Anonymous
Post 12/26/2024 01:33     Subject: Where do top students who got rejected early from Ivy/T10 land?

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Anonymous wrote:I am talking about applicants who have the academic stats (1500+, 4.0+, high rigor) but didn't make the cut. Unhooked. What typically happens to them?


At our school many ED2 to U Chicago, Hopkins if pre med or Tufts/Bowdoin/Wesleyan if they want more of a LAC.


they aren't getting into Chicago or Hopkins for ED 2 if unhooked. If anything, these are harder than many ivies ED1.


This just isn’t true, since the admitted students are almost exclusively Ivy+ rejects.


You're kind of dumb - ED2 at Hopkins and Chicago is far more selective than ED 1 at ivies.


This might be true. Hopkins and Chicago are unusual among top schools in having ED2. Probably many strong kids apply ED2 there and it is a tough pool.

That said, the overall difficulty of getting into Hopkins or Chicago is similar to Cornell or Northwestern imo.


Both actually harder for class of 2028:

Hopkins: 5.5% acceptance rate overall
Chicago: 4.5% accepted
Cornell: 8.4%

Enrolled Test scores:

Hopkins:1530 - 1570
Chicago: 1510 - 1560
Cornell: 1480 - 1550
Chicago:


Re SAT scores, aren't all those schools test optional in those stats?



That’s Numberwang!


Pre-test optional, chicago and hopkins were both already more selective than cornell with higher test scores. this isn't anything new.


FWIW, Hopkins and Chicago removed their pre-covid common data sets so there's no way to tell. (Cornell provides common data sets back to 1999.)
Anonymous
Post 12/26/2024 01:09     Subject: Where do top students who got rejected early from Ivy/T10 land?

They go to UVA in our area. If they don’t get into a tip top school, they seem to go to UVA over T20-T30 schools. We are at a fcps high school.
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Post 12/26/2024 01:02     Subject: Where do top students who got rejected early from Ivy/T10 land?

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Anonymous wrote:I am talking about applicants who have the academic stats (1500+, 4.0+, high rigor) but didn't make the cut. Unhooked. What typically happens to them?


At our school many ED2 to U Chicago, Hopkins if pre med or Tufts/Bowdoin/Wesleyan if they want more of a LAC.


they aren't getting into Chicago or Hopkins for ED 2 if unhooked. If anything, these are harder than many ivies ED1.


This just isn’t true, since the admitted students are almost exclusively Ivy+ rejects.


You're kind of dumb - ED2 at Hopkins and Chicago is far more selective than ED 1 at ivies.


This might be true. Hopkins and Chicago are unusual among top schools in having ED2. Probably many strong kids apply ED2 there and it is a tough pool.

That said, the overall difficulty of getting into Hopkins or Chicago is similar to Cornell or Northwestern imo.


Both actually harder for class of 2028:

Hopkins: 5.5% acceptance rate overall
Chicago: 4.5% accepted
Cornell: 8.4%

Enrolled Test scores:

Hopkins:1530 - 1570
Chicago: 1510 - 1560
Cornell: 1480 - 1550
Chicago:


Re SAT scores, aren't all those schools test optional in those stats?



That’s Numberwang!


Pre-test optional, chicago and hopkins were both already more selective than cornell with higher test scores. this isn't anything new.
Anonymous
Post 12/26/2024 01:00     Subject: Where do top students who got rejected early from Ivy/T10 land?

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Anonymous wrote:I am talking about applicants who have the academic stats (1500+, 4.0+, high rigor) but didn't make the cut. Unhooked. What typically happens to them?


At our school many ED2 to U Chicago, Hopkins if pre med or Tufts/Bowdoin/Wesleyan if they want more of a LAC.


they aren't getting into Chicago or Hopkins for ED 2 if unhooked. If anything, these are harder than many ivies ED1.


This just isn’t true, since the admitted students are almost exclusively Ivy+ rejects.


You're kind of dumb - ED2 at Hopkins and Chicago is far more selective than ED 1 at ivies.


This might be true. Hopkins and Chicago are unusual among top schools in having ED2. Probably many strong kids apply ED2 there and it is a tough pool.

That said, the overall difficulty of getting into Hopkins or Chicago is similar to Cornell or Northwestern imo.


