Anonymous
Post 12/05/2024 13:31     Subject: New social media trend from Sweden: the 'Soft girl' ?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is interesting! Noticed on the BBC site this AM that the latest trend out of Sweden is for employed women to abandon careers to become what the Swedish call 'Soft girls.' This is the artical:


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0j1wwypygxo

At first I was kinda horrified; NGL. But maybe this could be overall good? Im intrigued.


I agree with it. I have not worked since I had my children 20 years ago (have business interests so I have an income as a silent partner) but do not report to an office and I love it. Moms I know that try to do it all are stressed out and not doing it all. Something usually gives and sadly it is their kids. The moms go to work, they work out, they look great, they attend social events with friends, but what they are missing is their kids. Some day I think they will realize.


You're rich, bozo

The rich have always had this opportunity
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2024 13:30     Subject: New social media trend from Sweden: the 'Soft girl' ?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So the gist of this is that a man is the plan?


You mean like how human life was for thousands of years except the last 50 years of radical feminism? And now wage growth has ceased, everyone is depressed and on SSRIs, and nobody is having (enough) kids.


You're full of it.

You know what women have been for all those thousands of years? Property!

No ability to make their own decisions as a human being.

Radical feminism as you call it is really demanding human rights for half the human population
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2024 13:28     Subject: New social media trend from Sweden: the 'Soft girl' ?
https://www.essence.com/health-and-wellness/living-the-soft-life/

Article about it from last year. It hasn’t always been about not working, but like all internet trends, it has been twisted.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2024 13:22     Subject: New social media trend from Sweden: the 'Soft girl' ?
Anonymous wrote:This is interesting! Noticed on the BBC site this AM that the latest trend out of Sweden is for employed women to abandon careers to become what the Swedish call 'Soft girls.' This is the artical:


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0j1wwypygxo

At first I was kinda horrified; NGL. But maybe this could be overall good? Im intrigued.


I agree with it. I have not worked since I had my children 20 years ago (have business interests so I have an income as a silent partner) but do not report to an office and I love it. Moms I know that try to do it all are stressed out and not doing it all. Something usually gives and sadly it is their kids. The moms go to work, they work out, they look great, they attend social events with friends, but what they are missing is their kids. Some day I think they will realize.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2024 13:04     Subject: New social media trend from Sweden: the 'Soft girl' ?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So the gist of this is that a man is the plan?


You mean like how human life was for thousands of years except the last 50 years of radical feminism? And now wage growth has ceased, everyone is depressed and on SSRIs, and nobody is having (enough) kids.


"The man is the plan" is not "how human life was for thousands of years except the last 50 years of radical feminism." Humans pretty similar to us have existed for about 100,000 years and were hunter-gatherers for 85,000 years until agriculture developed. We've only been living in large groups with technology for about 10,000 years. Even within the last 10,000 years, most human societies outside of cities have been organized around extended families and small local communities, not modern nuclear families.

A SAHM married to a man who works for a wage while they raise children without support from other family or community is a complete historical anomaly--human life for thousands of years involved men and women working (hunting, gathering--or the more modern farming and raising animals) and raising their families (preparing food, maintaining shelter, making tools, teaching children) together, day in and day out. No "soft life" for anyone.
True. Furthermore, only rich women, and during its brief existence, the MC women were SAHMs. LC and poor women have always worked.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2024 13:04     Subject: New social media trend from Sweden: the 'Soft girl' ?
Anonymous wrote:So...she can't break up with him...ever?

If he breaks up with her she has to find a new willing boyfriend asap?


I guess. Or goes back to a different factory job. I think that's the point a PP was making about the women cited in this article. They're probably not as worried about relying on these guys because they're not leaving careers, they're leaving jobs they could reasonably expect to step right back into if it goes south and they can't find another willing guy.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2024 12:56     Subject: New social media trend from Sweden: the 'Soft girl' ?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So the gist of this is that a man is the plan?


You mean like how human life was for thousands of years except the last 50 years of radical feminism? And now wage growth has ceased, everyone is depressed and on SSRIs, and nobody is having (enough) kids.


"The man is the plan" is not "how human life was for thousands of years except the last 50 years of radical feminism." Humans pretty similar to us have existed for about 100,000 years and were hunter-gatherers for 85,000 years until agriculture developed. We've only been living in large groups with technology for about 10,000 years. Even within the last 10,000 years, most human societies outside of cities have been organized around extended families and small local communities, not modern nuclear families.

A SAHM married to a man who works for a wage while they raise children without support from other family or community is a complete historical anomaly--human life for thousands of years involved men and women working (hunting, gathering--or the more modern farming and raising animals) and raising their families (preparing food, maintaining shelter, making tools, teaching children) together, day in and day out. No "soft life" for anyone.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2024 12:41     Subject: New social media trend from Sweden: the 'Soft girl' ?
Anonymous wrote:It’s likely a thing in Sweden because Scandinavian countries have really pushed equality and men and women have very similar expectations.

