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Post 02/27/2025 12:15     Subject: What does your religion or faith give you…

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Anonymous wrote:I'm an atheist so have that as a baseline, but my faith in my belief that God does not exist is a belief in myself and there are scientific reasons that we as people are here on this particular planet.

My husband is Hindu. He argues with me that God / Faith to him is the explanation that we do not know why and how we are here.

I still think there is an answer, we just do not know that reason yet.


Do you think that humans will ever know the reasons we're here? And if so, how do you think we'll find out?


You have presupposed that there are "reasons". Or, at a minimum, you should define "reasons".


Please change “reasons” to “why” and respond. Thanks.


You have presupposed that there is a "why".
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2025 10:40     Subject: What does your religion or faith give you…

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Anonymous wrote:I'm an atheist so have that as a baseline, but my faith in my belief that God does not exist is a belief in myself and there are scientific reasons that we as people are here on this particular planet.

My husband is Hindu. He argues with me that God / Faith to him is the explanation that we do not know why and how we are here.

I still think there is an answer, we just do not know that reason yet.


Do you think that humans will ever know the reasons we're here? And if so, how do you think we'll find out?


You have presupposed that there are "reasons". Or, at a minimum, you should define "reasons".


Please change “reasons” to “why” and respond. Thanks.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2025 09:39     Subject: What does your religion or faith give you…

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Anonymous wrote:Guidance for ethics and morality that enabled western civilization.


This is so funny. I am reading “The Shortest History of Europe” by John Hirst and it is page after page of horrific and immoral things done in the name of religion. And assuming you speak of Christianity, the Bible is also full of immoral things and endorses slavery, incest, mass murder, and scores of other atrocities. It’s a highly immoral book.


Alright. Enjoy your life without the ethics and morality promoted by Christ.

By the way, slavery has always existed and exists today with more people currently enslaved than any other time in history. Slavery was only abolished in large scale when the white Christian men who held power decided to do so in the name of biblical principles.



WRONG!!!!!

The Curse of Ham (Genesis 9:18–27) was a passage particularly used by Christian slave owners to justify their enslavement of black people.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_slavery

The Bible not only endorses slavery, it tells you who to enslave, how to do it, and how you can beat them. Pro tip from the Bible: beat your slaves so they don’t die and you can avoid punishment.


Wrong again dear.

Christianity is a Jewish cult and as such has different beliefs, primarily the divinity of Christ who taught that all people were equal in the eyes of god.

Because of this many early Christians were slaves and women (who were essentially slaves then).

But please go on denying history, although it doesn’t sound like your ignorance is making very happy or content.


If Christianity teaches that all people are equal then why are gays persecuted for example ? Why are there version the Bible (Corinthians ) that say not to eat or be around people that are doing certain things ? Why are so many looked down on by “Christians” that are following the Bible to the letter? You can’t count people that are ignoring many parts of the Bible in favor of the lovey dovey stuff that most human beings would do without an ancient book telling them to


It’s not gay people, it is sinful actions. Just as someone choses to engage in stealing, adultery, murder, or rape.

It is really interesting what you believe “most human beings would do without an ancient book”.

Do you have any understanding of pre-Christian societies which were not shaped by Christian morality? Where women were property and infanticide and slavery were common? Anthropologically and historically the concepts “equality” and “human rights” are extremely rare.


Seriously? Women were considered property for a long time after Christianity. It was only in the 20th century that women could have their own credit cards.


Of course. And the only reason why women have “equal rights” today is because of the uniquely Christian moral belief that all people have value and are equal in the eyes of god.


Goddamn I hope this is sarcasm.


Do you think that “equality” is some type of inherent natural shared belief? Genuinely puzzled by your naïveté.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2025 09:35     Subject: What does your religion or faith give you…

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Anonymous wrote:I'm an atheist so have that as a baseline, but my faith in my belief that God does not exist is a belief in myself and there are scientific reasons that we as people are here on this particular planet.

My husband is Hindu. He argues with me that God / Faith to him is the explanation that we do not know why and how we are here.

I still think there is an answer, we just do not know that reason yet.


Do you think that humans will ever know the reasons we're here? And if so, how do you think we'll find out?


You have presupposed that there are "reasons". Or, at a minimum, you should define "reasons".
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2025 09:00     Subject: Re:What does your religion or faith give you…

Peace.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2025 08:36     Subject: What does your religion or faith give you…

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Anonymous wrote:Guidance for ethics and morality that enabled western civilization.


This is so funny. I am reading “The Shortest History of Europe” by John Hirst and it is page after page of horrific and immoral things done in the name of religion. And assuming you speak of Christianity, the Bible is also full of immoral things and endorses slavery, incest, mass murder, and scores of other atrocities. It’s a highly immoral book.


You do realize that you aren't supposed to read that history part and think, "Oh, I should go sell my daughters because someone in the Old Testament did that."

