Anonymous
04/11/2025 17:22
Subject: New Club Search Season Full Swing
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Leaving SYC because our current coach plays favoritism.
Hard works FAVORS those who put in the hard work
We have a player biobanding to play down in our age group. He plays full time every single game. He is not the best player in our younger group and can hardly get any minutes in his own age group.
Several players in our age group have to be either benched or play limited time because of this biobanding player.
I think this is beyond favoritism.
Anonymous
04/11/2025 13:33
Subject: New Club Search Season Full Swing
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Leaving SYC because our current coach plays favoritism.
Hard works FAVORS those who put in the hard work
Ha! You mean the coach favors the kids who pay extra for his personal training sessions.
OK, this is literally true everywhere. The coach favors the kids to do the extra training because they are playing according to his style and doing what he says out on the pitch. It’s OK if you and I don’t like it, but the truth is the cosch needs players who do what he says and play in his style. If you’re paying for the extra training or just doing all the extra training offered, that’s what’s up. Some clubs are going to have random training clinics and sessions for extra money like Bethesda. Some of them are going to have a coach who does it on the side, and some of them are gonna have coaches that have their own private training groups also for money in a more formal fashion. Everywhere has something.
Anonymous
04/11/2025 13:03
Subject: New Club Search Season Full Swing
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Lots has already been said and not sure we will have option to leave for better team. Here goes. U15 girl:
1. Lack of club organization and facilities. At least 1/3 of practices cancelled this year. Indoor space not procured equitably. Yes 1st team got it, but so did lower level younger boys teams.
2. Huge rage of kids on team, not all serious, and lots of drama.
3. Too much scrimmaging. Totally agree, even the best teams do SOME tech training. It’s super important. One-touching to each other doesn’t happen with no practice.The girls who do nothing at home and don’t run are obvious.
4. Practices constantly change and can be up to an hour away. Really hard for working parents.
5. No film review ever.
6. Also agree that club heads, TDs, should come to a practice or two. Single coach is overwhelmed with little to no support from club.
Practice an HOUR away? What club? Thats insane.
With RTO who has an hour to drive their DC to practice?
Anonymous
03/25/2025 21:37
Subject: Re:New Club Search Season Full Swing
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Leaving current club for club that knows what they are doing for boys college recruiting. And puts investment there. A club that walks the talk and has results and relationships. At younger years this is less important. By U-15 it matters and too many clubs ride the girls coattails but don’t do anything similar for their boys.
Can you give us some real examples of what the new club is doing to help with tangible college recruiting for boys?
Here is a start…
#1- club leaders know college coaches (local and top programs) and have put time and effort into forming trusted relationships. College coaches take their calls and they are responsive and proactive with recruiting process—engaged vs passive.
#2- they host college coaches onsite for boys (inviting college coaches to practices and/or running scrimmages to invite coaches to watch).
#3 club makes sure boys get into right tournaments to maximize recruiting and also advocate for right bracket placement and/or game times to maximize coach attendance vs leaving to chance
#4 They are savvy with social media and activate assets/exposure to assist with college recruiting.
#6 they know about and advocate for awards /special opportunities for their players (selection games, all conference, ID sessions) that help with ongoing exposure
#7 they do educations sessions on recruiting process- teaching players how to reach out
#8 they invest in technology/ platforms for teams and their players that support recruiting (VEO, hudl/sportsrecruits etc)
#9 they have the receipts great track record of placements specific to boys- overtime.
FYI, I hope you find what you are looking for in a club but I have heard it is 99% on the student athlete being proactive about the schools they want and contacting them.
Not to mention that some 80% (more?) of college recruits are internationals
It’s not 80% but very high on boys side which is why proactive club support and advocacy matters for American players. Plenty of HS kids still getting offers (1000 each year from competitive MLs Next and ECNL teams ) but it’s getting much harder for boys.
Where did you get this 1000 number from?
How many of that 1000 are MLS Next and how many ECNL?
If you google you can find the stats of commitments. In DMV area ECNL and Next are 50/50 in terms of college recruitment (slight advantage to ECNL more recently) with clubs like Richmond, Pipeline, Arlington (ECNL) and Bethesda, DCU, and Armour (Next/MLS) having the lions share of commitments. Next and MLS have a lot that go pro vs college.
