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Anonymous wrote:What about informed consent and proper dosing? Why does tooth decay get this weird special status as the one disease that deserves to have the drug dumped in the water instead of properly measured and administered by dentists, doctors, and parents?

Move somewhere else if you don't want it. Buy it at CVS, they sell fluoride-free water. I, for one, prefer to keep it in my drinking water as a mother to two kids. I do not want to go back to the first half of the 1900s when we did not have it in our water, but if you want to go back in time to a lower life span, have at it.

There are fair questions to ask - making sure we look at the dose in our water in combination with using fluoride toothpaste, and whether the local region water supply has sufficient fluoride naturally or not.

To be clear, PFAs in our water - I am far more worried about that. Are you familiar with the research on PFA impact on our health? If you want to worry about something, that would be the biggest concern and the MAHA movement is blatantly ignoring it.

What kind of minater ate you? That’s great that you want to dose your kids with fluoride and that you think fluoride increases lifespans. But don’t force it on people who don’t want to risk the IQ-lowereing effects. Fluoride is an industrial byproduct—it’s available basically for free. You can add it. People who don’t want it can’t remove it or buy fluoride free water without spending a lot of money.

Freedom from forced medication is an obvious American value, but you want to force your preferred medicines into wveryone else’s water?? What is wrong with you?

Why are you not commenting on PFAs in drinking water? Why aren't you far more worried about those? It's weird, frankly.

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Anonymous wrote:What about informed consent and proper dosing? Why does tooth decay get this weird special status as the one disease that deserves to have the drug dumped in the water instead of properly measured and administered by dentists, doctors, and parents?

Move somewhere else if you don't want it. Buy it at CVS, they sell fluoride-free water. I, for one, prefer to keep it in my drinking water as a mother to two kids. I do not want to go back to the first half of the 1900s when we did not have it in our water, but if you want to go back in time to a lower life span, have at it.

There are fair questions to ask - making sure we look at the dose in our water in combination with using fluoride toothpaste, and whether the local region water supply has sufficient fluoride naturally or not.

To be clear, PFAs in our water - I am far more worried about that. Are you familiar with the research on PFA impact on our health? If you want to worry about something, that would be the biggest concern and the MAHA movement is blatantly ignoring it.

What kind of minater ate you? That’s great that you want to dose your kids with fluoride and that you think fluoride increases lifespans. But don’t force it on people who don’t want to risk the IQ-lowereing effects. Fluoride is an industrial byproduct—it’s available basically for free. You can add it. People who don’t want it can’t remove it or buy fluoride free water without spending a lot of money.

Freedom from forced medication is an obvious American value, but you want to force your preferred medicines into wveryone else’s water?? What is wrong with you?

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:What about informed consent and proper dosing? Why does tooth decay get this weird special status as the one disease that deserves to have the drug dumped in the water instead of properly measured and administered by dentists, doctors, and parents?

Move somewhere else if you don't want it. Buy it at CVS, they sell fluoride-free water. I, for one, prefer to keep it in my drinking water as a mother to two kids. I do not want to go back to the first half of the 1900s when we did not have it in our water, but if you want to go back in time to a lower life span, have at it.

There are fair questions to ask - making sure we look at the dose in our water in combination with using fluoride toothpaste, and whether the local region water supply has sufficient fluoride naturally or not.

To be clear, PFAs in our water - I am far more worried about that. Are you familiar with the research on PFA impact on our health? If you want to worry about something, that would be the biggest concern and the MAHA movement is blatantly ignoring it.

What kind of minater ate you? That’s great that you want to dose your kids with fluoride and that you think fluoride increases lifespans. But don’t force it on people who don’t want to risk the IQ-lowereing effects. Fluoride is an industrial byproduct—it’s available basically for free. You can add it. People who don’t want it can’t remove it or buy fluoride free water without spending a lot of money.

Freedom from forced medication is an obvious American value, but you want to force your preferred medicines into wveryone else’s water?? What is wrong with you?

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Anonymous wrote:Most things are not the active ingredient in rat poison. Fluoride is. I’m sorry this upsets you. It is what it is.

That literally does not mean anything. Do you understand that? Something can be rat poison and that does not, by default, make it bad for human consumption. Saying this makes you sound unintelligent.

Do you see this? Do you know what the number one active ingredient is? Vitamin D. HORROR!