It's not a step-by-step self-help how to live kind of text.

Also no one would ever argue that people have not and continue to do terrible things in the bastardized name of religions. People get things very wrong all the time.


Correct - and it sounds like you learned, and accepted, that there's much in the Bible that should be ignored, but that you still think that it's full of wisdom. Correct?
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2025 08:32     Subject: What does your religion or faith give you…

Anonymous wrote:I'm an atheist so have that as a baseline, but my faith in my belief that God does not exist is a belief in myself and there are scientific reasons that we as people are here on this particular planet.

My husband is Hindu. He argues with me that God / Faith to him is the explanation that we do not know why and how we are here.

I still think there is an answer, we just do not know that reason yet.


Do you think that humans will ever know the reasons we're here? And if so, how do you think we'll find out?
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2025 23:39     Subject: What does your religion or faith give you…

I'm an atheist so have that as a baseline, but my faith in my belief that God does not exist is a belief in myself and there are scientific reasons that we as people are here on this particular planet.

My husband is Hindu. He argues with me that God / Faith to him is the explanation that we do not know why and how we are here.

I still think there is an answer, we just do not know that reason yet.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2025 20:29     Subject: What does your religion or faith give you…

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Anonymous wrote:It gives me total freedom from worry and anxiety, and also no pressure to achieve goals. I don’t have to prove anything to anyone, including myself. This means all my energy can just be on enjoying the experience of life.


How does your religion do this for you?


Sorry— I didn’t get a chance to respond until now. My religion helps me to understand that life is nothing but an experience— and how I experience life is up to me. I choose how I react to life. I can choose to react to events with worry and anxiety, or I can choose to not. I can choose to feel like I need to achieve goals— or I can choose to not. I can choose to be self-critical because I want to meet some external standard; or I can choose to constantly strive to be better just because that makes for an even better experience.


Thanks. This sounds like a good philosophy, but not religious, because you didn't mention anything about the promise of an afterlife.


Not all religions require a belief in the afterlife.


Which religions don't have a belief in an afterlife?
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2025 18:57     Subject: What does your religion or faith give you…

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Anonymous wrote:It gives me total freedom from worry and anxiety, and also no pressure to achieve goals. I don’t have to prove anything to anyone, including myself. This means all my energy can just be on enjoying the experience of life.


How does your religion do this for you?


Sorry— I didn’t get a chance to respond until now. My religion helps me to understand that life is nothing but an experience— and how I experience life is up to me. I choose how I react to life. I can choose to react to events with worry and anxiety, or I can choose to not. I can choose to feel like I need to achieve goals— or I can choose to not. I can choose to be self-critical because I want to meet some external standard; or I can choose to constantly strive to be better just because that makes for an even better experience.


Thanks. This sounds like a good philosophy, but not religious, because you didn't mention anything about the promise of an afterlife.


Not all religions require a belief in the afterlife.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2025 16:47     Subject: What does your religion or faith give you…

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Anonymous wrote:It gives me total freedom from worry and anxiety, and also no pressure to achieve goals. I don’t have to prove anything to anyone, including myself. This means all my energy can just be on enjoying the experience of life.


How does your religion do this for you?


Sorry— I didn’t get a chance to respond until now. My religion helps me to understand that life is nothing but an experience— and how I experience life is up to me. I choose how I react to life. I can choose to react to events with worry and anxiety, or I can choose to not. I can choose to feel like I need to achieve goals— or I can choose to not. I can choose to be self-critical because I want to meet some external standard; or I can choose to constantly strive to be better just because that makes for an even better experience.


Thanks. This sounds like a good philosophy, but not religious, because you didn't mention anything about the promise of an afterlife.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2025 16:42     Subject: What does your religion or faith give you…

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It gives me total freedom from worry and anxiety, and also no pressure to achieve goals. I don’t have to prove anything to anyone, including myself. This means all my energy can just be on enjoying the experience of life.


How does your religion do this for you?


Sorry— I didn’t get a chance to respond until now. My religion helps me to understand that life is nothing but an experience— and how I experience life is up to me. I choose how I react to life. I can choose to react to events with worry and anxiety, or I can choose to not. I can choose to feel like I need to achieve goals— or I can choose to not. I can choose to be self-critical because I want to meet some external standard; or I can choose to constantly strive to be better just because that makes for an even better experience.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2025 16:35     Subject: What does your religion or faith give you…

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Guidance for ethics and morality that enabled western civilization.


This is so funny. I am reading “The Shortest History of Europe” by John Hirst and it is page after page of horrific and immoral things done in the name of religion. And assuming you speak of Christianity, the Bible is also full of immoral things and endorses slavery, incest, mass murder, and scores of other atrocities. It’s a highly immoral book.


You do realize that you aren't supposed to read that history part and think, "Oh, I should go sell my daughters because someone in the Old Testament did that."