If you got the numbers from Instagram, those numbers are corrupt. That account is corrupt and publishes fake data tables to make a it looks like it is compiled ECNL research... The only way to get those numbers are from ECNL and MLS Next directly.
Just looking at actual college rosters tells you its not 50/50 between MLS Next and ECNL for boys
Bingo.
Start with TDS and look at 2023-2024 commits as a starting point (you can sort by state- VA, MD, DC). Very easy to find info. You can also look on Instagram and Twitter. Several places report this (SoccerWire etc).
You can’t look at college soccer rosters as a whole to get any useful breakdown data as ECNL (for boys) and MLS Next are only 3-4 years old which means current Juniors/Seniors would have played in other leagues (Academy, USYS etc).
ECNL falls behind International transfers, mls club academies and MLS next in the college recruiting order today
Unless you're talking about the girls side
Anonymous
03/24/2025 17:14
Subject: Re:New Club Search Season Full Swing
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Leaving current club for club that knows what they are doing for boys college recruiting. And puts investment there. A club that walks the talk and has results and relationships. At younger years this is less important. By U-15 it matters and too many clubs ride the girls coattails but don’t do anything similar for their boys.
Can you give us some real examples of what the new club is doing to help with tangible college recruiting for boys?
Here is a start…
#1- club leaders know college coaches (local and top programs) and have put time and effort into forming trusted relationships. College coaches take their calls and they are responsive and proactive with recruiting process—engaged vs passive.
#2- they host college coaches onsite for boys (inviting college coaches to practices and/or running scrimmages to invite coaches to watch).
#3 club makes sure boys get into right tournaments to maximize recruiting and also advocate for right bracket placement and/or game times to maximize coach attendance vs leaving to chance
#4 They are savvy with social media and activate assets/exposure to assist with college recruiting.
#6 they know about and advocate for awards /special opportunities for their players (selection games, all conference, ID sessions) that help with ongoing exposure
#7 they do educations sessions on recruiting process- teaching players how to reach out
#8 they invest in technology/ platforms for teams and their players that support recruiting (VEO, hudl/sportsrecruits etc)
#9 they have the receipts great track record of placements specific to boys- overtime.
FYI, I hope you find what you are looking for in a club but I have heard it is 99% on the student athlete being proactive about the schools they want and contacting them.
Not to mention that some 80% (more?) of college recruits are internationals
It’s not 80% but very high on boys side which is why proactive club support and advocacy matters for American players. Plenty of HS kids still getting offers (1000 each year from competitive MLs Next and ECNL teams ) but it’s getting much harder for boys.
Where did you get this 1000 number from?
How many of that 1000 are MLS Next and how many ECNL?
If you google you can find the stats of commitments. In DMV area ECNL and Next are 50/50 in terms of college recruitment (slight advantage to ECNL more recently) with clubs like Richmond, Pipeline, Arlington (ECNL) and Bethesda, DCU, and Armour (Next/MLS) having the lions share of commitments. Next and MLS have a lot that go pro vs college.
If you got the numbers from Instagram, those numbers are corrupt. That account is corrupt and publishes fake data tables to make a it looks like it is compiled ECNL research... The only way to get those numbers are from ECNL and MLS Next directly.
Just looking at actual college rosters tells you its not 50/50 between MLS Next and ECNL for boys
Bingo.
Start with TDS and look at 2023-2024 commits as a starting point (you can sort by state- VA, MD, DC). Very easy to find info. You can also look on Instagram and Twitter. Several places report this (SoccerWire etc).
You can’t look at college soccer rosters as a whole to get any useful breakdown data as ECNL (for boys) and MLS Next are only 3-4 years old which means current Juniors/Seniors would have played in other leagues (Academy, USYS etc).
Anonymous
03/24/2025 11:07
Subject: Re:New Club Search Season Full Swing
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Leaving current club for club that knows what they are doing for boys college recruiting. And puts investment there. A club that walks the talk and has results and relationships. At younger years this is less important. By U-15 it matters and too many clubs ride the girls coattails but don’t do anything similar for their boys.
Can you give us some real examples of what the new club is doing to help with tangible college recruiting for boys?
Here is a start…
#1- club leaders know college coaches (local and top programs) and have put time and effort into forming trusted relationships. College coaches take their calls and they are responsive and proactive with recruiting process—engaged vs passive.
