Anonymous wrote:Even before he announced he was going to run for mayor of New York City, I had long thought that Cuomo is a dark horse for 2028. He has the tough guy persona and charisma that Democrats are completely lacking right now. He also has great political instincts and is not going to hitch his wagon to any unpopular, unworkable ideology for the sake of purity.

I know he was Me Tooed out of office and I thought he deserved that. I am not even going to touch the pandemic issues. But right now, today, leaving aside personal dislike of the man, I think he could win over swing voters. I also think he could help Democrats address the male voter problem. He is probably the only male Democrat right now who embodies the virile man's man and isn't faking it unconvincingly.

Can anyone picture JD Vance or even prime 2016 Trump getting the last word on Cuomo in a debate?

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Anonymous wrote:The worst thing about Cuomo for us is his Covid sins. Democrat enthusiasm for destructive Covid protocols is an underappreciated reason for our current troubles. It’s THE most important reason people hate dcurbanmom types and call us Karens, moreso than our embrace of migrants and trans folk.

Cuomo would remind everyone of our terrible behavior—closing schools, mandating masks, trying to get people fired, being cruel to our own neighbors and family members—and would remind everyone that we never apologized for ANY of it. Most of us secretly still believe we helped save the world by working from home. By 2028, hopefully swing voters will have forgotten to some extent. But not if we bring in Cuomo. He’s a poster child for Covid protocols. Lockdowns, daily briefings, and even…killing granny by commanding that active Covid infections be transferred to nursing homes. He’s triple threat!

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Anonymous wrote:No. Absolutely not. He wasn't "Me Tooed."He was rightfully shooed out because he harassed women. There are no shortage of good candidates. We don't need to go with the another bad actor

OP here. Yes, I know he's a bad guy from the moral standpoint. I am not talking about that. I am talking about whether or not he can win.

And I'm saying who cares? We will just end up with another corrupt sexist in office. Seriously. Eff that guy when there are tons of other winners.

+1000 2028 will be a repeat of 2020 and 2024 when the incumbent party is at a huge disadvantage due to the sitting president being very unpopular. The incumbent party never wins in this situation. Dems need to take advantage of this 2028 election gift with an elite candidate who is capable of winning a second term in 2032. Cuomo isn't that elite candidate just as much as Biden wasn't that elite candidate.

Who is the MOST elite candidate at the moment? I agree with you that we don’t even know the name of our next Obama yet (or we barely know it) and the right person could emerge from a fair primary. But, hypothetically, if we knew the DNC would decide, and they’d take you advice, and it had to happen today, who are the types of people who would make your short list?

I've always been a fan of multi-term state governors being on the short list of potential POTUS candidates. They have the most relevant experience. Dems have a few of those from swing states (being from a swing state adds some mustard to a candidate's resume but it isn't a must have). I would have thought redneck Clinton had no chance on the big stage until he actually got on the big stage. It's impossible to tell if a candidate has the necessary likability and presidential leadership prowess until they are campaigning. Primary debates can be very effective in separating the cream of the crop from the also-rans (primary debates serve an actual purpose unlike general election debates that have only served the purpose of embarrassing the country in recent elections).

Yeah, I didn’t think you’d be willing to say a name. It’s slim pickins on the blue team these days

Thanks to Trump being the sitting POTUS, we'll have another easy election victory in 2028 just like we had in 2020. We just need someone that has the talent and fitness to still be viable in 2032 so we don't get Bidened again.

If ONLY you had the courage to brainstorm a few names, we could get started. But no. Let’s assume that the donors and superdelegates lose interest in politics and money and just leave it up to the people this year. Don’t worry, you won’t have to nominate anyone. You can just wait for the winner to emerge from the new fair process that you won’t demand. And the our victory will be automatic. History says so. Anyway, people are LOVING the Democratic Party these days. We may nit have any attractive candidates, but at least we’ve got a great party brand.

We didn't have any strong candidates in 2020 and still won easily. The concern is 2032. We won't know if we have a guaranteed two term horse to nominate until campaign season begins in 2027. Patience, my friend. Been here, done this.

We didn’t win easily. The election was determined by 77,000 votes (across 3 swing states) and it took an extra week of counting, 30 MILLION more votes than the 2016 election, and a whole lot of censorship to get us that win

I’ve been here and done this myself, and from what I’m seeing now I would be Shocked if we win in 2028

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Anonymous wrote:No. Absolutely not. He wasn't "Me Tooed."He was rightfully shooed out because he harassed women. There are no shortage of good candidates. We don't need to go with the another bad actor

OP here. Yes, I know he's a bad guy from the moral standpoint. I am not talking about that. I am talking about whether or not he can win.

