Anonymous
Post 01/08/2025 16:29     Subject: Why can't MoCo be broken into smaller geographic snow zones?
Because teachers and kids don’t necessarily live in their school’s neighborhood.
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2025 16:23     Subject: Why can't MoCo be broken into smaller geographic snow zones?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Years ago when I was a kid Baltimore County, the "Hereford Zone" in the Nothern part of the county had its snow delays/closings announced separately.

Often in the southern part of Baltimore County where I lived we'd be two hours late but the Hereford Zone would be closed.

Everybody was jealous of the kids in the Hereford Zone.


With all of the discussion about closures I’m surprised that this hasn’t come up more. I also grew up in Baltimore County and as an adult I can understand the logic for having them on different closures. The weather in Catonsville and the weather in Parkton were often quite different


Does the Hereford zone still exist?


Looks like it does: https://www.bcps.org/about_us/emergency_notifications_school_closings_and_delays


So if Baltimore County, can separate their country, why can MCPS?
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2025 16:14     Subject: Why can't MoCo be broken into smaller geographic snow zones?
Anonymous wrote:There are umpteen threads on this topic over the last decade as some genius brings it up as if it were brand new every time it snows. It's not going to change people.


+1. This is a regular discussion topic here on DCUM, but no one ever brings it up at the board meetings. It's not happening.
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2025 14:57     Subject: Why can't MoCo be broken into smaller geographic snow zones?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Seriously? Do you believe that the teachers, cafeteria staff, secretaries, building services staff and bus drivers all live within 2-/5 miles of the school/and have the same commute to the building as your child? No, many live much farther away, and they might have gotten more snow/ice than you and can't safely get to school.


That shouldn't be the reason. There are many essential workers who have long commutes that are required to report to work after it snows. MCPS is full of entitled whiners.


The schools system does not have the same policies or procedures in place as hospitals or emergency responders (firemen, police.. ). Teacher's and other school employees hours/shifts are not planned for in the same way as many other "essential workers". But, most importantly, the decision to close schools is predicated primarily on the safety of the students... getting them to/from school, proper supervision while they are there and ensuring the building is safe, additionally meals need to get there and be prepared. If people are unable to come to work, the conditions for safely running a building may not be met.

Another thing many are not considering is that there are not employees whose only responsibility is to remove snow- so when individuals are doing snow removal, there are other things that are necessary for the running of a school that are not being done.

Most of the trucks used for plowing also used for other purposes and it's not like every school, or even closer has a plow. (MCPS would have to own, have space to park, insure, maintain, and staff 22 plows to have one for each HS cluster-- that does not make fiscal sense in an area that may see this much snow once every 4 years).


People could get to work, though. Sure, Monday was a problem. You wouldn't have wanted many people to try. But yesterday was fine for most people. And that's how schools were able to get cleared. Things were ready to go today but MCPS didn't want to open.
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2025 14:55     Subject: Why can't MoCo be broken into smaller geographic snow zones?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Seriously? Do you believe that the teachers, cafeteria staff, secretaries, building services staff and bus drivers all live within 2-/5 miles of the school/and have the same commute to the building as your child? No, many live much farther away, and they might have gotten more snow/ice than you and can't safely get to school.


That shouldn't be the reason. There are many essential workers who have long commutes that are required to report to work after it snows. MCPS is full of entitled whiners.


Now teachers and other school staff are essential workers? When the vaccines rolled out, DCUM swore they weren’t.


Most people thought they should have been, but MCEA didn't want to go to work.


Not wanting to work in person w/o vaccines is not the same as not wanting to go to work.


It is. That's just the reason they gave for not wanting to go to work. Except that wasn't even it, because they still complained about going to work even after they were given priority access to the vaccine when Hogan called them out.
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2025 14:52     Subject: Why can't MoCo be broken into smaller geographic snow zones?
Anonymous wrote:If you are complaining schools are closed why did you have kids?

Shut up

It’s weather for gods sake as old as time school gets cancelled omg.


+1
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2025 14:44     Subject: Why can't MoCo be broken into smaller geographic snow zones?
There are umpteen threads on this topic over the last decade as some genius brings it up as if it were brand new every time it snows. It's not going to change people.
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2025 13:44     Subject: Why can't MoCo be broken into smaller geographic snow zones?
If you are complaining schools are closed why did you have kids?

Shut up

It’s weather for gods sake as old as time school gets cancelled omg.
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2025 13:42     Subject: Why can't MoCo be broken into smaller geographic snow zones?
If the schools were based on geography walking might be a possibility

Some W tier ES are almost 4 miles (approximately) from homes zoned for them.

