Anonymous wrote:I don't know why I'm responding, but I will this last time. I think that description is from AI. If you go to the AKC website and look up the Standard Poodle, that is not how the coat is described.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have a brown poodle, and he's very soft (the guard hairs are definitely wiry). I think a lot of it has to do with genetics, and the breeder can give you an idea of the coat to expect. Poodle puppies do go through a coat change as they grow into their adult coat. Some people think certain color poodles are known for having particular textures; I dont know if I believe that. Also, interestingly, many brown, black, and blue poodles have a progressive graying gene which causes their coats to lighten significantly, sometimes changing to apricot or grey. This usually happens around 2-3 yrs old. I feel lucky; my guy is brown and hasn't faded at all.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have a standard poodle and his coat is soft like butter. Maybe the miniature and toy ones are different?Anonymous wrote:We have a multigenerational Australian Labradoodle. He has a fleece coat, not wiry and curly like poodles. Fleece coats are easier to maintain. Multigenerational doodles give you more consistency in coat, appearance, and other characteristics than other earlier generations of dogs that are bred. Usually doodle breeders specialize in a specific generation of doodles and that's why many doodle owners's dog does not match the expectations they had. We needed a non-shedding dog because of allergies and asthma. Had we not had these issues, we would have gotten a lab or a golden. Our doodle was easy to train and a good family dog. We got him through Good Day Doodles in North Carolina. I received far more information on my dog's development before he came to us and instructions on what to do when we brought him home than I did my child, plus genetic testing and a copy of his family tree. I also received a call 2 days after he came home to see how we were doing. He is groomed every 2 months. His bath, brush, and blowdry and trim is $75, haircut is $140. He only gets 1-2 haircuts per year. I tip on top of that. He was a pandemic puppy and so we used an online training company, Bella and Baxter, which I highly recommend. Online classes, structured curriculum, blog, live one-on-one and group sessions with a trainer available as well. The head of the company is a former teacher and so I appreciated the checklists, structured curriculum, and support. He is a good boy and I attribute our breeder with helping to put us on a positive path to success. Doodles are designer dogs and are in high demand, so buyer beware, and good luck!
Soft is technically incorrect coat for a poodle.
From AKC standard for poodle coat :
Curly: of naturally harsh texture, dense throughout
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have a rescue toy poodle who turned out to be a doodle when we did a dna test -- she's 75% poodle and 25% bichon/maltese. She's perfect.
That said, please don't buy a doodle. The amount of suffering my dog experienced in the puppy mill she was rescued from is horrific. There are few if any reputable doodle breeders. The short of it is that dog breeding is very expensive to do if you are caring properly for the dogs, and so those doing it for the right reasons don't make much money; they are breeding for the love of the breed standard. There is no breed standard for doodles, they are essentially mutts, and there is huge money to be made, so the dogs are treated terribly. Don't be a part of that.
If you must buy a dog rather than rescue, look at actual poodles, or goldens, or whatever.
The problem is tht rescues and shelters are nothing but pitbulls.
It is impossible to find a smaller breed mixed puppy that has zero pitbull in them, without going through a breeder.
This is 100% pure bs, and a quick look at local shelter and rescue websites confirms it. I've adopted two "zero pit" small breed dogs from shelters in the past 5 years. You're not trying hard enough, lazy pp.
Post links to prove it, PP.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have a rescue toy poodle who turned out to be a doodle when we did a dna test -- she's 75% poodle and 25% bichon/maltese. She's perfect.
That said, please don't buy a doodle. The amount of suffering my dog experienced in the puppy mill she was rescued from is horrific. There are few if any reputable doodle breeders. The short of it is that dog breeding is very expensive to do if you are caring properly for the dogs, and so those doing it for the right reasons don't make much money; they are breeding for the love of the breed standard. There is no breed standard for doodles, they are essentially mutts, and there is huge money to be made, so the dogs are treated terribly. Don't be a part of that.
If you must buy a dog rather than rescue, look at actual poodles, or goldens, or whatever.
The problem is tht rescues and shelters are nothing but pitbulls.
It is impossible to find a smaller breed mixed puppy that has zero pitbull in them, without going through a breeder.
This is 100% pure bs, and a quick look at local shelter and rescue websites confirms it. I've adopted two "zero pit" small breed dogs from shelters in the past 5 years. You're not trying hard enough, lazy pp.
