Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Pitt is clearly superior in every single way. Pittsburgh is wonderful, Buffalo is not. Pitt is much stronger in academics and has a great vibe. How is this even a question?
I should add merit for SUNY, and none for Pitt. Should merit even factor if both can still be affordable.
What is the annual cost of attendance for both, with the merit included?
For Pitt w/o merit it’s about $55k/y
For business, it’s $61k. Ugh.
Buffalo OOS tuition is $30k but room and board is $17k.
And in state tuition/fees for Buffalo is around $10k , plus the room and board as noted above.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Pitt is clearly superior in every single way. Pittsburgh is wonderful, Buffalo is not. Pitt is much stronger in academics and has a great vibe. How is this even a question?
I should add merit for SUNY, and none for Pitt. Should merit even factor if both can still be affordable.
What is the annual cost of attendance for both, with the merit included?
For Pitt w/o merit it’s about $55k/y
For business, it’s $61k. Ugh.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Pitt is clearly superior in every single way. Pittsburgh is wonderful, Buffalo is not. Pitt is much stronger in academics and has a great vibe. How is this even a question?
I should add merit for SUNY, and none for Pitt. Should merit even factor if both can still be affordable.
What is the annual cost of attendance for both, with the merit included?
For Pitt w/o merit it’s about $55k/y
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Going to a SUNY school as someone from outside of NY can be kind of rough. It will be almost all in-state kids. Pitt is not like that.
Why is it rough, what does that even mean? NY is huge state with many different kinds of populations. True, the most affluent kids will be killing themselves to get into DCUM approved private colleges, but SUNY schools draw from everyone else. Cow farmers kids, professionals kids, rural, small town, totally urban from NYC, soft suburban Long Island & Westchester-it's all possible in the mix. UB is huge and draws all of these.
DP. I think it’s bad for a number of reasons. One, I don’t think a school where where 88% of students are from in state offers enough diversity. I don’t care if some come from farms and some come from the city; it’s still the same state. Also, the student body attracted to going to a school with such a lack of diversity points to a more parochial mindset. And finally, and most important, I would never send my kid to a school with a majority of New Yorkers. My husband and I grew up and worked in the tri-state area (NY, New Jersey, and CT) and we are directing our kid away from schools with a high percent of NY/NJ students. IYKYK.
I don't disagree that more out of state students could be a benefit to the SUNY system, but it sounds as if your bias is more specifically against students from the tri-state area, and again you don't say why. If you have the resources to send your kids to private colleges or pay OOS public rates to avoid this unbearable dilemma, it would seem you are of the affluent cohort that considers the SUNY system beneath them.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Going to a SUNY school as someone from outside of NY can be kind of rough. It will be almost all in-state kids. Pitt is not like that.
Why is it rough, what does that even mean? NY is huge state with many different kinds of populations. True, the most affluent kids will be killing themselves to get into DCUM approved private colleges, but SUNY schools draw from everyone else. Cow farmers kids, professionals kids, rural, small town, totally urban from NYC, soft suburban Long Island & Westchester-it's all possible in the mix. UB is huge and draws all of these.
DP. I think it’s bad for a number of reasons. One, I don’t think a school where where 88% of students are from in state offers enough diversity. I don’t care if some come from farms and some come from the city; it’s still the same state. Also, the student body attracted to going to a school with such a lack of diversity points to a more parochial mindset. And finally, and most important, I would never send my kid to a school with a majority of New Yorkers. My husband and I grew up and worked in the tri-state area (NY, New Jersey, and CT) and we are directing our kid away from schools with a high percent of NY/NJ students. IYKYK.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Freshman class of 5,205 has only 188 OOS and 49 international students. That is really a low percentage.
https://suny.buffalostate.edu/facts
That is Buffalo State University, not University of Buffalo
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Freshman class of 5,205 has only 188 OOS and 49 international students. That is really a low percentage.
https://suny.buffalostate.edu/facts
Buffalo State is a different school than the one being discussed which is University at Buffalo.
Which is a part of the identity issue
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Freshman class of 5,205 has only 188 OOS and 49 international students. That is really a low percentage.
https://suny.buffalostate.edu/facts
Buffalo State is a different school than the one being discussed which is University at Buffalo.
Which is a part of the identity issue
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Freshman class of 5,205 has only 188 OOS and 49 international students. That is really a low percentage.
https://suny.buffalostate.edu/facts
Buffalo State is a different school than the one being discussed which is University at Buffalo.