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Anonymous wrote:What about informed consent and proper dosing? Why does tooth decay get this weird special status as the one disease that deserves to have the drug dumped in the water instead of properly measured and administered by dentists, doctors, and parents?

Move somewhere else if you don't want it. Buy it at CVS, they sell fluoride-free water. I, for one, prefer to keep it in my drinking water as a mother to two kids. I do not want to go back to the first half of the 1900s when we did not have it in our water, but if you want to go back in time to a lower life span, have at it.

There are fair questions to ask - making sure we look at the dose in our water in combination with using fluoride toothpaste, and whether the local region water supply has sufficient fluoride naturally or not.

To be clear, PFAs in our water - I am far more worried about that. Are you familiar with the research on PFA impact on our health? If you want to worry about something, that would be the biggest concern and the MAHA movement is blatantly ignoring it.

What kind of minater ate you? That’s great that you want to dose your kids with fluoride and that you think fluoride increases lifespans. But don’t force it on people who don’t want to risk the IQ-lowereing effects. Fluoride is an industrial byproduct—it’s available basically for free. You can add it. People who don’t want it can’t remove it or buy fluoride free water without spending a lot of money.

Freedom from forced medication is an obvious American value, but you want to force your preferred medicines into wveryone else’s water?? What is wrong with you?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most things are not the active ingredient in rat poison. Fluoride is. I’m sorry this upsets you. It is what it is.

That literally does not mean anything. Do you understand that? Something can be rat poison and that does not, by default, make it bad for human consumption. Saying this makes you sound unintelligent.

Do you see this? Do you know what the number one active ingredient is? Vitamin D. HORROR!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What about informed consent and proper dosing? Why does tooth decay get this weird special status as the one disease that deserves to have the drug dumped in the water instead of properly measured and administered by dentists, doctors, and parents?

Move somewhere else if you don't want it. Buy it at CVS, they sell fluoride-free water. I, for one, prefer to keep it in my drinking water as a mother to two kids. I do not want to go back to the first half of the 1900s when we did not have it in our water, but if you want to go back in time to a lower life span, have at it.

There are fair questions to ask - making sure we look at the dose in our water in combination with using fluoride toothpaste, and whether the local region water supply has sufficient fluoride naturally or not.

To be clear, PFAs in our water - I am far more worried about that. Are you familiar with the research on PFA impact on our health? If you want to worry about something, that would be the biggest concern and the MAHA movement is blatantly ignoring it.

Anonymous wrote:Most things are not the active ingredient in rat poison. Fluoride is. I’m sorry this upsets you. It is what it is.

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Anonymous wrote:They’ve talked at length about getting fluoride and plastics out of water, stopping chem trails, decreasing plastics and moving back to glass, etc etc

I work in healthcare and have a friend who is a dentist. Getting fluoride out of water, unless the water is already naturally high in fluoride, is really based on poor thinking. Research showing fluoride impacts IQ tests is based on many magnitudes of higher fluroide dosage than we actually have in our drinking water. Meanwhile, you'll see dentist's make a killing, increased usage of antibiotics to treat infections (which only breeds more antibiotic resistant infections - we already have bacteria resistant to nearly everything in the US), and increased rare diseases like endocarditis (infection of heart valves that lead to embolic cardiovascular events) thanks to removing fluoride.

Are you saying fluoride kills bacteria? I thought it just strengthened teeth? If fluoride can kill living things, we probably shouldn’t be dosing our kids with it nonstop

Are you intentionally trying to troll or actually this stupid?

I’m asking a serious question. The PP is saying we’ll have lots of new infections if we don’t keep adding fluoride to the water supply. Is that right? And if fluoride DOES kill bacteria (and rats) instead of just hardening teeth, should we treat it more like a drug, where we control doses to balance the benefits and risks, instead of just putting it in the water?

What's with the pseudoscience rat poison and killing bacteria comment? Vitamin D is rat poison. You going to remove that from your diet? How about sodium chloride? It's bacteriocidal and also sold as a corrosive at Home Depot. Stop falling for people making these comments ("it's rat poison!" "it's sold at Home Depot as xxxxx sounding horrible chemical!") as a rationale for why something is bad or not.