While in theory it should be easier to be a woman there it doesn’t seem that way in practice.

Not surprised women are pushing back.


I have a few friends who live in Sweden and they rave about it. They’re all lawyers married to hot skilled tradesmen who are hands on dads with zero ego and machismo, and the maternity leave, day care and health care situations are amazing. The only thing they don’t like is the food.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2024 12:37     Subject: New social media trend from Sweden: the 'Soft girl' ?
Social media trends are painfully stupid.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2024 12:35     Subject: New social media trend from Sweden: the 'Soft girl' ?
Anonymous wrote:There was a bit on WTOP this morning about “trad wives” and they mentioned it is “sweeping Sweden” and there was an interview with a woman in Sweden who was going on about how her life is “softer.”

Weird.


Ha! See? I am vindicated.

I am the OP and while I didnt hear the wtop bit, it proves this really is something new and its something Swedish.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2024 12:33     Subject: New social media trend from Sweden: the 'Soft girl' ?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is interesting! Noticed on the BBC site this AM that the latest trend out of Sweden is for employed women to abandon careers to become what the Swedish call 'Soft girls.' This is the artical:


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0j1wwypygxo

At first I was kinda horrified; NGL. But maybe this could be overall good? Im intrigued.

I would also be happy to quit my job if my jobs were: "grocery store, a care home and a factory", per the article.

Thankfully, I work in tech and get paid well. I don't want to quit my job.


That's the part we're not supposed to say out loud. A lot of these women just don't have great options to begin with.


Did y’all know that in Sweden every single one of those jobs you listed pays a living wage?

Wonder what your plan is when your tech job goes away in the next decade…


A living wage isn't necessarily a good wage, and the jobs listed aren't stimulating. I'd be far more inclined to want to stay home if I was making a living wage working in a factory than if I was making a good wage running a business or practicing medicine.


Bingo.

What equality has done in Scandinavia is pushed all women to remain in the workforce. So many women work complete BS jobs because just like men, they are expected to have a job. Additionally, they often have separate finances from their partner. They are essentially on their own and the system means they must work.

We don’t have paid leave here because continuing to work isn’t the goal for most women. Most women with young kids in the US don’t want to return to work when a child is one, two etc.

Anonymous
Post 12/05/2024 12:30     Subject: New social media trend from Sweden: the 'Soft girl' ?
It’s likely a thing in Sweden because Scandinavian countries have really pushed equality and men and women have very similar expectations.

While in theory it should be easier to be a woman there it doesn’t seem that way in practice.

Not surprised women are pushing back.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2024 12:30     Subject: New social media trend from Sweden: the 'Soft girl' ?
Anonymous wrote:It’s not new, and it’s not Swedish.
It’s been a huge thing online for a few years and generally falls into two categories: (1) white women who are into the “trad” thing, with a strong undercurrent of S&M, and (2) black women who are fed up with “struggle love” and want to “rest in their feminine”, ie want sugar daddies. Neither group is actually interested in a normal healthy partnership that falls along traditional gender norms. Maybe the Swedish women do. They’re less ridiculous in general.


There is not a lot of healthy partnership happening for Black women which is the point of the “soft life” behavior and breaking the cycle of struggle.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2024 12:28     Subject: New social media trend from Sweden: the 'Soft girl' ?
So...she can't break up with him...ever?

If he breaks up with her she has to find a new willing boyfriend asap?
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2024 12:17     Subject: New social media trend from Sweden: the 'Soft girl' ?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is interesting! Noticed on the BBC site this AM that the latest trend out of Sweden is for employed women to abandon careers to become what the Swedish call 'Soft girls.' This is the artical:


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0j1wwypygxo

At first I was kinda horrified; NGL. But maybe this could be overall good? Im intrigued.

I would also be happy to quit my job if my jobs were: "grocery store, a care home and a factory", per the article.

Thankfully, I work in tech and get paid well. I don't want to quit my job.


That's the part we're not supposed to say out loud. A lot of these women just don't have great options to begin with.


Did y’all know that in Sweden every single one of those jobs you listed pays a living wage?

Wonder what your plan is when your tech job goes away in the next decade…


A living wage isn't necessarily a good wage, and the jobs listed aren't stimulating. I'd be far more inclined to want to stay home if I was making a living wage working in a factory than if I was making a good wage running a business or practicing medicine.


Just as I thought. You have no idea what you’re talking about. You just reflexively look down on blue collar jobs. Typical modern American “feminist”.


NP. Wouldn't anyone rather stay home, pursue creative outlets, and "relax in their feminine" than empty bed pans or stock shelves just for a wage that's "livable?" I know I sure as hell would!