Anonymous
Post 12/03/2024 14:10     Subject: DC United Path2Pro

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Anonymous wrote:DCU’s P2P Program: The Illusion of Opportunity ?????

The DCU P2P program is primarily a marketing and ticket sales initiative, mutually agreed upon by the clubs involved. While it’s presented as a legitimate opportunity, the reality is far different. Having a relationship with DCU provides little to no tangible benefits for player development. The clubs that genuinely produce talent understand that DCU is often not the best option. However, families are still drawn to it, making it more about packaging than substance. The DCU academy’s scouting department, unfortunately, lacks competence and direction, highlighting the program’s underlying issues.

Many of the clubs involved in the P2P program openly acknowledge these shortcomings. They recognize that the initiative is more about optics than actual player development, and they often voice their concerns about the lack of meaningful benefits for players and clubs alike.

Even a DCU academy scout has admitted they have no say in determining which clubs become part of the P2P program, as these decisions are entirely managed by the business side of operations.


All the MLS Club Academies have the same P2P program.
Pretty much a standard carbon copy


https://www.nycfc.com/youth/affiliates

https://www.philadelphiaunion.com/club/youth-soccer-partners

https://www.newyorkredbulls.com/youth/academy/affiliate/


In theory, you’re absolutely right that the P2P program model for most MLS club academies follows a standard structure. However, clubs like DC United fail to provide real value to their affiliates beyond the occasional “ID sessions” and tickets to subpar games. Contrast this with programs like Union, NYCFC, and Red Bull, which offer significant benefits to their partners, such as access to advanced coaching resources, developmental support, and structured opportunities for players to grow beyond just the pathway-to-pro dream.

The issue in the DMV is the lack of a real, organized legislature pathway to pro. The infrastructure isn’t there, and the investment isn’t focused on actually helping players succeed. Without meaningful benefits or systems in place like those provided by Union or Red Bull, the dream of a pathway to pro in this area feels more like marketing hype than a legitimate opportunity.


Your opinion is noted for the record


All you need to know is that no player in the history of the P2P program at DCU, which was introduced 6 years ago, has ever become a pro at DCU. If you want to know how much of a marketing gimmick it is, there you go.


How old is MLS Next?

Which academies have sent affiliate p2p players to Professional ranks?


2020

Just off top of my head and in our own region, both Aaronson brothers, mcglynn, both Sullivan brothers at Union. Carrizo at nycfc. All in last six years.



There are more...


Paxten Aaronson was 12 years old at Philly

Which p2p club did he come from?


their dad OWNS Real New Jersey where they both started. Feeder for union.


Just read https://www.edpsoccer.com/post/real-jersey-fc-developing-and-preparing-players-for-the-next-level
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2024 14:07     Subject: DC United Path2Pro

Anonymous wrote:Cavan Sullivan joined Philly at age 11 in 2020 when MLS Next began


And? What does MLS next have to do with anything? P2P stated before MLS next.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2024 14:05     Subject: DC United Path2Pro

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:DCU’s P2P Program: The Illusion of Opportunity ?????

The DCU P2P program is primarily a marketing and ticket sales initiative, mutually agreed upon by the clubs involved. While it’s presented as a legitimate opportunity, the reality is far different. Having a relationship with DCU provides little to no tangible benefits for player development. The clubs that genuinely produce talent understand that DCU is often not the best option. However, families are still drawn to it, making it more about packaging than substance. The DCU academy’s scouting department, unfortunately, lacks competence and direction, highlighting the program’s underlying issues.

Many of the clubs involved in the P2P program openly acknowledge these shortcomings. They recognize that the initiative is more about optics than actual player development, and they often voice their concerns about the lack of meaningful benefits for players and clubs alike.

Even a DCU academy scout has admitted they have no say in determining which clubs become part of the P2P program, as these decisions are entirely managed by the business side of operations.