I don't know why I'm responding, but I will this last time. I think that description is from AI. If you go to the AKC website and look up the Standard Poodle, that is not how the coat is described.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have a brown poodle, and he's very soft (the guard hairs are definitely wiry). I think a lot of it has to do with genetics, and the breeder can give you an idea of the coat to expect. Poodle puppies do go through a coat change as they grow into their adult coat. Some people think certain color poodles are known for having particular textures; I dont know if I believe that. Also, interestingly, many brown, black, and blue poodles have a progressive graying gene which causes their coats to lighten significantly, sometimes changing to apricot or grey. This usually happens around 2-3 yrs old. I feel lucky; my guy is brown and hasn't faded at all.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have a standard poodle and his coat is soft like butter. Maybe the miniature and toy ones are different?Anonymous wrote:We have a multigenerational Australian Labradoodle. He has a fleece coat, not wiry and curly like poodles. Fleece coats are easier to maintain. Multigenerational doodles give you more consistency in coat, appearance, and other characteristics than other earlier generations of dogs that are bred. Usually doodle breeders specialize in a specific generation of doodles and that's why many doodle owners's dog does not match the expectations they had. We needed a non-shedding dog because of allergies and asthma. Had we not had these issues, we would have gotten a lab or a golden. Our doodle was easy to train and a good family dog. We got him through Good Day Doodles in North Carolina. I received far more information on my dog's development before he came to us and instructions on what to do when we brought him home than I did my child, plus genetic testing and a copy of his family tree. I also received a call 2 days after he came home to see how we were doing. He is groomed every 2 months. His bath, brush, and blowdry and trim is $75, haircut is $140. He only gets 1-2 haircuts per year. I tip on top of that. He was a pandemic puppy and so we used an online training company, Bella and Baxter, which I highly recommend. Online classes, structured curriculum, blog, live one-on-one and group sessions with a trainer available as well. The head of the company is a former teacher and so I appreciated the checklists, structured curriculum, and support. He is a good boy and I attribute our breeder with helping to put us on a positive path to success. Doodles are designer dogs and are in high demand, so buyer beware, and good luck!
Soft is technically incorrect coat for a poodle.
From AKC standard for poodle coat :
Curly: of naturally harsh texture, dense throughout
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Doodles are at the fairfax co shelter every day. They almost outnumber the pitts. I would reconsider your dog choice.
No they are not.
The Fairfax animal shelter is 99% pitbull or pitbull mix, with a random elderly non pitbull dog who needs a new home because their elderly owner died or went into a home.
There are seldom any desireable breeds in the Fairfax animal shelter, and never a great breed liike poodle mixes or goldens (unless they are senior dogs)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have a rescue toy poodle who turned out to be a doodle when we did a dna test -- she's 75% poodle and 25% bichon/maltese. She's perfect.
That said, please don't buy a doodle. The amount of suffering my dog experienced in the puppy mill she was rescued from is horrific. There are few if any reputable doodle breeders. The short of it is that dog breeding is very expensive to do if you are caring properly for the dogs, and so those doing it for the right reasons don't make much money; they are breeding for the love of the breed standard. There is no breed standard for doodles, they are essentially mutts, and there is huge money to be made, so the dogs are treated terribly. Don't be a part of that.
If you must buy a dog rather than rescue, look at actual poodles, or goldens, or whatever.
The problem is tht rescues and shelters are nothing but pitbulls.
It is impossible to find a smaller breed mixed puppy that has zero pitbull in them, without going through a breeder.
Anonymous wrote:Doodles are at the fairfax co shelter every day. They almost outnumber the pitts. I would reconsider your dog choice.
Anonymous wrote:I have a rescue toy poodle who turned out to be a doodle when we did a dna test -- she's 75% poodle and 25% bichon/maltese. She's perfect.
That said, please don't buy a doodle. The amount of suffering my dog experienced in the puppy mill she was rescued from is horrific. There are few if any reputable doodle breeders. The short of it is that dog breeding is very expensive to do if you are caring properly for the dogs, and so those doing it for the right reasons don't make much money; they are breeding for the love of the breed standard. There is no breed standard for doodles, they are essentially mutts, and there is huge money to be made, so the dogs are treated terribly. Don't be a part of that.
