Anonymous wrote:If at a non-Princeton Ivy with less than a 3.6 something is wrong.

From the 2024 Princeton senior survey:

- Over 45 percent of survey respondents reported a 3.8 GPA or higher, averaging higher than an A-minus among all classes taken
- Over 60 percent reported 3.7 GPA or higher
- Over 70 percent 3.6 GPA or higher

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, and those who say otherwise are perpetuating a massive lie. Especially if you want a good internship to set you up for an elite career, you will need a high gpa. People will always say you need "experience." Well, that experience requires a good gpa to actually get the dang position.

Not really true. I had an actual job during college. I worked at a major bank and then VISA. I got into a prestigious training program out of college with a low GPA as I had actual work experience. Ironically you need a high GPA to get internships but not to be an employee at 18-20.

At work we just hired an EVP who is 34. Prior job was SVP. He has 16 years banking experience. He started work full time at 18 and did college at night. You dont need the internship if you already have the job.

No one will give and engineering student an engineering job to work at while they are in school. Even the non college degree jobs like working in a garage which could work for mechanical E maybe require some training.

Sure, you could work for a professor in a lab, but unless you really hit it off with them you will still have to apply for those jobs against people who have higher gas.

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Anonymous wrote:I interview a lot of college seniors every year and they all put their GPA on their resumes. I also look for it.

But let me ask you this: would you say a 3.6 from say an Elon grad was better prepared to work for you than a 2.9 from say Georgetown? I just think there's a big difference in rigor and expectations across universities, so GPA can be hard to distinguish what a person can really do. When I look at candidates, I might consider GPA if it's there, but I look at where they graduated from and when. From there, can they write, can they communicate, are they weirdos?

Nothing w a 2 is good no matter the school. I would say the 3.6 is better. The fact that you are at Georgetown 9or any school) is based on an AOs opinion of you. You were a random pick amongs thousands of similar apps. But the 2.9… that is on you. So the work is too hard for you, or you are working hard enough. The Elon kid is maximizing his opportunities.

Anonymous wrote:Yes, and those who say otherwise are perpetuating a massive lie. Especially if you want a good internship to set you up for an elite career, you will need a high gpa. People will always say you need "experience." Well, that experience requires a good gpa to actually get the dang position.

Not really true. I had an actual job during college. I worked at a major bank and then VISA. I got into a prestigious training program out of college with a low GPA as I had actual work experience. Ironically you need a high GPA to get internships but not to be an employee at 18-20.

At work we just hired an EVP who is 34. Prior job was SVP. He has 16 years banking experience. He started work full time at 18 and did college at night. You dont need the internship if you already have the job.

If at a non-Princeton Ivy with less than a 3.6 something is wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:When hiring I spend about two seconds looking at things like GPA, maybe another two seconds looking at what degree a person has. It might be a red flag for me if it’s low (say, below 3.0 or 3.2) but otherwise I’m not super focused on it. I’m hiring a person, not a resume or a transcript. And for people who have been out of school for a bit I really don’t care.

There are grads who list a sub 3.0? Even a 3.2 on a resume?? Idiots

The application systems often ask for GPA and sometimes ask for transcripts to be uploaded. So we have the info even if they don’t put it on their resume (but yeah, some do).

There are some internships that will list a GPA requirement. Citi, other banks, consulting, etc. these are usually 3.5 and above. Other than that GPA doesn’t matter in that it doesn’t rule the kid out, However - it is a competitive environment and their resume is in a pile with other applicants who have 3.5, 3.7, 3.8 GPAs. So get the GPA up OP.

Anonymous wrote:When hiring I spend about two seconds looking at things like GPA, maybe another two seconds looking at what degree a person has. It might be a red flag for me if it’s low (say, below 3.0 or 3.2) but otherwise I’m not super focused on it. I’m hiring a person, not a resume or a transcript. And for people who have been out of school for a bit I really don’t care.

There are grads who list a sub 3.0? Even a 3.2 on a resume?? Idiots

I have participated in interviewing job candidates at all levels of employment and we have never asked for a college GPA. If the position asks for a degree we checked that they had a degree and that was about it.

I have applied for plenty of jobs and only a few have asked for a college GPA, I think those were mainly government positions. I have had a few jobs ask for transcripts or some proof of completing college but I think that was more because of the explosion of online colleges giving advanced degrees based on experience. One job I applied for asked me to submit my transcripts or a picture of my degree. I don’t think that the employeer actually cared about the GPA, only that the degree was real.

No.

Internships/experience are huge, then the ability to write a good resume and cover letter and get them sent in a way that is clear and prompt in terms of commuication, then speak well in an interview, and probably for most new grads having an "in" is a massive unedeniable boost (parent, professor, career fair contact, friend who is already at the company).

Anonymous wrote:When hiring I spend about two seconds looking at things like GPA, maybe another two seconds looking at what degree a person has. It might be a red flag for me if it’s low (say, below 3.0 or 3.2) but otherwise I’m not super focused on it. I’m hiring a person, not a resume or a transcript. And for people who have been out of school for a bit I really don’t care.

I’ll add to my comment though that some places do have screens for minimum GPA for entry level jobs, so there’s that.

When hiring I spend about two seconds looking at things like GPA, maybe another two seconds looking at what degree a person has. It might be a red flag for me if it’s low (say, below 3.0 or 3.2) but otherwise I’m not super focused on it. I’m hiring a person, not a resume or a transcript. And for people who have been out of school for a bit I really don’t care.

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Anonymous wrote:No. All you need on a resume is an accurate graduation date. Include magna or summa cum laude if you earned it, but that’s it.

That's definitely not true for federal gov't. jobs, which will require a GPA no matter how long you've been working.

That cannot possibly be true. Who on earth looks at GPAs of people out of school for years? Thank goodness things are going to change in federal government.

PP here. I completely agree with you, but sadly - it is true. Hopefully not for much longer.

Anonymous wrote:I interview a lot of college seniors every year and they all put their GPA on their resumes. I also look for it.

+-. It's important. How else will the interviewer make a cut in applications? I was valedictorian at my LAC and that opened all sorts of doors.

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Anonymous wrote:Undergraduate 3.67 Religion.
Graduate Community Planning 4.0

Can't find a job to save my life.

I mean, are you surprised?

What do you want to do with these majors?

Urban planning can get you a ton of jobs. Every city has a massive bureaucracy for a reason.

Ummm, obviously not. This person cannot find a job to save their life.