Both actually harder for class of 2028:

Hopkins: 5.5% acceptance rate overall
Chicago: 4.5% accepted
Cornell: 8.4%

Enrolled Test scores:

Hopkins:1530 - 1570
Chicago: 1510 - 1560
Cornell: 1480 - 1550
Chicago:


Re SAT scores, aren't all those schools test optional in those stats?



That’s Numberwang!
Anonymous
Post 12/26/2024 00:56     Subject: Where do top students who got rejected early from Ivy/T10 land?

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Anonymous wrote:I am talking about applicants who have the academic stats (1500+, 4.0+, high rigor) but didn't make the cut. Unhooked. What typically happens to them?


At our school many ED2 to U Chicago, Hopkins if pre med or Tufts/Bowdoin/Wesleyan if they want more of a LAC.


they aren't getting into Chicago or Hopkins for ED 2 if unhooked. If anything, these are harder than many ivies ED1.


This just isn’t true, since the admitted students are almost exclusively Ivy+ rejects.


You're kind of dumb - ED2 at Hopkins and Chicago is far more selective than ED 1 at ivies.


This might be true. Hopkins and Chicago are unusual among top schools in having ED2. Probably many strong kids apply ED2 there and it is a tough pool.

That said, the overall difficulty of getting into Hopkins or Chicago is similar to Cornell or Northwestern imo.


Both actually harder for class of 2028:

Hopkins: 5.5% acceptance rate overall
Chicago: 4.5% accepted
Cornell: 8.4%

Enrolled Test scores:

Hopkins:1530 - 1570
Chicago: 1510 - 1560
Cornell: 1480 - 1550
Chicago:


Re SAT scores, aren't all those schools test optional in those stats?
Anonymous
Post 12/26/2024 00:52     Subject: Where do top students who got rejected early from Ivy/T10 land?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I am talking about applicants who have the academic stats (1500+, 4.0+, high rigor) but didn't make the cut. Unhooked. What typically happens to them?


At our school many ED2 to U Chicago, Hopkins if pre med or Tufts/Bowdoin/Wesleyan if they want more of a LAC.


they aren't getting into Chicago or Hopkins for ED 2 if unhooked. If anything, these are harder than many ivies ED1.


This just isn’t true, since the admitted students are almost exclusively Ivy+ rejects.


You're kind of dumb - ED2 at Hopkins and Chicago is far more selective than ED 1 at ivies.


This might be true. Hopkins and Chicago are unusual among top schools in having ED2. Probably many strong kids apply ED2 there and it is a tough pool.

That said, the overall difficulty of getting into Hopkins or Chicago is similar to Cornell or Northwestern imo.


Both actually harder for class of 2028:

Hopkins: 5.5% acceptance rate overall
Chicago: 4.5% accepted
Cornell: 8.4%

Enrolled Test scores:

Hopkins:1530 - 1570
Chicago: 1510 - 1560
Cornell: 1480 - 1550
Chicago:


Acceptance rates and SAT scores are so 2019.
Anonymous
Post 12/26/2024 00:51     Subject: Where do top students who got rejected early from Ivy/T10 land?

My kid was deferred (and eventually rejected) from both their ED I and ED II (one top LAC and one top 30 uni) — and then was accepted at 11 other schools RD, including half a dozen schools ranked better than the university were he was rejected. Ended up at a top 5 LAC. It’s very hard to judge by one deferral.
Anonymous
Post 12/26/2024 00:47     Subject: Where do top students who got rejected early from Ivy/T10 land?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I am talking about applicants who have the academic stats (1500+, 4.0+, high rigor) but didn't make the cut. Unhooked. What typically happens to them?


At our school many ED2 to U Chicago, Hopkins if pre med or Tufts/Bowdoin/Wesleyan if they want more of a LAC.


they aren't getting into Chicago or Hopkins for ED 2 if unhooked. If anything, these are harder than many ivies ED1.


This just isn’t true, since the admitted students are almost exclusively Ivy+ rejects.


You're kind of dumb - ED2 at Hopkins and Chicago is far more selective than ED 1 at ivies.


This might be true. Hopkins and Chicago are unusual among top schools in having ED2. Probably many strong kids apply ED2 there and it is a tough pool.

That said, the overall difficulty of getting into Hopkins or Chicago is similar to Cornell or Northwestern imo.


