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Anonymous wrote:this board makes it sounds like every teacher is heading for greener pastures and that no one will fill the roles.

The second part of that statement is correct. My neighbor is a mentor teacher for a local university that has a large education department. She said she used to supervise 40 student teachers every year and most used to go into teaching when they graduated. This year there are 15 students who are doing student teaching and a few of those have other plans outside of teaching.

Most of the incoming teachers at my school are alternatively trained. They have a crash summer program before they start teaching. That’s it. Trust me. It’s not enough.

I was one of those career switchers that went through an alternative program 12 years ago. The first year was hard, but by year 3 or 4, I was being recognized for my skills just as much as everyone else.

Anonymous wrote:this board makes it sounds like every teacher is heading for greener pastures and that no one will fill the roles.

The second part of that statement is correct. My neighbor is a mentor teacher for a local university that has a large education department. She said she used to supervise 40 student teachers every year and most used to go into teaching when they graduated. This year there are 15 students who are doing student teaching and a few of those have other plans outside of teaching.

Most of the incoming teachers at my school are alternatively trained. They have a crash summer program before they start teaching. That’s it. Trust me. It’s not enough.

Anonymous wrote:this board makes it sounds like every teacher is heading for greener pastures and that no one will fill the roles.

The problem is temporarily resolving itself.

1. The job market sucks for the ones who do want to leave.

2. Because the job market sucks, college students and others who couldn’t get a job are taking a stab at teaching (teacher trainees) and are back filling where a licensed teacher usually would be. Schools will hire anyone lately.

3. Jobs are being filled by teachers abroad.

This same situation happened in 2008 when the economy went bad and teachers stayed at their jobs. Doesn’t mean the boost is permanent especially if things go sideways with “getting rid of the department of education”.

this board makes it sounds like every teacher is heading for greener pastures and that no one will fill the roles.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I have to ask:

- are you Karl Frisch?

Since there has not been a refutation, it stands to reason the OP of this thread is in fact, Karl Frisch.

That's a severe abuse of the word "reason".

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Anonymous wrote:No one ever posts positive news here. FCPS teachers are staying. Looks like Reid is doing something right. The article also talks about the foreign teachers being hired. I do not have experience with any of these, but I imagine it must be horrible for a teacher to come from a nation where teachers are respected, to one with such awful parents and their entitled, bratty students. Also the lack of discipline. I'm curious about the retention rate for the foreign teachers.

https://wtop.com/fairfax-county/2024/12/fairfax-co-schools-reaches-teacher-retention-benchmark-for-1st-time-in-4-years/

Great so we can stop hearing about how miserable their working conditions are and opt out of whatever horror the PTA has in store for appreciation week? Problem solved?

Sounds like homeschooling is right for you.

No thanks I pay for the public services same as anyone else— but I’m glad we can stop having threads about how fragile teachers are and how ready to abandon their jobs at a hint of adversity. Let’s start bringing the highway department a week of breakfasts and give the sanitation workers early days off for training.

I’m sorry you aren’t appreciated at your job.

I am, thanks for asking. But no one at my job thinks bringing me breakfast is the magic bullet to keeping me in the workplace, and I don’t respond to any criticism of my profession by hyperventilating that this is why people will leave the profession…

Criticism? People on this forum call teachers dumb losers. That’s not criticism, that’s hate.

DP. Sure, it’s hate. But it comes from people who don’t have a remote clue what teaching is like. It’s hard to take that criticism seriously.

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Anonymous wrote:No one ever posts positive news here. FCPS teachers are staying. Looks like Reid is doing something right. The article also talks about the foreign teachers being hired. I do not have experience with any of these, but I imagine it must be horrible for a teacher to come from a nation where teachers are respected, to one with such awful parents and their entitled, bratty students. Also the lack of discipline. I'm curious about the retention rate for the foreign teachers.

https://wtop.com/fairfax-county/2024/12/fairfax-co-schools-reaches-teacher-retention-benchmark-for-1st-time-in-4-years/

Great so we can stop hearing about how miserable their working conditions are and opt out of whatever horror the PTA has in store for appreciation week? Problem solved?

Sounds like homeschooling is right for you.

No thanks I pay for the public services same as anyone else— but I’m glad we can stop having threads about how fragile teachers are and how ready to abandon their jobs at a hint of adversity. Let’s start bringing the highway department a week of breakfasts and give the sanitation workers early days off for training.

I’m sorry you aren’t appreciated at your job.

I am, thanks for asking. But no one at my job thinks bringing me breakfast is the magic bullet to keeping me in the workplace, and I don’t respond to any criticism of my profession by hyperventilating that this is why people will leave the profession…

People think providing a breakfast retains school staff?

And that only happens 1-3 times a year, so no one thinks that.

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Anonymous wrote:No one ever posts positive news here. FCPS teachers are staying. Looks like Reid is doing something right. The article also talks about the foreign teachers being hired. I do not have experience with any of these, but I imagine it must be horrible for a teacher to come from a nation where teachers are respected, to one with such awful parents and their entitled, bratty students. Also the lack of discipline. I'm curious about the retention rate for the foreign teachers.

https://wtop.com/fairfax-county/2024/12/fairfax-co-schools-reaches-teacher-retention-benchmark-for-1st-time-in-4-years/

Great so we can stop hearing about how miserable their working conditions are and opt out of whatever horror the PTA has in store for appreciation week? Problem solved?

