If the kid needs more practice to learn grade level material perhaps they should be doing that work?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The system is much better now. Back when it was pullout the GT teachers gatekeeped to keep their caseloads small, and they left out a lot of kids who should have been identified.
My kid was overlooked. When I parent referred, they tested so high even the principal was wondering how they were missed.
Exactly. There can be a lot of reasons why a kid isn't identified. Why gate keep? That doesn't serve anyone.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can someone tell me what the gifted kids are offered compared to the other kids in the classroom?
For my dd: In elementary it was mostly required extension work that was optional for the general class, a book “club” with the gifted cluster, and some required projects. In middle it was intensified classes, which are available to all but gifted kids are guided to take. In hs (she is a freshman now) it is choices of intensified, AP, and DE classes plus the Capstone program. Gifted kids receive a letter before choosing classes to point out which classes are appropriately challenging, but the choice is theirs.
I wish people wouldn't give old information. APS doesn't allow small group differentiation any more for those tagged as gifted. It's considered inequitable. Only whole class activities are permitted. So no more gifted book clubs, math groups or other extra projects in elementary.
It’s unclear where you are getting your information. Here is a sample differentiation report from this year.
https://innovation.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/sites/50/2024/11/Q1-Differentiation-Report-SY24-25.pdf
They are pulling it out of their MAGA a-hole.
There are extra book clubs, math groups, and projects. The difference now is that they are open to all kids who want to join, not just those who are tagged.
If an NFL team lets a bunch of high schoolers join them, they’re no longer playing at an elite level.
You want to gate keep out the engaged, bright kids who enjoy a subject just because they didn’t do quite as well one day in 2nd grade on a screening test?
GTFO.
They test at least twice and there are parent and teacher referrals for anyone who tests poorly.
Ok....
You want to gate keep out the engaged, bright kids who enjoy a subject even if they aren't tagged GT for whatever reason?
Why is that?
Anonymous wrote:The system is much better now. Back when it was pullout the GT teachers gatekeeped to keep their caseloads small, and they left out a lot of kids who should have been identified.
My kid was overlooked. When I parent referred, they tested so high even the principal was wondering how they were missed.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can someone tell me what the gifted kids are offered compared to the other kids in the classroom?
For my dd: In elementary it was mostly required extension work that was optional for the general class, a book “club” with the gifted cluster, and some required projects. In middle it was intensified classes, which are available to all but gifted kids are guided to take. In hs (she is a freshman now) it is choices of intensified, AP, and DE classes plus the Capstone program. Gifted kids receive a letter before choosing classes to point out which classes are appropriately challenging, but the choice is theirs.
I wish people wouldn't give old information. APS doesn't allow small group differentiation any more for those tagged as gifted. It's considered inequitable. Only whole class activities are permitted. So no more gifted book clubs, math groups or other extra projects in elementary.
It’s unclear where you are getting your information. Here is a sample differentiation report from this year.
https://innovation.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/sites/50/2024/11/Q1-Differentiation-Report-SY24-25.pdf
They are pulling it out of their MAGA a-hole.
There are extra book clubs, math groups, and projects. The difference now is that they are open to all kids who want to join, not just those who are tagged.
If an NFL team lets a bunch of high schoolers join them, they’re no longer playing at an elite level.
You want to gate keep out the engaged, bright kids who enjoy a subject just because they didn’t do quite as well one day in 2nd grade on a screening test?
GTFO.
They test at least twice and there are parent and teacher referrals for anyone who tests poorly.
Anonymous wrote:Basically the whole school year. We referred after the fall teacher conference and found out he was eligible just before school ended in June. But, that was several years ago, and it may vary by school.
Anonymous wrote:The system is much better now. Back when it was pullout the GT teachers gatekeeped to keep their caseloads small, and they left out a lot of kids who should have been identified.
My kid was overlooked. When I parent referred, they tested so high even the principal was wondering how they were missed.
Anonymous wrote:Realistically, you guys are the problem. Statistically, only 5-6% of kids are gifted. In a class of 25 that would be only 1-2 kids. However, the stereotypical Arlington parent believes their child is a genius, and if not identified, throws a fit to the administration. Hence the “parent referrals” and increasing inclusiveness. They do it to shut you guys up. And now that you’re in, you complain that it’s open to everyone, not specific enough. Your right to a public education does not entitle you to the “best” education possible. It guarantees your kid receive a baseline 12th grade education. If you want better, go pay for private school.
Anonymous wrote:The system is much better now. Back when it was pullout the GT teachers gatekeeped to keep their caseloads small, and they left out a lot of kids who should have been identified.
My kid was overlooked. When I parent referred, they tested so high even the principal was wondering how they were missed.
Anonymous wrote:Realistically, you guys are the problem. Statistically, only 5-6% of kids are gifted. In a class of 25 that would be only 1-2 kids. However, the stereotypical Arlington parent believes their child is a genius, and if not identified, throws a fit to the administration. Hence the “parent referrals” and increasing inclusiveness. They do it to shut you guys up. And now that you’re in, you complain that it’s open to everyone, not specific enough. Your right to a public education does not entitle you to the “best” education possible. It guarantees your kid receive a baseline 12th grade education. If you want better, go pay for private school.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Realistically, you guys are the problem. Statistically, only 5-6% of kids are gifted. In a class of 25 that would be only 1-2 kids. However, the stereotypical Arlington parent believes their child is a genius, and if not identified, throws a fit to the administration. Hence the “parent referrals” and increasing inclusiveness. They do it to shut you guys up. And now that you’re in, you complain that it’s open to everyone, not specific enough. Your right to a public education does not entitle you to the “best” education possible. It guarantees your kid receive a baseline 12th grade education. If you want better, go pay for private school.
Then they get to middle school, sign up for intensified classes and can keep up. The kids feel like failures when they’d be fine in regular courses.
Anonymous wrote:Realistically, you guys are the problem. Statistically, only 5-6% of kids are gifted. In a class of 25 that would be only 1-2 kids. However, the stereotypical Arlington parent believes their child is a genius, and if not identified, throws a fit to the administration. Hence the “parent referrals” and increasing inclusiveness. They do it to shut you guys up. And now that you’re in, you complain that it’s open to everyone, not specific enough. Your right to a public education does not entitle you to the “best” education possible. It guarantees your kid receive a baseline 12th grade education. If you want better, go pay for private school.
Anonymous wrote:Realistically, you guys are the problem. Statistically, only 5-6% of kids are gifted. In a class of 25 that would be only 1-2 kids. However, the stereotypical Arlington parent believes their child is a genius, and if not identified, throws a fit to the administration. Hence the “parent referrals” and increasing inclusiveness. They do it to shut you guys up. And now that you’re in, you complain that it’s open to everyone, not specific enough. Your right to a public education does not entitle you to the “best” education possible. It guarantees your kid receive a baseline 12th grade education. If you want better, go pay for private school.