And I'm saying who cares? We will just end up with another corrupt sexist in office. Seriously. Eff that guy when there are tons of other winners.

+1000 2028 will be a repeat of 2020 and 2024 when the incumbent party is at a huge disadvantage due to the sitting president being very unpopular. The incumbent party never wins in this situation. Dems need to take advantage of this 2028 election gift with an elite candidate who is capable of winning a second term in 2032. Cuomo isn't that elite candidate just as much as Biden wasn't that elite candidate.

Who is the MOST elite candidate at the moment? I agree with you that we don’t even know the name of our next Obama yet (or we barely know it) and the right person could emerge from a fair primary. But, hypothetically, if we knew the DNC would decide, and they’d take you advice, and it had to happen today, who are the types of people who would make your short list?

I've always been a fan of multi-term state governors being on the short list of potential POTUS candidates. They have the most relevant experience. Dems have a few of those from swing states (being from a swing state adds some mustard to a candidate's resume but it isn't a must have). I would have thought redneck Clinton had no chance on the big stage until he actually got on the big stage. It's impossible to tell if a candidate has the necessary likability and presidential leadership prowess until they are campaigning. Primary debates can be very effective in separating the cream of the crop from the also-rans (primary debates serve an actual purpose unlike general election debates that have only served the purpose of embarrassing the country in recent elections).

Yeah, I didn’t think you’d be willing to say a name. It’s slim pickins on the blue team these days

Thanks to Trump being the sitting POTUS, we'll have another easy election victory in 2028 just like we had in 2020. We just need someone that has the talent and fitness to still be viable in 2032 so we don't get Bidened again.

If ONLY you had the courage to brainstorm a few names, we could get started. But no. Let’s assume that the donors and superdelegates lose interest in politics and money and just leave it up to the people this year. Don’t worry, you won’t have to nominate anyone. You can just wait for the winner to emerge from the new fair process that you won’t demand. And the our victory will be automatic. History says so. Anyway, people are LOVING the Democratic Party these days. We may nit have any attractive candidates, but at least we’ve got a great party brand.

We didn't have any strong candidates in 2020 and still won easily. The concern is 2032. We won't know if we have a guaranteed two term horse to nominate until campaign season begins in 2027. Patience, my friend. Been here, done this.

Anonymous wrote:Even before he announced he was going to run for mayor of New York City, I had long thought that Cuomo is a dark horse for 2028. He has the tough guy persona and charisma that Democrats are completely lacking right now. He also has great political instincts and is not going to hitch his wagon to any unpopular, unworkable ideology for the sake of purity.

I know he was Me Tooed out of office and I thought he deserved that. I am not even going to touch the pandemic issues. But right now, today, leaving aside personal dislike of the man, I think he could win over swing voters. I also think he could help Democrats address the male voter problem. He is probably the only male Democrat right now who embodies the virile man's man and isn't faking it unconvincingly.

Can anyone picture JD Vance or even prime 2016 Trump getting the last word on Cuomo in a debate?

Thoughts?

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that we are still talking about manly is g
So disappointing. No one voted for Trump because he's manly. He is a fat, orange faced blob that NO ONE would want to sleep with.

“Elite” DC Democrats are disappointed that manliness is still a thing… in 2025! Why can’t people admit that Kamala Harris and Hillary Clinton could go toe to toe with Putin…in heels and backwards!

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So disappointing. No one voted for Trump because he's manly. He is a fat, orange faced blob that NO ONE would want to sleep with.

“Elite” DC Democrats are disappointed that manliness is still a thing… in 2025! Why can’t people admit that Kamala Harris and Hillary Clinton could go toe to toe with Putin…in heels and backwards!

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Anonymous wrote:No. Absolutely not. He wasn't "Me Tooed."He was rightfully shooed out because he harassed women. There are no shortage of good candidates. We don't need to go with the another bad actor

OP here. Yes, I know he's a bad guy from the moral standpoint. I am not talking about that. I am talking about whether or not he can win.

And I'm saying who cares? We will just end up with another corrupt sexist in office. Seriously. Eff that guy when there are tons of other winners.

+1000 2028 will be a repeat of 2020 and 2024 when the incumbent party is at a huge disadvantage due to the sitting president being very unpopular. The incumbent party never wins in this situation. Dems need to take advantage of this 2028 election gift with an elite candidate who is capable of winning a second term in 2032. Cuomo isn't that elite candidate just as much as Biden wasn't that elite candidate.

Who is the MOST elite candidate at the moment? I agree with you that we don’t even know the name of our next Obama yet (or we barely know it) and the right person could emerge from a fair primary. But, hypothetically, if we knew the DNC would decide, and they’d take you advice, and it had to happen today, who are the types of people who would make your short list?