If you must buy a dog rather than rescue, look at actual poodles, or goldens, or whatever.
Anonymous wrote:I have a brown poodle, and he's very soft (the guard hairs are definitely wiry). I think a lot of it has to do with genetics, and the breeder can give you an idea of the coat to expect. Poodle puppies do go through a coat change as they grow into their adult coat. Some people think certain color poodles are known for having particular textures; I dont know if I believe that. Also, interestingly, many brown, black, and blue poodles have a progressive graying gene which causes their coats to lighten significantly, sometimes changing to apricot or grey. This usually happens around 2-3 yrs old. I feel lucky; my guy is brown and hasn't faded at all.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have a standard poodle and his coat is soft like butter. Maybe the miniature and toy ones are different?Anonymous wrote:We have a multigenerational Australian Labradoodle. He has a fleece coat, not wiry and curly like poodles. Fleece coats are easier to maintain. Multigenerational doodles give you more consistency in coat, appearance, and other characteristics than other earlier generations of dogs that are bred. Usually doodle breeders specialize in a specific generation of doodles and that's why many doodle owners's dog does not match the expectations they had. We needed a non-shedding dog because of allergies and asthma. Had we not had these issues, we would have gotten a lab or a golden. Our doodle was easy to train and a good family dog. We got him through Good Day Doodles in North Carolina. I received far more information on my dog's development before he came to us and instructions on what to do when we brought him home than I did my child, plus genetic testing and a copy of his family tree. I also received a call 2 days after he came home to see how we were doing. He is groomed every 2 months. His bath, brush, and blowdry and trim is $75, haircut is $140. He only gets 1-2 haircuts per year. I tip on top of that. He was a pandemic puppy and so we used an online training company, Bella and Baxter, which I highly recommend. Online classes, structured curriculum, blog, live one-on-one and group sessions with a trainer available as well. The head of the company is a former teacher and so I appreciated the checklists, structured curriculum, and support. He is a good boy and I attribute our breeder with helping to put us on a positive path to success. Doodles are designer dogs and are in high demand, so buyer beware, and good luck!
Soft is technically incorrect coat for a poodle.
Anonymous wrote:Doodles are at the fairfax co shelter every day. They almost outnumber the pitts. I would reconsider your dog choice.
I have a brown poodle, and he's very soft (the guard hairs are definitely wiry). I think a lot of it has to do with genetics, and the breeder can give you an idea of the coat to expect. Poodle puppies do go through a coat change as they grow into their adult coat. Some people think certain color poodles are known for having particular textures; I dont know if I believe that. Also, interestingly, many brown, black, and blue poodles have a progressive graying gene which causes their coats to lighten significantly, sometimes changing to apricot or grey. This usually happens around 2-3 yrs old. I feel lucky; my guy is brown and hasn't faded at all.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have a standard poodle and his coat is soft like butter. Maybe the miniature and toy ones are different?Anonymous wrote:We have a multigenerational Australian Labradoodle. He has a fleece coat, not wiry and curly like poodles. Fleece coats are easier to maintain. Multigenerational doodles give you more consistency in coat, appearance, and other characteristics than other earlier generations of dogs that are bred. Usually doodle breeders specialize in a specific generation of doodles and that's why many doodle owners's dog does not match the expectations they had. We needed a non-shedding dog because of allergies and asthma. Had we not had these issues, we would have gotten a lab or a golden. Our doodle was easy to train and a good family dog. We got him through Good Day Doodles in North Carolina. I received far more information on my dog's development before he came to us and instructions on what to do when we brought him home than I did my child, plus genetic testing and a copy of his family tree. I also received a call 2 days after he came home to see how we were doing. He is groomed every 2 months. His bath, brush, and blowdry and trim is $75, haircut is $140. He only gets 1-2 haircuts per year. I tip on top of that. He was a pandemic puppy and so we used an online training company, Bella and Baxter, which I highly recommend. Online classes, structured curriculum, blog, live one-on-one and group sessions with a trainer available as well. The head of the company is a former teacher and so I appreciated the checklists, structured curriculum, and support. He is a good boy and I attribute our breeder with helping to put us on a positive path to success. Doodles are designer dogs and are in high demand, so buyer beware, and good luck!
Soft is technically incorrect coat for a poodle.