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Anonymous wrote:I just ignore the signs. At some point the city council and DDOT became like parents who nag/criticize their children over every single thing they do. At some point, the child just tunes them out and drivers will do the same.

DDOT needs to learn that if its rules seem arbitrary or pointless to drivers, they will just ignore them. That includes unnecessary stop signs and traffic lights and unreasonably low speed limits and banning right turns for no good reason. If drivers are breaking traffic laws, maybe DDOT should look in the mirror.

You're making a good argument for suspending or revoking a lot of people's drivers licenses. If drivers can't drive safely and lawfully, they shouldn't have a driver's license.

Drivers are mostly black, brown and not rich. Are those the people you think our government likes to crack down upon?

Weird point. Not to mention that your premise is objectively false - but generally accurate for pedestrians who are hit and injured by drivers.

You new here? Welcome to DC. You'll find that housing is really expensive here. White people are far more likely than black or brown people to be able to afford to live within walking or bicycling distance of where they need to go, which is why white people are always talking about bicycling and pedestrians and black and brown people are not.

D.C. parking, traffic tickets snowball into financial hardships

Traffic and parking tickets are issued more often in Black neighborhoods than White ones, according to D.C. data analyzed by The Washington Post. Advocates for changing the District’s fees and fines system say the disparities criminalize poverty.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2021/08/06/dc-traffic-parking-tickets-black-neighborhoods/

Let's see, who is more likely to be able to afford to own and drive a car? Affluent people, or poor people?

How in the hell do you think people who live far away from their jobs, who don't have the luxury of working remotely, are getting to work?

The bus.

Biking is even cheaper than the bus and, during rush hour, faster than driving or riding the bus. More people should bike. But I guess it’s hard for people living the poorest parts of the city to do so when the Ward 8 councilmember has effectively banned DDOT from building any bike lanes in his ward.

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Anonymous wrote:I just ignore the signs. At some point the city council and DDOT became like parents who nag/criticize their children over every single thing they do. At some point, the child just tunes them out and drivers will do the same.

DDOT needs to learn that if its rules seem arbitrary or pointless to drivers, they will just ignore them. That includes unnecessary stop signs and traffic lights and unreasonably low speed limits and banning right turns for no good reason. If drivers are breaking traffic laws, maybe DDOT should look in the mirror.

You're making a good argument for suspending or revoking a lot of people's drivers licenses. If drivers can't drive safely and lawfully, they shouldn't have a driver's license.

Drivers are mostly black, brown and not rich. Are those the people you think our government likes to crack down upon?

Weird point. Not to mention that your premise is objectively false - but generally accurate for pedestrians who are hit and injured by drivers.

You new here? Welcome to DC. You'll find that housing is really expensive here. White people are far more likely than black or brown people to be able to afford to live within walking or bicycling distance of where they need to go, which is why white people are always talking about bicycling and pedestrians and black and brown people are not.

D.C. parking, traffic tickets snowball into financial hardships

Traffic and parking tickets are issued more often in Black neighborhoods than White ones, according to D.C. data analyzed by The Washington Post. Advocates for changing the District’s fees and fines system say the disparities criminalize poverty.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2021/08/06/dc-traffic-parking-tickets-black-neighborhoods/

Let's see, who is more likely to be able to afford to own and drive a car? Affluent people, or poor people?

How in the hell do you think people who live far away from their jobs, who don't have the luxury of working remotely, are getting to work?

Seriously. Poor people may not be buying Teslas but they have cars. SMH

Middle-class people unable to imagine that people might not have cars.

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Anonymous wrote:I just ignore the signs. At some point the city council and DDOT became like parents who nag/criticize their children over every single thing they do. At some point, the child just tunes them out and drivers will do the same.

DDOT needs to learn that if its rules seem arbitrary or pointless to drivers, they will just ignore them. That includes unnecessary stop signs and traffic lights and unreasonably low speed limits and banning right turns for no good reason. If drivers are breaking traffic laws, maybe DDOT should look in the mirror.

You're making a good argument for suspending or revoking a lot of people's drivers licenses. If drivers can't drive safely and lawfully, they shouldn't have a driver's license.

Drivers are mostly black, brown and not rich. Are those the people you think our government likes to crack down upon?

Weird point. Not to mention that your premise is objectively false - but generally accurate for pedestrians who are hit and injured by drivers.

You new here? Welcome to DC. You'll find that housing is really expensive here. White people are far more likely than black or brown people to be able to afford to live within walking or bicycling distance of where they need to go, which is why white people are always talking about bicycling and pedestrians and black and brown people are not.

