Anonymous
12/07/2024 18:05
Subject: Re:Trump in France w world leaders
lol you are missing the biggest degenerate rapist in your little list- Trump. He was the organizer.
Anonymous
12/07/2024 18:03
Subject: Trump in France w world leaders
Anonymous wrote:OP is a sycophant of Trump. Hey OP why don’t you run a long over to stormfront or Fox News with you propaganda.
Cause they are covering the reason the President of the United States of America did not show up for this important event like many other world leaders.
Anonymous
12/07/2024 17:49
Subject: Trump in France w world leaders
Anonymous wrote:I find this funny. Trump IS a freak show. In the first term, he was generally regarded with disdain. Boorish. Crude. Stupid. Bad American. And so on. Europeans in particular felt completely free piling on Trump.
But I think now, world leaders respect this guy. One, he wasn't wrong about a lot of issues. And second, after suffering a loss that would usually send people into retirement, he came back. These are all politicians that understand the game. And the US is obviously the most powerful country on the planet. And it's a huge market. Every country wants good relations with the US.
There is no more disdain. They all understand Trump needs flattery and all that crap. It's like Louis XIV. Trump is the Sun King. And no one knows what he's going to do - but he's throwing out tariffs and national security issues that really impact a lot of countries. Really impactful things. But they all know being snide or disrespectful is going to cost their countries dearly. Trump is all about personal relationships. So all these presidents and prime ministers and even future kings are being very nice indeed.
Interesting moment in time.
What could possibly have happened in the world since last Trump's term that is causing the Europeans, in particular, to sidle up to Trump?
Anonymous
12/07/2024 17:47
Subject: Re:Trump in France w world leaders
Talking about AUKUS and the Quad. The Emir of Qatar was just in the UK for security and defence talks and was given a state dinner. Maybe now, people will start focusing on the aggression of China in the Indo-Pacific.
Anonymous
12/07/2024 17:45
Subject: Trump in France w world leaders
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Tbh I do wonder why Biden wasn’t there instead. He is the sitting US president. It seems like he should be there.
He was invited and Jill is there. Having to be polite and pleasant to trump is no longer something Biden needs to do.
Biden isn’t there because it is not longer possible to hide is infirmity. That’s it. Having him fall asleep or wander off would distract. And the rest of the world is happy to not have to pretend he is fine. I’m sure Macron is among those who has absolutely known and just been a good ally and helped hide it.
Anonymous
12/07/2024 17:44
Subject: Trump in France w world leaders
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame it's quite beautiful. The restoration is impressive and even Trump's presence there cannot ruin it. It was their way before Trump came along and it will be there way after he is long gone.
See? What did I just say? Always try to find something negative to say.
It's not negative. It's positive. This day is about Notre Dame and the restoration. This day is not about Trump. Pope Francis had it right. Let the cathedral be the center of attention.
So why say that his presence could not ruin the day and mention his mortality. That's pretty negative to me. You could have just stopped at "Notre Dame it's quite beautiful. The restoration is impressive"
Because Trump wants all the attention on him. He doesn't give a damn about Notre Dame but he knows he will be the center of attention for much of the free world's press.
Could it be that the president of the United States is the leader of the free world? Shame that the President of the United States and the current leader of the free world could not be there.
Anonymous
Anonymous
12/07/2024 17:38
Subject: Trump in France w world leaders
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame it's quite beautiful. The restoration is impressive and even Trump's presence there cannot ruin it. It was their way before Trump came along and it will be there way after he is long gone.
See? What did I just say? Always try to find something negative to say.
As Voltaire said: "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere."
Anonymous
12/07/2024 17:36
Subject: Trump in France w world leaders
Anonymous wrote:Tbh I do wonder why Biden wasn’t there instead. He is the sitting US president. It seems like he should be there.
Jill Biden is there representing the United States.
Anonymous
Anonymous
12/07/2024 17:24
Subject: Trump in France w world leaders
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame it's quite beautiful. The restoration is impressive and even Trump's presence there cannot ruin it. It was their way before Trump came along and it will be there way after he is long gone.
See? What did I just say? Always try to find something negative to say.
It's not negative. It's positive. This day is about Notre Dame and the restoration. This day is not about Trump. Pope Francis had it right. Let the cathedral be the center of attention.
So why say that his presence could not ruin the day and mention his mortality. That's pretty negative to me. You could have just stopped at "Notre Dame it's quite beautiful. The restoration is impressive"
Because Trump wants all the attention on him. He doesn't give a damn about Notre Dame but he knows he will be the center of attention for much of the free world's press.
Well at least he gives a damn a bit more than Biden who couldn't bother showing up.
I didn’t know Biden was invited. He should have gone. It’s a huge deal today in France.
France is an ally but hasn't been a world power since it surrendered to Germany in 1940.
Anonymous
12/07/2024 17:18
Subject: Trump in France w world leaders
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame it's quite beautiful. The restoration is impressive and even Trump's presence there cannot ruin it. It was their way before Trump came along and it will be there way after he is long gone.
See? What did I just say? Always try to find something negative to say.
It's not negative. It's positive. This day is about Notre Dame and the restoration. This day is not about Trump. Pope Francis had it right. Let the cathedral be the center of attention.
So why say that his presence could not ruin the day and mention his mortality. That's pretty negative to me. You could have just stopped at "Notre Dame it's quite beautiful. The restoration is impressive"
Because Trump wants all the attention on him. He doesn't give a damn about Notre Dame but he knows he will be the center of attention for much of the free world's press.
Well at least he gives a damn a bit more than Biden who couldn't bother showing up.
This maybe symbolically important to France, but it’s not actually important. Having the spouse of the US President go is perfectly appropriate. This isn’t G7; it’s a symbolic event attended by people who symbolize and represent their country (hence Jill and notJoe, hence the Prince William and not the King or PM)
Anonymous
12/07/2024 17:12
Subject: Trump in France w world leaders
Anonymous wrote:I find this funny. Trump IS a freak show. In the first term, he was generally regarded with disdain. Boorish. Crude. Stupid. Bad American. And so on. Europeans in particular felt completely free piling on Trump.
But I think now, world leaders respect this guy. One, he wasn't wrong about a lot of issues. And second, after suffering a loss that would usually send people into retirement, he came back. These are all politicians that understand the game. And the US is obviously the most powerful country on the planet. And it's a huge market. Every country wants good relations with the US.
There is no more disdain. They all understand Trump needs flattery and all that crap. It's like Louis XIV. Trump is the Sun King. And no one knows what he's going to do - but he's throwing out tariffs and national security issues that really impact a lot of countries. Really impactful things. But they all know being snide or disrespectful is going to cost their countries dearly. Trump is all about personal relationships. So all these presidents and prime ministers and even future kings are being very nice indeed.
Interesting moment in time.
I don’t know if they respect him, but they know they need to ingratiate themselves with the American president. I’m about as anti Trump as they get it, but honestly I think this is a good thing. We want countries to take relationships with our country and leader very seriously.
Anonymous
12/07/2024 17:04
Subject: Trump in France w world leaders
Anonymous
12/07/2024 16:49
Subject: Trump in France w world leaders
Trump loves this stuff. It’s like giving a toddler an iPad so the adults can talk in peace. What a clown.