Anonymous
Post 12/23/2024 07:04     Subject: In-Pool Results Thread 2024
Why are you all giving the pyramid but not the specific school? Its the elementary school scores that matter for top ten percent. The pyramid is not relevant.
Anonymous
Post 12/23/2024 06:49     Subject: In-Pool Results Thread 2024
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Anonymous wrote:Do people actually get scores that are not in the 90th percentile? I feel like DCUM is giving me a very skewed perception


Definitely skewed. If you go by this forum, you'd think 90% of kids get 140 or higher on the COGAT.


This is an AAP forum. Most/all kids in AAP would have scores higher than 130. Im not sure what percentile that is but I’m assuming 90+.


130 composite is the 97th percentile nationally. Which is why it seems weird when so many post scores that are in such a high percentile, and in some schools, the 97th percentile isn't enough.


Someone else pointed out on this forum that the top 10% in a class of 25 translates to the top 2-3 kids. If you keep that fact in mind, it's a lot less surprising to find out that there are some schools where 97% isn't high enough. All it would take is 2-3 kids scoring higher than 97% to bump that 97% kid out of the top 10%. Given how highly educated this area is, it's actually not that weird.


There are very few, probably under 5, that have a class with only 25 kids. We were at Fox Mill ES, a smaller school, and had about 90 kids each grade. Ten percent was a small number of kids, 9-10, but parents know that they can refer if they want. Most schools have classes that are larger and the number of kids covered is greater.
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2024 23:54     Subject: In-Pool Results Thread 2024
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do people actually get scores that are not in the 90th percentile? I feel like DCUM is giving me a very skewed perception


Definitely skewed. If you go by this forum, you'd think 90% of kids get 140 or higher on the COGAT.


This is an AAP forum. Most/all kids in AAP would have scores higher than 130. Im not sure what percentile that is but I’m assuming 90+.


130 composite is the 97th percentile nationally. Which is why it seems weird when so many post scores that are in such a high percentile, and in some schools, the 97th percentile isn't enough.


Someone else pointed out on this forum that the top 10% in a class of 25 translates to the top 2-3 kids. If you keep that fact in mind, it's a lot less surprising to find out that there are some schools where 97% isn't high enough. All it would take is 2-3 kids scoring higher than 97% to bump that 97% kid out of the top 10%. Given how highly educated this area is, it's actually not that weird.
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2024 23:37     Subject: In-Pool Results Thread 2024
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do people actually get scores that are not in the 90th percentile? I feel like DCUM is giving me a very skewed perception


Definitely skewed. If you go by this forum, you'd think 90% of kids get 140 or higher on the COGAT.


This is an AAP forum. Most/all kids in AAP would have scores higher than 130. Im not sure what percentile that is but I’m assuming 90+.


130 composite is the 97th percentile nationally. Which is why it seems weird when so many post scores that are in such a high percentile, and in some schools, the 97th percentile isn't enough.


Pp here. My older kids got into AAP in the old system where you only had to have one score above 132 to be in pool. Both scored around 120 on NNAT and that was 87th percentile or something around there. Their cogat scores were both over 140.
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2024 19:50     Subject: In-Pool Results Thread 2024
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do people actually get scores that are not in the 90th percentile? I feel like DCUM is giving me a very skewed perception


Definitely skewed. If you go by this forum, you'd think 90% of kids get 140 or higher on the COGAT.


This is an AAP forum. Most/all kids in AAP would have scores higher than 130. Im not sure what percentile that is but I’m assuming 90+.


130 composite is the 97th percentile nationally. Which is why it seems weird when so many post scores that are in such a high percentile, and in some schools, the 97th percentile isn't enough.
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2024 19:17     Subject: In-Pool Results Thread 2024
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do people actually get scores that are not in the 90th percentile? I feel like DCUM is giving me a very skewed perception


Definitely skewed. If you go by this forum, you'd think 90% of kids get 140 or higher on the COGAT.


This is an AAP forum. Most/all kids in AAP would have scores higher than 130. Im not sure what percentile that is but I’m assuming 90+.
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2024 18:40     Subject: In-Pool Results Thread 2024
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do people actually get scores that are not in the 90th percentile? I feel like DCUM is giving me a very skewed perception


Definitely skewed. If you go by this forum, you'd think 90% of kids get 140 or higher on the COGAT.


Absolutely. This is an extremely self-selected bunch. The same is true about I-Ready, NNAT, etc.
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2024 16:37     Subject: In-Pool Results Thread 2024
Anonymous wrote:Do people actually get scores that are not in the 90th percentile? I feel like DCUM is giving me a very skewed perception


Definitely skewed. If you go by this forum, you'd think 90% of kids get 140 or higher on the COGAT.
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2024 16:02     Subject: In-Pool Results Thread 2024
Do people actually get scores that are not in the 90th percentile? I feel like DCUM is giving me a very skewed perception
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2024 11:39     Subject: In-Pool Results Thread 2024
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Anonymous wrote:Is this the first year they are doing local in pool determinations?


No. It was local norms last year, and I believe for a bit before that as well.


At least 2 years. I think it started when fcps wanted more diversity at TJ. I remember there being discussions that it is too late by middle school and kids need to be captured earlier.
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2024 11:07     Subject: In-Pool Results Thread 2024
Anonymous wrote:Is this the first year they are doing local in pool determinations?


No. It was local norms last year, and I believe for a bit before that as well.
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2024 10:56     Subject: In-Pool Results Thread 2024
Is this the first year they are doing local in pool determinations?
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2024 06:55     Subject: In-Pool Results Thread 2024
Anonymous wrote:Cogat: 126
NNAT: 123
Pyramid: Lake Braddock
In Pool (yes/no): yes

Plus parent and teacher referred.
Which school? Mine is really similar but not in pool in Kings Glen
Cogat: 122
NNAT: 127
Pyramid: Lake Braddock
In Pool (yes/no): no
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2024 22:20     Subject: In-Pool Results Thread 2024
Cogat: 126
NNAT: 123
Pyramid: Lake Braddock
In Pool (yes/no): yes

Plus parent and teacher referred.
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2024 21:17     Subject: In-Pool Results Thread 2024
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Im curious to know what does it mean " Teacher reference ",have never heard before .Also curious to know if your kid was in level II advance in Math ?


My son’s teacher referred him for AAP screening before the CogAT scores qualified him for the pool, back in October I think?

And yes technically my son is supposed to receive Level II services for both reading and math but I haven’t seen any evidence of what that entails for him besides being placed in the “high” group in his class.