Anonymous wrote:My gf (now wife) was in Penn State honors (I was not). Same majors. Only benefit I saw was earlier time for class selection. Even then, I was still able to get the classes i needed. HC is worthless for all the extra effort it takes. But, you get to tell your friends that your kid is in HC!

Wife here. My husband is just annoyed that I had a much better experience than he did. Sure we get priority registration, but we also get to know our professors, mich better assistance, better dorms and quite frankly in a school of 70,000 students, we do get first pick for jobs and better recs from professors for Grad school.
Husband is mad we have the same degree and I make more.

Anonymous wrote:My gf (now wife) was in Penn State honors (I was not). Same majors. Only benefit I saw was earlier time for class selection. Even then, I was still able to get the classes i needed. HC is worthless for all the extra effort it takes. But, you get to tell your friends that your kid is in HC!

Now ask her to post...

My gf (now wife) was in Penn State honors (I was not). Same majors. Only benefit I saw was earlier time for class selection. Even then, I was still able to get the classes i needed. HC is worthless for all the extra effort it takes. But, you get to tell your friends that your kid is in HC!

UVM parent of a kid in the HCOL, meh. I hear more negatives than positives. We love UVM, but would recommend the school for reasons other than the honors college.

Penn State
Georgia
Alabama
UNC
UT

These schools pour money into their honors colleges to recruit top students. South Carolina and Barrett anyway. I’m not surprised that Sidwell doesn’t send kids to these. Has more to do with status than the quality of the program. South Carolina is a mediocre flagship that runs a top notch honors program. Same with Barrett at asu. They give the kids extra advisors and a fellowship advisor if they plan to apply after undergrad. They support Marshall and Fulbright applicants and get significant numbers each year. They have dedicated honors classes for all the intros capped at small numbers and guaranteed to be taught by full professors. So, they offer significant perks and academic advantages. But they don’t give you high status. So I’m not surprised that the dc privates don’t send kids. Vermont is much more popular with the waspy privates school set.

Seems to me that the most celebrated honors colleges are at overall less celebrated flagships. Not sure why, but I would guess that a big gap between the honors college and the general population helps keep students active and invested in the honors college for all four years. Overall I’m not sure whether it’s better to be in the honors college at a weaker flagship or in the general population at a stronger one.

Pitt, and if your kid is tops, they'll get merit aid too.
Ignore those repeating that Pitt has cut back on out of state merit aid, my kid got honors at Pitt and $15k per year. Tuition is just under $15k per semester, confirmed because I just paid for the Spring semester.

Anonymous wrote:Oxford at Emory is the opposite of an honors college. It’s a junior college that feeds into Emory.

That would be like saying UVA Wise is an honor college.

It is not a junior college. It has admissions stats on par with Emory college.

Who cares about Sidwell?

OP question was about Better Honor College Communities at larger universities….

The rankings on those have been pretty consistent for a LOOOOOG time….regardless of what a UVM or Alabama parent here has to say…

Penn State
South Carolina
ASU Barrett and Clemson are routinely ranked as 4 or the top 5 Honor Colleges at Large State Universities…..It is what it is.

Sorry— meant to type “how so?” I’m
Genuinely curious how USc honors college is better than UVM.

Thanks!

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Anonymous wrote:south carolina, asu, and vermont provide the largest “difference of experience” btw regular matriculation and honors college in the country - these are considered middle of the road state schools at best, but the honors college experience at each of them is superlative - hidden gems to use DCUM vernacular!

I think UVM is a tier above, despite what rankings services have to say.

Sorry, but you are wrong.

I a not a fan of U of South Carolina, but the honors college is above U. Vermont.

How do? My kid was just admitted to UVM honors— what’s the problem? She didn’t
Apply to U South Carolina.

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Anonymous wrote:south carolina, asu, and vermont provide the largest “difference of experience” btw regular matriculation and honors college in the country - these are considered middle of the road state schools at best, but the honors college experience at each of them is superlative - hidden gems to use DCUM vernacular!

I think UVM is a tier above, despite what rankings services have to say.

Sorry, but you are wrong.

I a not a fan of U of South Carolina, but the honors college is above U. Vermont.

How do? My kid was just admitted to UVM honors— what’s the problem? She didn’t
Apply to U South Carolina.

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Anonymous wrote:south carolina, asu, and vermont provide the largest “difference of experience” btw regular matriculation and honors college in the country - these are considered middle of the road state schools at best, but the honors college experience at each of them is superlative - hidden gems to use DCUM vernacular!

I think UVM is a tier above, despite what rankings services have to say.

Sorry, but you are wrong.

I a not a fan of U of South Carolina, but the honors college is above U. Vermont.

You don't see UofSC on the Sidwell matriculation list.

No, but Gonzaga sends several boys every year.

People typically choose honors colleges at publics over privates due to cost. Nobody is spending Sidwell $ to then save $ on college.

Sidwell sends kids to UVM though. You’re not wrong about money but political alignment plays a significant role as well.

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Anonymous wrote:south carolina, asu, and vermont provide the largest “difference of experience” btw regular matriculation and honors college in the country - these are considered middle of the road state schools at best, but the honors college experience at each of them is superlative - hidden gems to use DCUM vernacular!

I think UVM is a tier above, despite what rankings services have to say.

Sorry, but you are wrong.

I a not a fan of U of South Carolina, but the honors college is above U. Vermont.

You don't see UofSC on the Sidwell matriculation list.

No, but Gonzaga sends several boys every year.

People typically choose honors colleges at publics over privates due to cost. Nobody is spending Sidwell $ to then save $ on college.

https://www.sidwell.edu/academics/college-counseling/college-matriculation

Wrong. UVA, W&M, UMD, UMich are all bolded on the Sidwell matriculation list.