Also the staff lives so far out now (unless they bought long ago or are dual income)
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2025 13:10     Subject: Why can't MoCo be broken into smaller geographic snow zones?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Seriously? Do you believe that the teachers, cafeteria staff, secretaries, building services staff and bus drivers all live within 2-/5 miles of the school/and have the same commute to the building as your child? No, many live much farther away, and they might have gotten more snow/ice than you and can't safely get to school.


That shouldn't be the reason. There are many essential workers who have long commutes that are required to report to work after it snows. MCPS is full of entitled whiners.


Now teachers and other school staff are essential workers? When the vaccines rolled out, DCUM swore they weren’t.


Most people thought they should have been, but MCEA didn't want to go to work.


Not wanting to work in person w/o vaccines is not the same as not wanting to go to work.
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2025 11:02     Subject: Why can't MoCo be broken into smaller geographic snow zones?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Years ago when I was a kid Baltimore County, the "Hereford Zone" in the Nothern part of the county had its snow delays/closings announced separately.

Often in the southern part of Baltimore County where I lived we'd be two hours late but the Hereford Zone would be closed.

Everybody was jealous of the kids in the Hereford Zone.


With all of the discussion about closures I’m surprised that this hasn’t come up more. I also grew up in Baltimore County and as an adult I can understand the logic for having them on different closures. The weather in Catonsville and the weather in Parkton were often quite different


Does the Hereford zone still exist?


Looks like it does: https://www.bcps.org/about_us/emergency_notifications_school_closings_and_delays
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2025 09:55     Subject: Why can't MoCo be broken into smaller geographic snow zones?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Seriously? Do you believe that the teachers, cafeteria staff, secretaries, building services staff and bus drivers all live within 2-/5 miles of the school/and have the same commute to the building as your child? No, many live much farther away, and they might have gotten more snow/ice than you and can't safely get to school.


That shouldn't be the reason. There are many essential workers who have long commutes that are required to report to work after it snows. MCPS is full of entitled whiners.


The schools system does not have the same policies or procedures in place as hospitals or emergency responders (firemen, police.. ). Teacher's and other school employees hours/shifts are not planned for in the same way as many other "essential workers". But, most importantly, the decision to close schools is predicated primarily on the safety of the students... getting them to/from school, proper supervision while they are there and ensuring the building is safe, additionally meals need to get there and be prepared. If people are unable to come to work, the conditions for safely running a building may not be met.

Another thing many are not considering is that there are not employees whose only responsibility is to remove snow- so when individuals are doing snow removal, there are other things that are necessary for the running of a school that are not being done.

Most of the trucks used for plowing also used for other purposes and it's not like every school, or even closer has a plow. (MCPS would have to own, have space to park, insure, maintain, and staff 22 plows to have one for each HS cluster-- that does not make fiscal sense in an area that may see this much snow once every 4 years).
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2025 09:32     Subject: Why can't MoCo be broken into smaller geographic snow zones?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Years ago when I was a kid Baltimore County, the "Hereford Zone" in the Nothern part of the county had its snow delays/closings announced separately.

Often in the southern part of Baltimore County where I lived we'd be two hours late but the Hereford Zone would be closed.

Everybody was jealous of the kids in the Hereford Zone.


With all of the discussion about closures I’m surprised that this hasn’t come up more. I also grew up in Baltimore County and as an adult I can understand the logic for having them on different closures. The weather in Catonsville and the weather in Parkton were often quite different


Does the Hereford zone still exist?
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2025 09:01     Subject: Why can't MoCo be broken into smaller geographic snow zones?
Anonymous wrote:Years ago when I was a kid Baltimore County, the "Hereford Zone" in the Nothern part of the county had its snow delays/closings announced separately.

Often in the southern part of Baltimore County where I lived we'd be two hours late but the Hereford Zone would be closed.

Everybody was jealous of the kids in the Hereford Zone.


With all of the discussion about closures I’m surprised that this hasn’t come up more. I also grew up in Baltimore County and as an adult I can understand the logic for having them on different closures. The weather in Catonsville and the weather in Parkton were often quite different
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2025 08:16     Subject: Re:Why can't MoCo be broken into smaller geographic snow zones?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know this is hard for your teeny tiny brain to understand but teachers don't live near the school that they teach.


And everyone that has been going to work this week? You think they live right next to their worplace?

It's incredible that teachers have no idea what other people have to push through for their jobs.


No everybody has not been going to work. Also my cop H has been pulling idiot out of ditches for 2 days because they "had to go to work" ... a nurse okay maybe but your work should get you there safely, a lawyer no you didn't your just selfish and self important.

Also, just because you can drive in Connecticut in the snow does not mean you can drive on ice at 6am in DMV.

Relax it's just a few days.

BTW you being out and about when you were told to stay home is dangerous for cops and fire fighter and nurses who actually need to be at work.