All the MLS Club Academies have the same P2P program.
Pretty much a standard carbon copy


https://www.nycfc.com/youth/affiliates

https://www.philadelphiaunion.com/club/youth-soccer-partners

https://www.newyorkredbulls.com/youth/academy/affiliate/


In theory, you’re absolutely right that the P2P program model for most MLS club academies follows a standard structure. However, clubs like DC United fail to provide real value to their affiliates beyond the occasional “ID sessions” and tickets to subpar games. Contrast this with programs like Union, NYCFC, and Red Bull, which offer significant benefits to their partners, such as access to advanced coaching resources, developmental support, and structured opportunities for players to grow beyond just the pathway-to-pro dream.

The issue in the DMV is the lack of a real, organized legislature pathway to pro. The infrastructure isn’t there, and the investment isn’t focused on actually helping players succeed. Without meaningful benefits or systems in place like those provided by Union or Red Bull, the dream of a pathway to pro in this area feels more like marketing hype than a legitimate opportunity.


Your opinion is noted for the record


All you need to know is that no player in the history of the P2P program at DCU, which was introduced 6 years ago, has ever become a pro at DCU. If you want to know how much of a marketing gimmick it is, there you go.


How old is MLS Next?

Which academies have sent affiliate p2p players to Professional ranks?


2020

Just off top of my head and in our own region, both Aaronson brothers, mcglynn, both Sullivan brothers at Union. Carrizo at nycfc. All in last six years.



There are more...


Paxten Aaronson was 12 years old at Philly

Which p2p club did he come from?


their dad OWNS Real New Jersey where they both started. Feeder for union.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2024 13:56     Subject: DC United Path2Pro

Cavan Sullivan joined Philly at age 11 in 2020 when MLS Next began
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2024 13:47     Subject: DC United Path2Pro

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DCU’s P2P Program: The Illusion of Opportunity ?????

The DCU P2P program is primarily a marketing and ticket sales initiative, mutually agreed upon by the clubs involved. While it’s presented as a legitimate opportunity, the reality is far different. Having a relationship with DCU provides little to no tangible benefits for player development. The clubs that genuinely produce talent understand that DCU is often not the best option. However, families are still drawn to it, making it more about packaging than substance. The DCU academy’s scouting department, unfortunately, lacks competence and direction, highlighting the program’s underlying issues.

Many of the clubs involved in the P2P program openly acknowledge these shortcomings. They recognize that the initiative is more about optics than actual player development, and they often voice their concerns about the lack of meaningful benefits for players and clubs alike.

Even a DCU academy scout has admitted they have no say in determining which clubs become part of the P2P program, as these decisions are entirely managed by the business side of operations.


All the MLS Club Academies have the same P2P program.
Pretty much a standard carbon copy


https://www.nycfc.com/youth/affiliates

https://www.philadelphiaunion.com/club/youth-soccer-partners

https://www.newyorkredbulls.com/youth/academy/affiliate/


In theory, you’re absolutely right that the P2P program model for most MLS club academies follows a standard structure. However, clubs like DC United fail to provide real value to their affiliates beyond the occasional “ID sessions” and tickets to subpar games. Contrast this with programs like Union, NYCFC, and Red Bull, which offer significant benefits to their partners, such as access to advanced coaching resources, developmental support, and structured opportunities for players to grow beyond just the pathway-to-pro dream.

The issue in the DMV is the lack of a real, organized legislature pathway to pro. The infrastructure isn’t there, and the investment isn’t focused on actually helping players succeed. Without meaningful benefits or systems in place like those provided by Union or Red Bull, the dream of a pathway to pro in this area feels more like marketing hype than a legitimate opportunity.


Your opinion is noted for the record


All you need to know is that no player in the history of the P2P program at DCU, which was introduced 6 years ago, has ever become a pro at DCU. If you want to know how much of a marketing gimmick it is, there you go.


How old is MLS Next?

Which academies have sent affiliate p2p players to Professional ranks?