#2- they host college coaches onsite for boys (inviting college coaches to practices and/or running scrimmages to invite coaches to watch).
#3 club makes sure boys get into right tournaments to maximize recruiting and also advocate for right bracket placement and/or game times to maximize coach attendance vs leaving to chance
#4 They are savvy with social media and activate assets/exposure to assist with college recruiting.
#6 they know about and advocate for awards /special opportunities for their players (selection games, all conference, ID sessions) that help with ongoing exposure
#7 they do educations sessions on recruiting process- teaching players how to reach out
#8 they invest in technology/ platforms for teams and their players that support recruiting (VEO, hudl/sportsrecruits etc)
#9 they have the receipts great track record of placements specific to boys- overtime.
FYI, I hope you find what you are looking for in a club but I have heard it is 99% on the student athlete being proactive about the schools they want and contacting them.
Not to mention that some 80% (more?) of college recruits are internationals
It’s not 80% but very high on boys side which is why proactive club support and advocacy matters for American players. Plenty of HS kids still getting offers (1000 each year from competitive MLs Next and ECNL teams ) but it’s getting much harder for boys.
Where did you get this 1000 number from?
How many of that 1000 are MLS Next and how many ECNL?
If you google you can find the stats of commitments. In DMV area ECNL and Next are 50/50 in terms of college recruitment (slight advantage to ECNL more recently) with clubs like Richmond, Pipeline, Arlington (ECNL) and Bethesda, DCU, and Armour (Next/MLS) having the lions share of commitments. Next and MLS have a lot that go pro vs college.
If you got the numbers from Instagram, those numbers are corrupt. That account is corrupt and publishes fake data tables to make a it looks like it is compiled ECNL research... The only way to get those numbers are from ECNL and MLS Next directly.
Just looking at actual college rosters tells you its not 50/50 between MLS Next and ECNL for boys
Bingo.
Anonymous
03/24/2025 08:12
Subject: Re:New Club Search Season Full Swing
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Leaving current club for club that knows what they are doing for boys college recruiting. And puts investment there. A club that walks the talk and has results and relationships. At younger years this is less important. By U-15 it matters and too many clubs ride the girls coattails but don’t do anything similar for their boys.
Can you give us some real examples of what the new club is doing to help with tangible college recruiting for boys?
Here is a start…
#1- club leaders know college coaches (local and top programs) and have put time and effort into forming trusted relationships. College coaches take their calls and they are responsive and proactive with recruiting process—engaged vs passive.
#2- they host college coaches onsite for boys (inviting college coaches to practices and/or running scrimmages to invite coaches to watch).
#3 club makes sure boys get into right tournaments to maximize recruiting and also advocate for right bracket placement and/or game times to maximize coach attendance vs leaving to chance
#4 They are savvy with social media and activate assets/exposure to assist with college recruiting.
#6 they know about and advocate for awards /special opportunities for their players (selection games, all conference, ID sessions) that help with ongoing exposure
#7 they do educations sessions on recruiting process- teaching players how to reach out
#8 they invest in technology/ platforms for teams and their players that support recruiting (VEO, hudl/sportsrecruits etc)
#9 they have the receipts great track record of placements specific to boys- overtime.
FYI, I hope you find what you are looking for in a club but I have heard it is 99% on the student athlete being proactive about the schools they want and contacting them.
Not to mention that some 80% (more?) of college recruits are internationals
It’s not 80% but very high on boys side which is why proactive club support and advocacy matters for American players. Plenty of HS kids still getting offers (1000 each year from competitive MLs Next and ECNL teams ) but it’s getting much harder for boys.
Where did you get this 1000 number from?
How many of that 1000 are MLS Next and how many ECNL?
If you google you can find the stats of commitments. In DMV area ECNL and Next are 50/50 in terms of college recruitment (slight advantage to ECNL more recently) with clubs like Richmond, Pipeline, Arlington (ECNL) and Bethesda, DCU, and Armour (Next/MLS) having the lions share of commitments. Next and MLS have a lot that go pro vs college.
If you got the numbers from Instagram, those numbers are corrupt. That account is corrupt and publishes fake data tables to make a it looks like it is compiled ECNL research... The only way to get those numbers are from ECNL and MLS Next directly.