D.C. parking, traffic tickets snowball into financial hardships

Traffic and parking tickets are issued more often in Black neighborhoods than White ones, according to D.C. data analyzed by The Washington Post. Advocates for changing the District’s fees and fines system say the disparities criminalize poverty.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2021/08/06/dc-traffic-parking-tickets-black-neighborhoods/

Let's see, who is more likely to be able to afford to own and drive a car? Affluent people, or poor people?

How in the hell do you think people who live far away from their jobs, who don't have the luxury of working remotely, are getting to work?

Seriously. Poor people may not be buying Teslas but they have cars. SMH

Anonymous wrote:LOL at the blame SUV/Trucks crowd. We can actually see better than the prius and fiat drivers.

The real answer is that there are just too many bad drivers/people who just can't be trusted to be smart or courteous to safely turn right on red. It sucks as someone who commutes through the city daily, but I kind of understand it. Some people are just self-absorbed morons.

No, no you really cannot. I am a 6'1" freak of nature lady and encountered a recent year (it looked brand-new) model F150 in the parking garage at Wegmans the other day. I walked straight up to the front end on it and literally the top of the front end where the hood is was just slight ABOVE my eye level.

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Anonymous wrote:I just ignore the signs. At some point the city council and DDOT became like parents who nag/criticize their children over every single thing they do. At some point, the child just tunes them out and drivers will do the same.

DDOT needs to learn that if its rules seem arbitrary or pointless to drivers, they will just ignore them. That includes unnecessary stop signs and traffic lights and unreasonably low speed limits and banning right turns for no good reason. If drivers are breaking traffic laws, maybe DDOT should look in the mirror.

You're making a good argument for suspending or revoking a lot of people's drivers licenses. If drivers can't drive safely and lawfully, they shouldn't have a driver's license.

Drivers are mostly black, brown and not rich. Are those the people you think our government likes to crack down upon?

Weird point. Not to mention that your premise is objectively false - but generally accurate for pedestrians who are hit and injured by drivers.

You new here? Welcome to DC. You'll find that housing is really expensive here. White people are far more likely than black or brown people to be able to afford to live within walking or bicycling distance of where they need to go, which is why white people are always talking about bicycling and pedestrians and black and brown people are not.

D.C. parking, traffic tickets snowball into financial hardships

Traffic and parking tickets are issued more often in Black neighborhoods than White ones, according to D.C. data analyzed by The Washington Post. Advocates for changing the District’s fees and fines system say the disparities criminalize poverty.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2021/08/06/dc-traffic-parking-tickets-black-neighborhoods/

Let's see, who is more likely to be able to afford to own and drive a car? Affluent people, or poor people?

How in the hell do you think people who live far away from their jobs, who don't have the luxury of working remotely, are getting to work?

The bus.

Drivers were shocked by how many bus riders there were on GA ave in an earlier thread. They couldn't comprehend that half the road users were in a bus.

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Anonymous wrote:I just ignore the signs. At some point the city council and DDOT became like parents who nag/criticize their children over every single thing they do. At some point, the child just tunes them out and drivers will do the same.

DDOT needs to learn that if its rules seem arbitrary or pointless to drivers, they will just ignore them. That includes unnecessary stop signs and traffic lights and unreasonably low speed limits and banning right turns for no good reason. If drivers are breaking traffic laws, maybe DDOT should look in the mirror.

You're making a good argument for suspending or revoking a lot of people's drivers licenses. If drivers can't drive safely and lawfully, they shouldn't have a driver's license.

Drivers are mostly black, brown and not rich. Are those the people you think our government likes to crack down upon?

Weird point. Not to mention that your premise is objectively false - but generally accurate for pedestrians who are hit and injured by drivers.

You new here? Welcome to DC. You'll find that housing is really expensive here. White people are far more likely than black or brown people to be able to afford to live within walking or bicycling distance of where they need to go, which is why white people are always talking about bicycling and pedestrians and black and brown people are not.

D.C. parking, traffic tickets snowball into financial hardships

Traffic and parking tickets are issued more often in Black neighborhoods than White ones, according to D.C. data analyzed by The Washington Post. Advocates for changing the District’s fees and fines system say the disparities criminalize poverty.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2021/08/06/dc-traffic-parking-tickets-black-neighborhoods/

Let's see, who is more likely to be able to afford to own and drive a car? Affluent people, or poor people?

How in the hell do you think people who live far away from their jobs, who don't have the luxury of working remotely, are getting to work?

The bus.