Both actually harder for class of 2028:

Hopkins: 5.5% acceptance rate overall
Chicago: 4.5% accepted
Cornell: 8.4%

Enrolled Test scores:

Hopkins:1530 - 1570
Chicago: 1510 - 1560
Cornell: 1480 - 1550
Chicago:
Anonymous
Post 12/26/2024 00:38     Subject: Where do top students who got rejected early from Ivy/T10 land?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am talking about applicants who have the academic stats (1500+, 4.0+, high rigor) but didn't make the cut. Unhooked. What typically happens to them?


At our school many ED2 to U Chicago, Hopkins if pre med or Tufts/Bowdoin/Wesleyan if they want more of a LAC.


they aren't getting into Chicago or Hopkins for ED 2 if unhooked. If anything, these are harder than many ivies ED1.


This just isn’t true, since the admitted students are almost exclusively Ivy+ rejects.


You're kind of dumb - ED2 at Hopkins and Chicago is far more selective than ED 1 at ivies.


This might be true. Hopkins and Chicago are unusual among top schools in having ED2. Probably many strong kids apply ED2 there and it is a tough pool.

That said, the overall difficulty of getting into Hopkins or Chicago is similar to Cornell or Northwestern imo.
Anonymous
Post 12/26/2024 00:35     Subject: Where do top students who got rejected early from Ivy/T10 land?

Anonymous wrote:Got into 2 other Ivies,another T10 and some top LACs in RD.


Same
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Post 12/26/2024 00:35     Subject: Where do top students who got rejected early from Ivy/T10 land?

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Anonymous wrote:Unless your DC is way outside the ballpark in terms of stats, I would say ED results at very selective schools don't necessarily define future results.

Our DS got rejected Duke ED with 1570/4.0UW/high course rigor/solid ECs. In regular round was accepted to multiple T10s and other great schools, and now is happily at Penn. Of course would have preferred getting a yes from his dream school during ED, but he's made great friends at Penn and has mostly forgotten Duke at this point.


+1

I don't think you can tell much from a rejection at one school.


Same. Rejected from Columbia ED. Accepted to Stanford and Harvard RD. Rejected at other ivies however.
Anonymous
Post 12/26/2024 00:34     Subject: Where do top students who got rejected early from Ivy/T10 land?

My son was rejected from every IVY and Top 15 schools he applied to 3 years ago.

He graduates from Oxford in a couple of months.
Anonymous
Post 12/26/2024 00:32     Subject: Where do top students who got rejected early from Ivy/T10 land?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am talking about applicants who have the academic stats (1500+, 4.0+, high rigor) but didn't make the cut. Unhooked. What typically happens to them?


At our school many ED2 to U Chicago, Hopkins if pre med or Tufts/Bowdoin/Wesleyan if they want more of a LAC.


they aren't getting into Chicago or Hopkins for ED 2 if unhooked. If anything, these are harder than many ivies ED1.


This just isn’t true, since the admitted students are almost exclusively Ivy+ rejects.


Ivies RD > Hopkins/Chicago ED2 > Ivies ED 1 in selectivity.

Since the bulk of ED students are already taken in ED1, ED2 acceptance rates are in the single digits where as ivies such as Cornell, Penn, Dartmouth have higher ED 1 acceptance rates.
Anonymous
Post 12/26/2024 00:30     Subject: Where do top students who got rejected early from Ivy/T10 land?

Anonymous wrote:Unless your DC is way outside the ballpark in terms of stats, I would say ED results at very selective schools don't necessarily define future results.

Our DS got rejected Duke ED with 1570/4.0UW/high course rigor/solid ECs. In regular round was accepted to multiple T10s and other great schools, and now is happily at Penn. Of course would have preferred getting a yes from his dream school during ED, but he's made great friends at Penn and has mostly forgotten Duke at this point.


+1

I don't think you can tell much from a rejection at one school.
Anonymous
Post 12/26/2024 00:27     Subject: Where do top students who got rejected early from Ivy/T10 land?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I am talking about applicants who have the academic stats (1500+, 4.0+, high rigor) but didn't make the cut. Unhooked. What typically happens to them?


At our school many ED2 to U Chicago, Hopkins if pre med or Tufts/Bowdoin/Wesleyan if they want more of a LAC.


they aren't getting into Chicago or Hopkins for ED 2 if unhooked. If anything, these are harder than many ivies ED1.


This just isn’t true, since the admitted students are almost exclusively Ivy+ rejects.


You're kind of dumb - ED2 at Hopkins and Chicago is far more selective than ED 1 at ivies.


Also plenty of stories of applicants not getting into an ivy or Hopkins/Chicago ED and then other ivies RD.