Sounds like homeschooling is right for you.

No thanks I pay for the public services same as anyone else— but I’m glad we can stop having threads about how fragile teachers are and how ready to abandon their jobs at a hint of adversity. Let’s start bringing the highway department a week of breakfasts and give the sanitation workers early days off for training.

I’m sorry you aren’t appreciated at your job.

I am, thanks for asking. But no one at my job thinks bringing me breakfast is the magic bullet to keeping me in the workplace, and I don’t respond to any criticism of my profession by hyperventilating that this is why people will leave the profession…

Criticism? People on this forum call teachers dumb losers. That’s not criticism, that’s hate.

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Anonymous wrote:No one ever posts positive news here. FCPS teachers are staying. Looks like Reid is doing something right. The article also talks about the foreign teachers being hired. I do not have experience with any of these, but I imagine it must be horrible for a teacher to come from a nation where teachers are respected, to one with such awful parents and their entitled, bratty students. Also the lack of discipline. I'm curious about the retention rate for the foreign teachers.

https://wtop.com/fairfax-county/2024/12/fairfax-co-schools-reaches-teacher-retention-benchmark-for-1st-time-in-4-years/

Dr Reid....is this you?

It is either Dr Reid or Karl Frisch who created this thread.

Anonymous wrote:Didn’t Reid come out and say the foreign teacher program had problems because a lot of the candidates misrepresented their English abilities? They have to be very careful what countries they hire from and even then, there are still going to be people who aren’t completely fluent in English even though they say they are.

Can confirm. It’s anecdotal, I get it… My sophomore’s Spanish 3 teacher - who is very nice - barely speaks English and uses Google translate when sending emails to my student & myself.

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Anonymous wrote:No one ever posts positive news here. FCPS teachers are staying. Looks like Reid is doing something right. The article also talks about the foreign teachers being hired. I do not have experience with any of these, but I imagine it must be horrible for a teacher to come from a nation where teachers are respected, to one with such awful parents and their entitled, bratty students. Also the lack of discipline. I'm curious about the retention rate for the foreign teachers.

https://wtop.com/fairfax-county/2024/12/fairfax-co-schools-reaches-teacher-retention-benchmark-for-1st-time-in-4-years/

Great so we can stop hearing about how miserable their working conditions are and opt out of whatever horror the PTA has in store for appreciation week? Problem solved?

Sounds like homeschooling is right for you.

No thanks I pay for the public services same as anyone else— but I’m glad we can stop having threads about how fragile teachers are and how ready to abandon their jobs at a hint of adversity. Let’s start bringing the highway department a week of breakfasts and give the sanitation workers early days off for training.

I’m sorry you aren’t appreciated at your job.

I am, thanks for asking. But no one at my job thinks bringing me breakfast is the magic bullet to keeping me in the workplace, and I don’t respond to any criticism of my profession by hyperventilating that this is why people will leave the profession…

People think providing a breakfast retains school staff?

Haha spoiler it doesn't-keep the cookies too

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Anonymous wrote:No one ever posts positive news here. FCPS teachers are staying. Looks like Reid is doing something right. The article also talks about the foreign teachers being hired. I do not have experience with any of these, but I imagine it must be horrible for a teacher to come from a nation where teachers are respected, to one with such awful parents and their entitled, bratty students. Also the lack of discipline. I'm curious about the retention rate for the foreign teachers.

https://wtop.com/fairfax-county/2024/12/fairfax-co-schools-reaches-teacher-retention-benchmark-for-1st-time-in-4-years/

Great so we can stop hearing about how miserable their working conditions are and opt out of whatever horror the PTA has in store for appreciation week? Problem solved?

Sounds like homeschooling is right for you.

No thanks I pay for the public services same as anyone else— but I’m glad we can stop having threads about how fragile teachers are and how ready to abandon their jobs at a hint of adversity. Let’s start bringing the highway department a week of breakfasts and give the sanitation workers early days off for training.

LOL....quite a tantrum someone is feeling unappreciated in life.

I need to see the actual data from which the numbers were drawn because I don't believe this for a minute. First of all, there was a massive loss of teachers around the time of COVID because that was just an absolute shit show. So to say numbers are up after that isn't saying much. Second of all, what teachers are we referring to? If this includes trainees and whatnot, then all you're doing is hiding the actual problem, lack of trained teachers, and pretending everything is fine.

Given that the BOS has made it clear already that they don't plan on fully funding the FCPS budget, I think we all know that not giving the 7% raise that was bargained plus the 15% jump in healthcare premiums and the increase in overall healthcare costs will cause a dip in those retention numbers.

Anonymous wrote:Would love to see where they got these numbers from. It seems to go against their own data.

https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/DASPTA6622D8/$file/Monthly%20Separation%20Report%20October%201%2C%202024%20to%20October%2031%2C%202024.pdf

Your data is the month of October. The WTOP article referenced year-over-year data.

Would love to see where they got these numbers from. It seems to go against their own data.

https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/DASPTA6622D8/$file/Monthly%20Separation%20Report%20October%201%2C%202024%20to%20October%2031%2C%202024.pdf