Said the white guy in Kalorama who took the bus that one time and it wasn't that bad!

I'm sorry, I don't understand your point. Are you saying poor people don't ride the bus, or do ride the bus?

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Anonymous wrote:I just ignore the signs. At some point the city council and DDOT became like parents who nag/criticize their children over every single thing they do. At some point, the child just tunes them out and drivers will do the same.

DDOT needs to learn that if its rules seem arbitrary or pointless to drivers, they will just ignore them. That includes unnecessary stop signs and traffic lights and unreasonably low speed limits and banning right turns for no good reason. If drivers are breaking traffic laws, maybe DDOT should look in the mirror.

You're making a good argument for suspending or revoking a lot of people's drivers licenses. If drivers can't drive safely and lawfully, they shouldn't have a driver's license.

Drivers are mostly black, brown and not rich. Are those the people you think our government likes to crack down upon?

Weird point. Not to mention that your premise is objectively false - but generally accurate for pedestrians who are hit and injured by drivers.

You new here? Welcome to DC. You'll find that housing is really expensive here. White people are far more likely than black or brown people to be able to afford to live within walking or bicycling distance of where they need to go, which is why white people are always talking about bicycling and pedestrians and black and brown people are not.

D.C. parking, traffic tickets snowball into financial hardships

Traffic and parking tickets are issued more often in Black neighborhoods than White ones, according to D.C. data analyzed by The Washington Post. Advocates for changing the District’s fees and fines system say the disparities criminalize poverty.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2021/08/06/dc-traffic-parking-tickets-black-neighborhoods/

Let's see, who is more likely to be able to afford to own and drive a car? Affluent people, or poor people?

How in the hell do you think people who live far away from their jobs, who don't have the luxury of working remotely, are getting to work?

The bus.

Said the white guy in Kalorama who took the bus that one time and it wasn't that bad!

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Anonymous wrote:I just ignore the signs. At some point the city council and DDOT became like parents who nag/criticize their children over every single thing they do. At some point, the child just tunes them out and drivers will do the same.

DDOT needs to learn that if its rules seem arbitrary or pointless to drivers, they will just ignore them. That includes unnecessary stop signs and traffic lights and unreasonably low speed limits and banning right turns for no good reason. If drivers are breaking traffic laws, maybe DDOT should look in the mirror.

You're making a good argument for suspending or revoking a lot of people's drivers licenses. If drivers can't drive safely and lawfully, they shouldn't have a driver's license.

Drivers are mostly black, brown and not rich. Are those the people you think our government likes to crack down upon?

Weird point. Not to mention that your premise is objectively false - but generally accurate for pedestrians who are hit and injured by drivers.

You new here? Welcome to DC. You'll find that housing is really expensive here. White people are far more likely than black or brown people to be able to afford to live within walking or bicycling distance of where they need to go, which is why white people are always talking about bicycling and pedestrians and black and brown people are not.

D.C. parking, traffic tickets snowball into financial hardships

Traffic and parking tickets are issued more often in Black neighborhoods than White ones, according to D.C. data analyzed by The Washington Post. Advocates for changing the District’s fees and fines system say the disparities criminalize poverty.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2021/08/06/dc-traffic-parking-tickets-black-neighborhoods/

Let's see, who is more likely to be able to afford to own and drive a car? Affluent people, or poor people?

How in the hell do you think people who live far away from their jobs, who don't have the luxury of working remotely, are getting to work?

The bus.

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Anonymous wrote:I just ignore the signs. At some point the city council and DDOT became like parents who nag/criticize their children over every single thing they do. At some point, the child just tunes them out and drivers will do the same.

DDOT needs to learn that if its rules seem arbitrary or pointless to drivers, they will just ignore them. That includes unnecessary stop signs and traffic lights and unreasonably low speed limits and banning right turns for no good reason. If drivers are breaking traffic laws, maybe DDOT should look in the mirror.

You're making a good argument for suspending or revoking a lot of people's drivers licenses. If drivers can't drive safely and lawfully, they shouldn't have a driver's license.

Drivers are mostly black, brown and not rich. Are those the people you think our government likes to crack down upon?

Weird point. Not to mention that your premise is objectively false - but generally accurate for pedestrians who are hit and injured by drivers.

You new here? Welcome to DC. You'll find that housing is really expensive here. White people are far more likely than black or brown people to be able to afford to live within walking or bicycling distance of where they need to go, which is why white people are always talking about bicycling and pedestrians and black and brown people are not.