Just looking at actual college rosters tells you its not 50/50 between MLS Next and ECNL for boys
Anonymous
03/23/2025 18:20
Subject: Re:New Club Search Season Full Swing
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Leaving current club for club that knows what they are doing for boys college recruiting. And puts investment there. A club that walks the talk and has results and relationships. At younger years this is less important. By U-15 it matters and too many clubs ride the girls coattails but don’t do anything similar for their boys.
Can you give us some real examples of what the new club is doing to help with tangible college recruiting for boys?
Here is a start…
#1- club leaders know college coaches (local and top programs) and have put time and effort into forming trusted relationships. College coaches take their calls and they are responsive and proactive with recruiting process—engaged vs passive.
#2- they host college coaches onsite for boys (inviting college coaches to practices and/or running scrimmages to invite coaches to watch).
#3 club makes sure boys get into right tournaments to maximize recruiting and also advocate for right bracket placement and/or game times to maximize coach attendance vs leaving to chance
#4 They are savvy with social media and activate assets/exposure to assist with college recruiting.
#6 they know about and advocate for awards /special opportunities for their players (selection games, all conference, ID sessions) that help with ongoing exposure
#7 they do educations sessions on recruiting process- teaching players how to reach out
#8 they invest in technology/ platforms for teams and their players that support recruiting (VEO, hudl/sportsrecruits etc)
#9 they have the receipts great track record of placements specific to boys- overtime.
FYI, I hope you find what you are looking for in a club but I have heard it is 99% on the student athlete being proactive about the schools they want and contacting them.
Not to mention that some 80% (more?) of college recruits are internationals
It’s not 80% but very high on boys side which is why proactive club support and advocacy matters for American players. Plenty of HS kids still getting offers (1000 each year from competitive MLs Next and ECNL teams ) but it’s getting much harder for boys.
Where did you get this 1000 number from?
How many of that 1000 are MLS Next and how many ECNL?
If you google you can find the stats of commitments. In DMV area ECNL and Next are 50/50 in terms of college recruitment (slight advantage to ECNL more recently) with clubs like Richmond, Pipeline, Arlington (ECNL) and Bethesda, DCU, and Armour (Next/MLS) having the lions share of commitments. Next and MLS have a lot that go pro vs college.
If you got the numbers from Instagram, those numbers are corrupt. That account is corrupt and publishes fake data tables to make a it looks like it is compiled ECNL research... The only way to get those numbers are from ECNL and MLS Next directly.
Anonymous
03/21/2025 19:07
Subject: Re:New Club Search Season Full Swing
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Leaving current club for club that knows what they are doing for boys college recruiting. And puts investment there. A club that walks the talk and has results and relationships. At younger years this is less important. By U-15 it matters and too many clubs ride the girls coattails but don’t do anything similar for their boys.
Can you give us some real examples of what the new club is doing to help with tangible college recruiting for boys?
Here is a start…
#1- club leaders know college coaches (local and top programs) and have put time and effort into forming trusted relationships. College coaches take their calls and they are responsive and proactive with recruiting process—engaged vs passive.
#2- they host college coaches onsite for boys (inviting college coaches to practices and/or running scrimmages to invite coaches to watch).
#3 club makes sure boys get into right tournaments to maximize recruiting and also advocate for right bracket placement and/or game times to maximize coach attendance vs leaving to chance
#4 They are savvy with social media and activate assets/exposure to assist with college recruiting.
#6 they know about and advocate for awards /special opportunities for their players (selection games, all conference, ID sessions) that help with ongoing exposure
#7 they do educations sessions on recruiting process- teaching players how to reach out
#8 they invest in technology/ platforms for teams and their players that support recruiting (VEO, hudl/sportsrecruits etc)
#9 they have the receipts great track record of placements specific to boys- overtime.
FYI, I hope you find what you are looking for in a club but I have heard it is 99% on the student athlete being proactive about the schools they want and contacting them.
Not to mention that some 80% (more?) of college recruits are internationals
It’s not 80% but very high on boys side which is why proactive club support and advocacy matters for American players. Plenty of HS kids still getting offers (1000 each year from competitive MLs Next and ECNL teams ) but it’s getting much harder for boys.
Where did you get this 1000 number from?
How many of that 1000 are MLS Next and how many ECNL?