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Anonymous wrote:They’ve talked at length about getting fluoride and plastics out of water, stopping chem trails, decreasing plastics and moving back to glass, etc etc

I work in healthcare and have a friend who is a dentist. Getting fluoride out of water, unless the water is already naturally high in fluoride, is really based on poor thinking. Research showing fluoride impacts IQ tests is based on many magnitudes of higher fluroide dosage than we actually have in our drinking water. Meanwhile, you'll see dentist's make a killing, increased usage of antibiotics to treat infections (which only breeds more antibiotic resistant infections - we already have bacteria resistant to nearly everything in the US), and increased rare diseases like endocarditis (infection of heart valves that lead to embolic cardiovascular events) thanks to removing fluoride.

Are you saying fluoride kills bacteria? I thought it just strengthened teeth? If fluoride can kill living things, we probably shouldn’t be dosing our kids with it nonstop

Are you intentionally trying to troll or actually this stupid?

I’m asking a serious question. The PP is saying we’ll have lots of new infections if we don’t keep adding fluoride to the water supply. Is that right? And if fluoride DOES kill bacteria (and rats) instead of just hardening teeth, should we treat it more like a drug, where we control doses to balance the benefits and risks, instead of just putting it in the water?

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Anonymous wrote:They’ve talked at length about getting fluoride and plastics out of water, stopping chem trails, decreasing plastics and moving back to glass, etc etc

I work in healthcare and have a friend who is a dentist. Getting fluoride out of water, unless the water is already naturally high in fluoride, is really based on poor thinking. Research showing fluoride impacts IQ tests is based on many magnitudes of higher fluroide dosage than we actually have in our drinking water. Meanwhile, you'll see dentist's make a killing, increased usage of antibiotics to treat infections (which only breeds more antibiotic resistant infections - we already have bacteria resistant to nearly everything in the US), and increased rare diseases like endocarditis (infection of heart valves that lead to embolic cardiovascular events) thanks to removing fluoride.

Are you saying fluoride kills bacteria? I thought it just strengthened teeth? If fluoride can kill living things, we probably shouldn’t be dosing our kids with it nonstop

Are you intentionally trying to troll or actually this stupid?

I’m asking a serious question. The PP is saying we’ll have lots of new infections if we don’t keep adding fluoride to the water supply. Is that right? And if fluoride DOES kill bacteria (and rats) instead of just hardening teeth, should we treat it more like a drug, where we control doses to balance the benefits and risks, instead of just putting it in the water?

We do control dose, dose given is far lower than in research studies being used as "evidence" for removing it, and see what happened in Calgary when they removed it - they added it back. Yes because of increased rates of caries. Tooth decay leads to infection and yes they saw increased kids requiring antibiotics including IV antibiotics.

+1. Fluoride strengthens teeth and makes them less prone to decay. Decayed teeth can easily become painful, infected teeth, and then painful, infected jaws, and can lead to sepsis.

People may not know this because we our insurance system pretends that teeth are separate from the body, but an infected tooth can kill you. I had one relative die and another come dangerously close to it because of an improperly treated tooth infection. The one that didn’t die had his heart nearly destroyed and has been suffering the consequences ever since. You don’t mess around when it comes to kids teeth.

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Anonymous wrote:What about informed consent and proper dosing? Why does tooth decay get this weird special status as the one disease that deserves to have the drug dumped in the water instead of properly measured and administered by dentists, doctors, and parents?

Move somewhere else if you don't want it. Buy it at CVS, they sell fluoride-free water. I, for one, prefer to keep it in my drinking water as a mother to two kids. I do not want to go back to the first half of the 1900s when we did not have it in our water, but if you want to go back in time to a lower life span, have at it.

There are fair questions to ask - making sure we look at the dose in our water in combination with using fluoride toothpaste, and whether the local region water supply has sufficient fluoride naturally or not.

To be clear, PFAs in our water - I am far more worried about that. Are you familiar with the research on PFA impact on our health? If you want to worry about something, that would be the biggest concern and the MAHA movement is blatantly ignoring it.

Every administration in the PFA era has ignored it. Every Democrat at FDA and EPA has ignored it. Yes I’m worried about it. And yes I agree that MAHA won’t end up prioritizing it correctly. But MAHA is the closest we’ve seen in 50 years to caring about the human impacts of corporate toxins. If you care about PFAs you are better off with MAHA than with Admiral Rachel Levine or any health czar or administration in the PFA era.