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Anonymous wrote:NP. This is a thread about improving food quality. No mention of junk food is appropriate here, unless we are condemning it.

It’s appropriate because the vast majority of American general population diet is junk food. The quality of milk, eggs, fruits/vegetables is a moot point because people aren’t even cooking actual food anymore and they don’t want to healthy foods. It’s all about convenience crap. Everyone is too “busy” to cook a decent meal, no matter how simple and affordable it actually is. So unless that culture changes and or junk food is taken off the shelves, people are still going to be overweight and unhealthy.

You're making sweeping generalizations that are probably off topic or deserve their own thread.
Yes this is true for the majority of the US.
For those of us on DCUM, who are over-educated, more fit than the average American, richer than the average American, etc. etc. etc, we do want to have a discussion about what is in the food that WE generally access, prepare and eat. I don't eat at McDonalds or Little Debbies, so I agree that that is a good place to start if you do.

I would like to continue the conversation about the (face it, more expensive and inaccessible) food that we do buy and why it isn't better quality like we see in European countries.

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Anonymous wrote:Unlikely op, unlikely. Food is huge business and there is so much crap put in our food. Just look up McDonald's fries.
Organic is a myth, and a scam for us to pay more for the same exact food. We are also eating veggies that are tasteless as in order for them to have a long shelf life, they have bred out the taste in favor of shelf life.
This happens everywhere.
Mom's or whole foods is a scam too, you know our soil is all the same, right? You know your pasture raised meat might be from several different countries and different animals mixed together.
Now could legislation forbid use of harmful chemicals in our food? Yes, they could, that part could be solved, but it will not be solved.
I work overseas, and, as an example, Coke Zero here tastes horrific, over there it tastes great. There is some weird after taste here.
Here Coca Cola has more ingredients then in the country I work in.

The best you can do, is to cook the food yourself, buy meat, potatoes and don't buy into the organic myth. Potatoes from one field, next to the other field are all the same, organic uses other chemicals that are not any better than non organic ones. What goes into the ground comes down into the ground, that is so basic. The very conception of organic produce was a scam in the late 1990s.
Do you know what organic plums are? They are the same plums as non organic, they are all sprayed with the same chemicals, only the organic ones are not sprayed for 5 days before being picked (shook off the tree). That is the only difference because all the chemicals are considered washed by then. This is not something I invented, this is the German standard for organic produce. My cousin's friend has a plum orchard in Europe and sells all of them to German company. They have drones above to insure he does not spray them prior to harvest.
Only suckers shop at Whole foods, only suckers do not understand that most avocado oil, is not avocado oil at all.
Should we have to look at the labels and be detectives when grocery shopping? No, we should not, but business runs the country and addictive ingredients are good business.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/11/15/the-great-organic-food-fraud

Coke Zero is a non-food and a monstrosity. The fact that you consume it tells me you know and care nothing about food. All credibility lost.

LOL. I do not consume it, I had it a few times when working till 2 am bcs DH had it in the fridge. Also, bravo for missing the whole point, but you do you, and shop at whole foods and avoid fruit at all cost.

Really? I drag you about Coke Zero, and you think I don’t consume fruit? Two brain cells working, I see.

What a wonderful person you are, spending Christmas Eve insulting people. You took offense at my post bcs I said Coke Zero tastes different and insulted me. But, you are offended that I told you not to have fruit that is sugar? And I am the one that has two brain cells working? It is a know fact that many narcs run to the insulting and dumb side. Nothing in my original post called for you insult.

You wrote a post mentioning how great foreign Coke Zero tastes. You deserve all the shit you get. I don’t celebrate Xmas, way to assume, basic.

Quoting Anna Delvey and you want anyone to take you seriously? You decided to give or not give credibility, I never claimed it. Foreign Coke and Coke Zero tastes great. Who made you the end it all for what we should post in will food in the U.S. improve?

I have no idea what Anna Delvey says but apparently you hang in her every word. Par for the course from a Coke Zero fan.