D.C. parking, traffic tickets snowball into financial hardships

Traffic and parking tickets are issued more often in Black neighborhoods than White ones, according to D.C. data analyzed by The Washington Post. Advocates for changing the District’s fees and fines system say the disparities criminalize poverty.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2021/08/06/dc-traffic-parking-tickets-black-neighborhoods/

Let's see, who is more likely to be able to afford to own and drive a car? Affluent people, or poor people?

How in the hell do you think people who live far away from their jobs, who don't have the luxury of working remotely, are getting to work?

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Anonymous wrote:I just ignore the signs. At some point the city council and DDOT became like parents who nag/criticize their children over every single thing they do. At some point, the child just tunes them out and drivers will do the same.

DDOT needs to learn that if its rules seem arbitrary or pointless to drivers, they will just ignore them. That includes unnecessary stop signs and traffic lights and unreasonably low speed limits and banning right turns for no good reason. If drivers are breaking traffic laws, maybe DDOT should look in the mirror.

You're making a good argument for suspending or revoking a lot of people's drivers licenses. If drivers can't drive safely and lawfully, they shouldn't have a driver's license.

Drivers are mostly black, brown and not rich. Are those the people you think our government likes to crack down upon?

Weird point. Not to mention that your premise is objectively false - but generally accurate for pedestrians who are hit and injured by drivers.

You new here? Welcome to DC. You'll find that housing is really expensive here. White people are far more likely than black or brown people to be able to afford to live within walking or bicycling distance of where they need to go, which is why white people are always talking about bicycling and pedestrians and black and brown people are not.

D.C. parking, traffic tickets snowball into financial hardships

Traffic and parking tickets are issued more often in Black neighborhoods than White ones, according to D.C. data analyzed by The Washington Post. Advocates for changing the District’s fees and fines system say the disparities criminalize poverty.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2021/08/06/dc-traffic-parking-tickets-black-neighborhoods/

There was a story about DDOT trying to sell bike lanes in Michigan Park and the residents told them to GTFO.

"How can you come into a Black and Brown, low-income community and tell us what we need?"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/11/15/bike-lanes-road-safety-south-dakota-avenue/

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Anonymous wrote:I've just noticed all the "new" (to me) signs for No Turn On Red. Why? It seems more dangerous for pedestrians crossing the street as cars that have been obeying the law (sitting there with no traffic coming, now try to turn while pedestrians/bikes are crossing. When are the cars supposed to go, especially on pedestrian heavy crosswalks? Sigh...I need to start going to the council meetings.

Because Right Turn On Red is dangerous for pedestrians, and we have known that since at least the mid 1980s.

The drivers are supposed to turn on green, when there's nobody in the crosswalk. If there's somebody in the crosswalk when you have a green light, then you should wait.

At a busy intersection, this will never happen if they don't delay the Walk signal for pedestrians!! I've been nearly hit multiple times while in the crosswalk, with the walk signal, as cars turn in front of me or behind me trying to make the light! Let them turn on red! Put red light cameras to catch those people that don't come to a complete stop.

To be fair, I have noticed an increase in the delayed light changes for pedestrians in concert with the no turn on red signs in DC along my commute.

+1 all the walk signs on my route have a 4 blink head start.

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Anonymous wrote:I just ignore the signs. At some point the city council and DDOT became like parents who nag/criticize their children over every single thing they do. At some point, the child just tunes them out and drivers will do the same.

DDOT needs to learn that if its rules seem arbitrary or pointless to drivers, they will just ignore them. That includes unnecessary stop signs and traffic lights and unreasonably low speed limits and banning right turns for no good reason. If drivers are breaking traffic laws, maybe DDOT should look in the mirror.

You're making a good argument for suspending or revoking a lot of people's drivers licenses. If drivers can't drive safely and lawfully, they shouldn't have a driver's license.

Drivers are mostly black, brown and not rich. Are those the people you think our government likes to crack down upon?

Weird point. Not to mention that your premise is objectively false - but generally accurate for pedestrians who are hit and injured by drivers.

You new here? Welcome to DC. You'll find that housing is really expensive here. White people are far more likely than black or brown people to be able to afford to live within walking or bicycling distance of where they need to go, which is why white people are always talking about bicycling and pedestrians and black and brown people are not.

D.C. parking, traffic tickets snowball into financial hardships

Traffic and parking tickets are issued more often in Black neighborhoods than White ones, according to D.C. data analyzed by The Washington Post. Advocates for changing the District’s fees and fines system say the disparities criminalize poverty.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2021/08/06/dc-traffic-parking-tickets-black-neighborhoods/

Let's see, who is more likely to be able to afford to own and drive a car? Affluent people, or poor people?