If you google you can find the stats of commitments. In DMV area ECNL and Next are 50/50 in terms of college recruitment (slight advantage to ECNL more recently) with clubs like Richmond, Pipeline, Arlington (ECNL) and Bethesda, DCU, and Armour (Next/MLS) having the lions share of commitments. Next and MLS have a lot that go pro vs college.
Anonymous
03/20/2025 20:49
Subject: Re:New Club Search Season Full Swing
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Leaving current club for club that knows what they are doing for boys college recruiting. And puts investment there. A club that walks the talk and has results and relationships. At younger years this is less important. By U-15 it matters and too many clubs ride the girls coattails but don’t do anything similar for their boys.
Can you give us some real examples of what the new club is doing to help with tangible college recruiting for boys?
Here is a start…
#1- club leaders know college coaches (local and top programs) and have put time and effort into forming trusted relationships. College coaches take their calls and they are responsive and proactive with recruiting process—engaged vs passive.
#2- they host college coaches onsite for boys (inviting college coaches to practices and/or running scrimmages to invite coaches to watch).
#3 club makes sure boys get into right tournaments to maximize recruiting and also advocate for right bracket placement and/or game times to maximize coach attendance vs leaving to chance
#4 They are savvy with social media and activate assets/exposure to assist with college recruiting.
#6 they know about and advocate for awards /special opportunities for their players (selection games, all conference, ID sessions) that help with ongoing exposure
#7 they do educations sessions on recruiting process- teaching players how to reach out
#8 they invest in technology/ platforms for teams and their players that support recruiting (VEO, hudl/sportsrecruits etc)
#9 they have the receipts great track record of placements specific to boys- overtime.
FYI, I hope you find what you are looking for in a club but I have heard it is 99% on the student athlete being proactive about the schools they want and contacting them.
Not to mention that some 80% (more?) of college recruits are internationals
It’s not 80% but very high on boys side which is why proactive club support and advocacy matters for American players. Plenty of HS kids still getting offers (1000 each year from competitive MLs Next and ECNL teams ) but it’s getting much harder for boys.
Where did you get this 1000 number from?
How many of that 1000 are MLS Next and how many ECNL?
Anonymous
03/20/2025 20:10
Subject: New Club Search Season Full Swing
Anonymous wrote:The incoming roster caps aren't helping matters, either.
100% which is why the right coach and club matters for boys in the larger scheme of things. It’s getting harder and engaged club and coach are major advantages. Don’t mistake girl recruiting investment by club as an uplift for boys. Go where they specifically have a strategy and investment for boys. Too many clubs in this area focus exclusively on the girls college and phone it in for boys.
Anonymous
03/20/2025 15:39
Subject: New Club Search Season Full Swing
The incoming roster caps aren't helping matters, either.
Anonymous
03/20/2025 15:13
Subject: Re:New Club Search Season Full Swing
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Leaving current club for club that knows what they are doing for boys college recruiting. And puts investment there. A club that walks the talk and has results and relationships. At younger years this is less important. By U-15 it matters and too many clubs ride the girls coattails but don’t do anything similar for their boys.
Can you give us some real examples of what the new club is doing to help with tangible college recruiting for boys?
Here is a start…
#1- club leaders know college coaches (local and top programs) and have put time and effort into forming trusted relationships. College coaches take their calls and they are responsive and proactive with recruiting process—engaged vs passive.
#2- they host college coaches onsite for boys (inviting college coaches to practices and/or running scrimmages to invite coaches to watch).
#3 club makes sure boys get into right tournaments to maximize recruiting and also advocate for right bracket placement and/or game times to maximize coach attendance vs leaving to chance
#4 They are savvy with social media and activate assets/exposure to assist with college recruiting.
#6 they know about and advocate for awards /special opportunities for their players (selection games, all conference, ID sessions) that help with ongoing exposure
#7 they do educations sessions on recruiting process- teaching players how to reach out
#8 they invest in technology/ platforms for teams and their players that support recruiting (VEO, hudl/sportsrecruits etc)
#9 they have the receipts great track record of placements specific to boys- overtime.
FYI, I hope you find what you are looking for in a club but I have heard it is 99% on the student athlete being proactive about the schools they want and contacting them.
Not to mention that some 80% (more?) of college recruits are internationals
It’s not 80% but very high on boys side which is why proactive club support and advocacy matters for American players. Plenty of HS kids still getting offers (1000 each year from competitive MLs Next and ECNL teams ) but it’s getting much harder for boys.