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Anonymous wrote:Unlikely op, unlikely. Food is huge business and there is so much crap put in our food. Just look up McDonald's fries.
Organic is a myth, and a scam for us to pay more for the same exact food. We are also eating veggies that are tasteless as in order for them to have a long shelf life, they have bred out the taste in favor of shelf life.
This happens everywhere.
Mom's or whole foods is a scam too, you know our soil is all the same, right? You know your pasture raised meat might be from several different countries and different animals mixed together.
Now could legislation forbid use of harmful chemicals in our food? Yes, they could, that part could be solved, but it will not be solved.
I work overseas, and, as an example, Coke Zero here tastes horrific, over there it tastes great. There is some weird after taste here.
Here Coca Cola has more ingredients then in the country I work in.

The best you can do, is to cook the food yourself, buy meat, potatoes and don't buy into the organic myth. Potatoes from one field, next to the other field are all the same, organic uses other chemicals that are not any better than non organic ones. What goes into the ground comes down into the ground, that is so basic. The very conception of organic produce was a scam in the late 1990s.
Do you know what organic plums are? They are the same plums as non organic, they are all sprayed with the same chemicals, only the organic ones are not sprayed for 5 days before being picked (shook off the tree). That is the only difference because all the chemicals are considered washed by then. This is not something I invented, this is the German standard for organic produce. My cousin's friend has a plum orchard in Europe and sells all of them to German company. They have drones above to insure he does not spray them prior to harvest.
Only suckers shop at Whole foods, only suckers do not understand that most avocado oil, is not avocado oil at all.
Should we have to look at the labels and be detectives when grocery shopping? No, we should not, but business runs the country and addictive ingredients are good business.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/11/15/the-great-organic-food-fraud

Coke Zero is a non-food and a monstrosity. The fact that you consume it tells me you know and care nothing about food. All credibility lost.

LOL. I do not consume it, I had it a few times when working till 2 am bcs DH had it in the fridge. Also, bravo for missing the whole point, but you do you, and shop at whole foods and avoid fruit at all cost.

Really? I drag you about Coke Zero, and you think I don’t consume fruit? Two brain cells working, I see.

What a wonderful person you are, spending Christmas Eve insulting people. You took offense at my post bcs I said Coke Zero tastes different and insulted me. But, you are offended that I told you not to have fruit that is sugar? And I am the one that has two brain cells working? It is a know fact that many narcs run to the insulting and dumb side. Nothing in my original post called for you insult.

You wrote a post mentioning how great foreign Coke Zero tastes. You deserve all the shit you get. I don’t celebrate Xmas, way to assume, basic.

Quoting Anna Delvey and you want anyone to take you seriously? You decided to give or not give credibility, I never claimed it. Foreign Coke and Coke Zero tastes great. Who made you the end it all for what we should post in will food in the U.S. improve?

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Anonymous wrote:NP. This is a thread about improving food quality. No mention of junk food is appropriate here, unless we are condemning it.

It’s appropriate because the vast majority of American general population diet is junk food. The quality of milk, eggs, fruits/vegetables is a moot point because people aren’t even cooking actual food anymore and they don’t want to healthy foods. It’s all about convenience crap. Everyone is too “busy” to cook a decent meal, no matter how simple and affordable it actually is. So unless that culture changes and or junk food is taken off the shelves, people are still going to be overweight and unhealthy.

As the mom of a family with multiple, conflicting food restrictions and a tight budget, I find this so triggering. Cooking is NOT simple for me. If I’m making a pasta dinner, I’m making the sauce from scratch and cooking three different pastas/pasta alternatives. Cooking is hell. I do it because I’m a responsible adult, but I never liked it and resent that every time we find a new food intolerance, I need to find new recipes. Yet again. These are not small things. My kid will scream in agony on the toilet if I’m not paranoid. Yes, we eat organic.

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Anonymous wrote:Unlikely op, unlikely. Food is huge business and there is so much crap put in our food. Just look up McDonald's fries.
Organic is a myth, and a scam for us to pay more for the same exact food. We are also eating veggies that are tasteless as in order for them to have a long shelf life, they have bred out the taste in favor of shelf life.
This happens everywhere.
Mom's or whole foods is a scam too, you know our soil is all the same, right? You know your pasture raised meat might be from several different countries and different animals mixed together.
Now could legislation forbid use of harmful chemicals in our food? Yes, they could, that part could be solved, but it will not be solved.
I work overseas, and, as an example, Coke Zero here tastes horrific, over there it tastes great. There is some weird after taste here.
Here Coca Cola has more ingredients then in the country I work in.

