percent because it went to test mandatory. Otherwise the top schools hoover up all the best applicants and those applicants apply to the same top 50 or so schools.

Anonymous wrote:Meh. It's not so typical to guarantee needblind admissions to international students. With some PR on that, they could easily have gotten a ton of students from overseas to apply, thereby increasing their selectivity a ton...

This post is meh. Notre Dame does not need to increase its selectivity.

Meh. It's not so typical to guarantee needblind admissions to international students. With some PR on that, they could easily have gotten a ton of students from overseas to apply, thereby increasing their selectivity a ton...

Notre Dame has huge endowment because it has produced a ton of highly successful alums all over the country. Gtown is more secular and focused on politics, foreign service and government not high paying. Holy Cross is a tiny lac but apparently successful alumni base on east coast? Cornell might have smallest endowment per student in the Ivy League,

ND is such a great school and community! Great academics/faculty, school spirit, sports, strong religious values, dedicated alum network, etc. I understand why it is so popular. If we were a catholic/christian family, I would have pushed my kid to apply. My senior preferred to be in/near a city so ND location was a no-go and didn't make the list. The school is also truly catholic vs Jesuit like georgetown. Something to consider... but nonetheless an impressive school with strong leadership, happy kids and great student outcomes.

Anonymous wrote:Anyone have experience with ND for a student who is NOT a practicing Catholic (one parent raised Catholic, one non, and neither parent is particularly religious, though the kid has been to mass, occasionally, goes with grandma, etc). Every single other thing about the school checks ds' boxes and he would gladly apply REA and give up the shot at ED elsewhere, but he is worried he will feel like an outsider - though when he toured and met current students, they all told him he would not. But 80% Catholic is obv significant.

Maybe he will reconnect with his Catholic heritage.

Anonymous wrote:ND is operating on all cylinders. Their endowment is $18 billion by contrast Georgetown has little over $3 billion and Holy Cross about $1.4 billion . Gtown and and ND about same size Holy Cross much smaller enrollment. ND had one of the best endowment fund managers for decades.

A big part of that is because Notre Dame has embraced their Catholic identity, while jesuit schools like georgetown have rejected or hidden their Catholic identity.

Catholics across the country embrace ND as "our" Catholic flagship.

Anonymous wrote:Every college has a record number of applications this year. This doesn't add up--unless the number of high school students increase a lot this year.

We are almost to the peak of the post 9-11 baby boom.

Next year (class of 2026) is even bigger.

2027 is big, but slightly smaller. Then the size starts to decrease, slowly but then drastically.

ND is operating on all cylinders. Their endowment is $18 billion by contrast Georgetown has little over $3 billion and Holy Cross about $1.4 billion . Gtown and and ND about same size Holy Cross much smaller enrollment. ND had one of the best endowment fund managers for decades.

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Anonymous wrote:Sad that a school like ND with that endowment cannot produce one single decent graduate program….for a school with that profile, their graduate degrees in general are terrible…
No wonder any research based rankings they are not even in the ballpark of their undergraduate teaching rankings…

Who cares. My DS doesn't want to do his graduate work at the same school as undergrad. Notre Dame does things their own way and it's worked well for a long long long time.

Except for research output. So much for undergrad being involved with research BS that they sell to parents and prospective students.
My daughter went to ND. Had a great time, but my son at Cornell had 100x better research opportunities as an undergrad than my daughter had….it wasn’t even a close comparison.

Notre Dame student's accepted to medical school is at 84% which is almost twice as high as the national average.

So? Almost every ivy as well as Duke, JHU, Northwestern is closer to 90, and the rest of the T25 and T5 Lacs are all above 80%. ND at 84 is expected not impressive.

You are trying to hard. It's impressive.