I've always been a fan of multi-term state governors being on the short list of potential POTUS candidates. They have the most relevant experience. Dems have a few of those from swing states (being from a swing state adds some mustard to a candidate's resume but it isn't a must have). I would have thought redneck Clinton had no chance on the big stage until he actually got on the big stage. It's impossible to tell if a candidate has the necessary likability and presidential leadership prowess until they are campaigning. Primary debates can be very effective in separating the cream of the crop from the also-rans (primary debates serve an actual purpose unlike general election debates that have only served the purpose of embarrassing the country in recent elections).

Yeah, I didn’t think you’d be willing to say a name. It’s slim pickins on the blue team these days

Thanks to Trump being the sitting POTUS, we'll have another easy election victory in 2028 just like we had in 2020. We just need someone that has the talent and fitness to still be viable in 2032 so we don't get Bidened again.

If ONLY you had the courage to brainstorm a few names, we could get started. But no. Let’s assume that the donors and superdelegates lose interest in politics and money and just leave it up to the people this year. Don’t worry, you won’t have to nominate anyone. You can just wait for the winner to emerge from the new fair process that you won’t demand. And the our victory will be automatic. History says so. Anyway, people are LOVING the Democratic Party these days. We may nit have any attractive candidates, but at least we’ve got a great party brand.

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So disappointing. No one voted for Trump because he's manly. He is a fat, orange faced blob that NO ONE would want to sleep with.

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Anonymous wrote:Jesus is a good idea. Dems have become the party of anti-Christian atheism. This isn’t a winning position.

If you read the Bible and somehow end up a voting republican, you are following some pretty crap false prophets

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Anonymous wrote:Very weird that innocuous posts are being deleted. Where'd the post on asexual Democrat men go? Kind of ironic that one hit a nerve here.

I reported it because it was...weird. And super offensive. It wasn't innocuous. It was gross and bordered on misandry. Hell. It was misandry.

How embarrassing to be so childish and priggish.

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Anonymous wrote:No. Absolutely not. He wasn't "Me Tooed."He was rightfully shooed out because he harassed women. There are no shortage of good candidates. We don't need to go with the another bad actor

OP here. Yes, I know he's a bad guy from the moral standpoint. I am not talking about that. I am talking about whether or not he can win.

And I'm saying who cares? We will just end up with another corrupt sexist in office. Seriously. Eff that guy when there are tons of other winners.

+1000 2028 will be a repeat of 2020 and 2024 when the incumbent party is at a huge disadvantage due to the sitting president being very unpopular. The incumbent party never wins in this situation. Dems need to take advantage of this 2028 election gift with an elite candidate who is capable of winning a second term in 2032. Cuomo isn't that elite candidate just as much as Biden wasn't that elite candidate.

Who is the MOST elite candidate at the moment? I agree with you that we don’t even know the name of our next Obama yet (or we barely know it) and the right person could emerge from a fair primary. But, hypothetically, if we knew the DNC would decide, and they’d take you advice, and it had to happen today, who are the types of people who would make your short list?

I've always been a fan of multi-term state governors being on the short list of potential POTUS candidates. They have the most relevant experience. Dems have a few of those from swing states (being from a swing state adds some mustard to a candidate's resume but it isn't a must have). I would have thought redneck Clinton had no chance on the big stage until he actually got on the big stage. It's impossible to tell if a candidate has the necessary likability and presidential leadership prowess until they are campaigning. Primary debates can be very effective in separating the cream of the crop from the also-rans (primary debates serve an actual purpose unlike general election debates that have only served the purpose of embarrassing the country in recent elections).

Yeah, I didn’t think you’d be willing to say a name. It’s slim pickins on the blue team these days

Thanks to Trump being the sitting POTUS, we'll have another easy election victory in 2028 just like we had in 2020. We just need someone that has the talent and fitness to still be viable in 2032 so we don't get Bidened again.

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Anonymous wrote:Very weird that innocuous posts are being deleted. Where'd the post on asexual Democrat men go? Kind of ironic that one hit a nerve here.

I reported it because it was...weird. And super offensive. It wasn't innocuous. It was gross and bordered on misandry. Hell. It was misandry.

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Anonymous wrote:No. Absolutely not. He wasn't "Me Tooed."He was rightfully shooed out because he harassed women. There are no shortage of good candidates. We don't need to go with the another bad actor

OP here. Yes, I know he's a bad guy from the moral standpoint. I am not talking about that. I am talking about whether or not he can win.

I really think that you must be either drunk or crazy to suggest that his despicable behavior would not be a major factor for his ineligibility!