DP. Cheap cars are cheap. Everyone can afford a car.

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Anonymous wrote:I just ignore the signs. At some point the city council and DDOT became like parents who nag/criticize their children over every single thing they do. At some point, the child just tunes them out and drivers will do the same.

DDOT needs to learn that if its rules seem arbitrary or pointless to drivers, they will just ignore them. That includes unnecessary stop signs and traffic lights and unreasonably low speed limits and banning right turns for no good reason. If drivers are breaking traffic laws, maybe DDOT should look in the mirror.

You're making a good argument for suspending or revoking a lot of people's drivers licenses. If drivers can't drive safely and lawfully, they shouldn't have a driver's license.

Drivers are mostly black, brown and not rich. Are those the people you think our government likes to crack down upon?

Weird point. Not to mention that your premise is objectively false - but generally accurate for pedestrians who are hit and injured by drivers.

You new here? Welcome to DC. You'll find that housing is really expensive here. White people are far more likely than black or brown people to be able to afford to live within walking or bicycling distance of where they need to go, which is why white people are always talking about bicycling and pedestrians and black and brown people are not.

D.C. parking, traffic tickets snowball into financial hardships

Traffic and parking tickets are issued more often in Black neighborhoods than White ones, according to D.C. data analyzed by The Washington Post. Advocates for changing the District’s fees and fines system say the disparities criminalize poverty.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2021/08/06/dc-traffic-parking-tickets-black-neighborhoods/

Let's see, who is more likely to be able to afford to own and drive a car? Affluent people, or poor people?

DP. Cheap cars are cheap. Everyone can afford a car.

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Anonymous wrote:I just ignore the signs. At some point the city council and DDOT became like parents who nag/criticize their children over every single thing they do. At some point, the child just tunes them out and drivers will do the same.

DDOT needs to learn that if its rules seem arbitrary or pointless to drivers, they will just ignore them. That includes unnecessary stop signs and traffic lights and unreasonably low speed limits and banning right turns for no good reason. If drivers are breaking traffic laws, maybe DDOT should look in the mirror.

You're making a good argument for suspending or revoking a lot of people's drivers licenses. If drivers can't drive safely and lawfully, they shouldn't have a driver's license.

Drivers are mostly black, brown and not rich. Are those the people you think our government likes to crack down upon?

Oh. You must one of those annoying DC Justice Lab folks who went to all the DC city council meetings and would scream at anyone who wanted to voice support against allowing anyone with thousands of dollars in speeding tickets to renew their DC drivers license.

Nice work. How do you feel about the three uber passengers and the driver who were killed on Rock Creek Parkway by the driver with $12k in speeding tickets?

Must be interesting being in your head and attempting to perform that odd benefit cost analysis of having to weigh public safety with the economics of ward 7 and 8 residents.

It’s clear you didn’t choose public safety. And all the other DC residents get to suffer as dangerous drivers can speed around and hit people with impunity.

But then again you’re probably a promulgator of progressive criminal justice and that equation works for you.

DP. I'm guessing they're either a sock puppet or a troll, actually.

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Anonymous wrote:I just ignore the signs. At some point the city council and DDOT became like parents who nag/criticize their children over every single thing they do. At some point, the child just tunes them out and drivers will do the same.

DDOT needs to learn that if its rules seem arbitrary or pointless to drivers, they will just ignore them. That includes unnecessary stop signs and traffic lights and unreasonably low speed limits and banning right turns for no good reason. If drivers are breaking traffic laws, maybe DDOT should look in the mirror.

You're making a good argument for suspending or revoking a lot of people's drivers licenses. If drivers can't drive safely and lawfully, they shouldn't have a driver's license.

Drivers are mostly black, brown and not rich. Are those the people you think our government likes to crack down upon?

Oh. You must one of those annoying DC Justice Lab folks who went to all the DC city council meetings and would scream at anyone who wanted to voice support against allowing anyone with thousands of dollars in speeding tickets to renew their DC drivers license.

Nice work. How do you feel about the three uber passengers and the driver who were killed on Rock Creek Parkway by the driver with $12k in speeding tickets?

Must be interesting being in your head and attempting to perform that odd benefit cost analysis of having to weigh public safety with the economics of ward 7 and 8 residents.

It’s clear you didn’t choose public safety. And all the other DC residents get to suffer as dangerous drivers can speed around and hit people with impunity.

But then again you’re probably a promulgator of progressive criminal justice and that equation works for you.