It's not a step-by-step self-help how to live kind of text.

Also no one would ever argue that people have not and continue to do terrible things in the bastardized name of religions. People get things very wrong all the time.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2025 16:25     Subject: What does your religion or faith give you…

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Guidance for ethics and morality that enabled western civilization.


This is so funny. I am reading “The Shortest History of Europe” by John Hirst and it is page after page of horrific and immoral things done in the name of religion. And assuming you speak of Christianity, the Bible is also full of immoral things and endorses slavery, incest, mass murder, and scores of other atrocities. It’s a highly immoral book.


Alright. Enjoy your life without the ethics and morality promoted by Christ.

By the way, slavery has always existed and exists today with more people currently enslaved than any other time in history. Slavery was only abolished in large scale when the white Christian men who held power decided to do so in the name of biblical principles.



WRONG!!!!!

The Curse of Ham (Genesis 9:18–27) was a passage particularly used by Christian slave owners to justify their enslavement of black people.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_slavery

The Bible not only endorses slavery, it tells you who to enslave, how to do it, and how you can beat them. Pro tip from the Bible: beat your slaves so they don’t die and you can avoid punishment.


Wrong again dear.

Christianity is a Jewish cult and as such has different beliefs, primarily the divinity of Christ who taught that all people were equal in the eyes of god.

Because of this many early Christians were slaves and women (who were essentially slaves then).

But please go on denying history, although it doesn’t sound like your ignorance is making very happy or content.


If Christianity teaches that all people are equal then why are gays persecuted for example ? Why are there version the Bible (Corinthians ) that say not to eat or be around people that are doing certain things ? Why are so many looked down on by “Christians” that are following the Bible to the letter? You can’t count people that are ignoring many parts of the Bible in favor of the lovey dovey stuff that most human beings would do without an ancient book telling them to


It’s not gay people, it is sinful actions. Just as someone choses to engage in stealing, adultery, murder, or rape.

It is really interesting what you believe “most human beings would do without an ancient book”.

Do you have any understanding of pre-Christian societies which were not shaped by Christian morality? Where women were property and infanticide and slavery were common? Anthropologically and historically the concepts “equality” and “human rights” are extremely rare.


Seriously? Women were considered property for a long time after Christianity. It was only in the 20th century that women could have their own credit cards.


Of course. And the only reason why women have “equal rights” today is because of the uniquely Christian moral belief that all people have value and are equal in the eyes of god.


Goddamn I hope this is sarcasm.


Me too. If not, I wonder why God waited so long.


Because there is no God.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2025 11:06     Subject: What does your religion or faith give you…

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Guidance for ethics and morality that enabled western civilization.


This is so funny. I am reading “The Shortest History of Europe” by John Hirst and it is page after page of horrific and immoral things done in the name of religion. And assuming you speak of Christianity, the Bible is also full of immoral things and endorses slavery, incest, mass murder, and scores of other atrocities. It’s a highly immoral book.


Alright. Enjoy your life without the ethics and morality promoted by Christ.

By the way, slavery has always existed and exists today with more people currently enslaved than any other time in history. Slavery was only abolished in large scale when the white Christian men who held power decided to do so in the name of biblical principles.



WRONG!!!!!

The Curse of Ham (Genesis 9:18–27) was a passage particularly used by Christian slave owners to justify their enslavement of black people.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_slavery

The Bible not only endorses slavery, it tells you who to enslave, how to do it, and how you can beat them. Pro tip from the Bible: beat your slaves so they don’t die and you can avoid punishment.


Wrong again dear.

Christianity is a Jewish cult and as such has different beliefs, primarily the divinity of Christ who taught that all people were equal in the eyes of god.

Because of this many early Christians were slaves and women (who were essentially slaves then).

But please go on denying history, although it doesn’t sound like your ignorance is making very happy or content.


If Christianity teaches that all people are equal then why are gays persecuted for example ? Why are there version the Bible (Corinthians ) that say not to eat or be around people that are doing certain things ? Why are so many looked down on by “Christians” that are following the Bible to the letter? You can’t count people that are ignoring many parts of the Bible in favor of the lovey dovey stuff that most human beings would do without an ancient book telling them to


It’s not gay people, it is sinful actions. Just as someone choses to engage in stealing, adultery, murder, or rape.

It is really interesting what you believe “most human beings would do without an ancient book”.

Do you have any understanding of pre-Christian societies which were not shaped by Christian morality? Where women were property and infanticide and slavery were common? Anthropologically and historically the concepts “equality” and “human rights” are extremely rare.


Seriously? Women were considered property for a long time after Christianity. It was only in the 20th century that women could have their own credit cards.


Of course. And the only reason why women have “equal rights” today is because of the uniquely Christian moral belief that all people have value and are equal in the eyes of god.


Goddamn I hope this is sarcasm.


Me too. If not, I wonder why God waited so long.