Starbucks had a good 30 year run. But it is done as a company. The decline is now.

It's become a grift for senior management. The CEO made 98 million last year- which is absurd. $250,000 a day for this guy.

And meanwhile, the quality of the product has plummeted. They treat their employees like crap, and destroy any attempts at unionization. They've abandoned being a "third place" space. Very few Starbucks franchises are places where you want to linger.

They make do because they are everywhere and people want their caffeine.

But Starbucks today is a crappy company with a crappy product and crappy management.

Most importantly, the coffee is garbage these days. Bitter and burnt. And I refuse to send my $5 to a greedy imbecile of a CEO who is getting $250,000 per day for inflicting this garbage on the world.

Starbucks has embraced enshitification and greed. It's a terrible company today.

Buying shitty drip coffee is such a prole tell. It costs like 5 cents a cup to make at home.

Peet’s Coffee is awful and overpriced. I’ll take Folgers instant over it any day.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:McDonalds coffee is quite good....

No, it’s not. And those cups they use make it smell like burnt plastic. Absolutely vile.

I prefer McDonald’s coffee over Starbucks. It’s not bad at all.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:McDonalds coffee is quite good....

No, it’s not. And those cups they use make it smell like burnt plastic. Absolutely vile.

I see you have expensive taste even though you are complaining about $4. I love McD coffee.

- np

Anonymous wrote:There is a really charming cafe near our lake cottage that still has $1.50 small coffees and it’s really good coffee.

Update 9 months later: Now it's $3.00! (seriously lol)

Anonymous wrote:McDonalds is probably the best fast food coffee. Chick-Fil-A has goid chicken, but is really terrible even for fast food coffee.

I agree!

McDonalds is probably the best fast food coffee. Chick-Fil-A has goid chicken, but is really terrible even for fast food coffee.

Drip coffee is so gross. And so bad for your teeth.

The price of coffee beans has been rising, so coffee beverages are costing more whether you buy them or make them at home. Still, making your drinks at home is the best way to control costs. You can choose to use more, or less, expensive beans, and you avoid the overhead and profit inherent in coffee shops or other outlets for prepared coffee.

With a relatively inexpensive espresso machine like one of the Ninja Luxe Cafe models, you can brew at home not only drip-style coffee but pretty much any hot or cold specialty coffee drink you can dream up. Buy some flavored syrups from a seller like Monin, and you can produce your own vanilla cappuccino, cafe mocha, caramel macchiato, and more. By doing that, you can also control for the quality of the syrups in your drink - all-natural, organic, etc., whereas you have little choice in the ingredients when you buy from someone else.

Anonymous wrote:McDonalds coffee is quite good....

Hell no it's not.

Starbucks drive thru today at lunch time was empty. Haven’t seen that in a while. I think people are pulling back and drinking coffee at home or office for free. Filling up a thermos or Stanley cup with a beverage.

Anonymous wrote:At Starbucks a small drip coffee is around $3.

10 years ago it was like $1.70 at Starbucks for a tall coffee. Crazy how the prices have nearly doubled