The best you can do, is to cook the food yourself, buy meat, potatoes and don't buy into the organic myth. Potatoes from one field, next to the other field are all the same, organic uses other chemicals that are not any better than non organic ones. What goes into the ground comes down into the ground, that is so basic. The very conception of organic produce was a scam in the late 1990s.
Do you know what organic plums are? They are the same plums as non organic, they are all sprayed with the same chemicals, only the organic ones are not sprayed for 5 days before being picked (shook off the tree). That is the only difference because all the chemicals are considered washed by then. This is not something I invented, this is the German standard for organic produce. My cousin's friend has a plum orchard in Europe and sells all of them to German company. They have drones above to insure he does not spray them prior to harvest.
Only suckers shop at Whole foods, only suckers do not understand that most avocado oil, is not avocado oil at all.
Should we have to look at the labels and be detectives when grocery shopping? No, we should not, but business runs the country and addictive ingredients are good business.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/11/15/the-great-organic-food-fraud

Coke Zero is a non-food and a monstrosity. The fact that you consume it tells me you know and care nothing about food. All credibility lost.

LOL. I do not consume it, I had it a few times when working till 2 am bcs DH had it in the fridge. Also, bravo for missing the whole point, but you do you, and shop at whole foods and avoid fruit at all cost.

Really? I drag you about Coke Zero, and you think I don’t consume fruit? Two brain cells working, I see.

What a wonderful person you are, spending Christmas Eve insulting people. You took offense at my post bcs I said Coke Zero tastes different and insulted me. But, you are offended that I told you not to have fruit that is sugar? And I am the one that has two brain cells working? It is a know fact that many narcs run to the insulting and dumb side. Nothing in my original post called for you insult.

You wrote a post mentioning how great foreign Coke Zero tastes. You deserve all the shit you get. I don’t celebrate Xmas, way to assume, basic.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. This is a thread about improving food quality. No mention of junk food is appropriate here, unless we are condemning it.

It’s appropriate because the vast majority of American general population diet is junk food. The quality of milk, eggs, fruits/vegetables is a moot point because people aren’t even cooking actual food anymore and they don’t want to healthy foods. It’s all about convenience crap. Everyone is too “busy” to cook a decent meal, no matter how simple and affordable it actually is. So unless that culture changes and or junk food is taken off the shelves, people are still going to be overweight and unhealthy.

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Anonymous wrote:Just wondering if there's any hope of food quality in the US improving.

Meat quality is abysmal. Chemicals and harmful additives are everywhere.

Does anyone else feel like our food is poisoning us?

Stop eating meat, grow your own vegetables, raise chickens

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Anonymous wrote:NP. This is a thread about improving food quality. No mention of junk food is appropriate here, unless we are condemning it.

It’s appropriate because the vast majority of American general population diet is junk food. The quality of milk, eggs, fruits/vegetables is a moot point because people aren’t even cooking actual food anymore and they don’t want to healthy foods. It’s all about convenience crap. Everyone is too “busy” to cook a decent meal, no matter how simple and affordable it actually is. So unless that culture changes and or junk food is taken off the shelves, people are still going to be overweight and unhealthy.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. This is a thread about improving food quality. No mention of junk food is appropriate here, unless we are condemning it.

It’s appropriate because the vast majority of American general population diet is junk food. The quality of milk, eggs, fruits/vegetables is a moot point because people aren’t even cooking actual food anymore and they don’t want to healthy foods. It’s all about convenience crap. Everyone is too “busy” to cook a decent meal, no matter how simple and affordable it actually is. So unless that culture changes and or junk food is taken off the shelves, people are still going to be overweight and unhealthy.

Anonymous wrote:NP. This is a thread about improving food quality. No mention of junk food is appropriate here, unless we are condemning it.

Anonymous wrote:Just say no to buying processed foods.

I'm looking forward to RFK working in this area.