2020

Just off top of my head and in our own region, both Aaronson brothers, mcglynn, both Sullivan brothers at Union. Carrizo at nycfc. All in last six years.



There are more...


Paxten Aaronson was 12 years old at Philly

Which p2p club did he come from?
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2024 13:44     Subject: DC United Path2Pro

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DCU’s P2P Program: The Illusion of Opportunity ?????

The DCU P2P program is primarily a marketing and ticket sales initiative, mutually agreed upon by the clubs involved. While it’s presented as a legitimate opportunity, the reality is far different. Having a relationship with DCU provides little to no tangible benefits for player development. The clubs that genuinely produce talent understand that DCU is often not the best option. However, families are still drawn to it, making it more about packaging than substance. The DCU academy’s scouting department, unfortunately, lacks competence and direction, highlighting the program’s underlying issues.

Many of the clubs involved in the P2P program openly acknowledge these shortcomings. They recognize that the initiative is more about optics than actual player development, and they often voice their concerns about the lack of meaningful benefits for players and clubs alike.

Even a DCU academy scout has admitted they have no say in determining which clubs become part of the P2P program, as these decisions are entirely managed by the business side of operations.


All the MLS Club Academies have the same P2P program.
Pretty much a standard carbon copy


https://www.nycfc.com/youth/affiliates

https://www.philadelphiaunion.com/club/youth-soccer-partners

https://www.newyorkredbulls.com/youth/academy/affiliate/


In theory, you’re absolutely right that the P2P program model for most MLS club academies follows a standard structure. However, clubs like DC United fail to provide real value to their affiliates beyond the occasional “ID sessions” and tickets to subpar games. Contrast this with programs like Union, NYCFC, and Red Bull, which offer significant benefits to their partners, such as access to advanced coaching resources, developmental support, and structured opportunities for players to grow beyond just the pathway-to-pro dream.

The issue in the DMV is the lack of a real, organized legislature pathway to pro. The infrastructure isn’t there, and the investment isn’t focused on actually helping players succeed. Without meaningful benefits or systems in place like those provided by Union or Red Bull, the dream of a pathway to pro in this area feels more like marketing hype than a legitimate opportunity.


Your opinion is noted for the record


All you need to know is that no player in the history of the P2P program at DCU, which was introduced 6 years ago, has ever become a pro at DCU. If you want to know how much of a marketing gimmick it is, there you go.


How old is MLS Next?

Which academies have sent affiliate p2p players to Professional ranks?


2020

Just off top of my head and in our own region, both Aaronson brothers, mcglynn, both Sullivan brothers at Union. Carrizo at nycfc. All in last six years.



There are more...


Brendan Aaronson joined Philly Union academy at 14 years old
Which P2P affiliate did he come?
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2024 13:38     Subject: DC United Path2Pro

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Someone asked a long time ago “where are the 2010 players going?”

Great question. It’s almost like they just stop looking. It’s like they recruit and pick kids when they are in 7th or 8th grade and then are so convinced that they have the best players that no one else can get in. It’s almost like a general manager who drafts someone #1 overall and then is unwilling to bench them because they want so badly for their pick to be validated.

Meanwhile you have other MLS and ECNL clubs competing and sometimes beating the MLS academies who claim “development” whenever they don’t win a game.





Wouldn't the existence of new U15's and U16's at DCU this season make your above statement all BS?


No. It wouldn't.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2024 13:36     Subject: DC United Path2Pro

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DCU’s P2P Program: The Illusion of Opportunity ?????

The DCU P2P program is primarily a marketing and ticket sales initiative, mutually agreed upon by the clubs involved. While it’s presented as a legitimate opportunity, the reality is far different. Having a relationship with DCU provides little to no tangible benefits for player development. The clubs that genuinely produce talent understand that DCU is often not the best option. However, families are still drawn to it, making it more about packaging than substance. The DCU academy’s scouting department, unfortunately, lacks competence and direction, highlighting the program’s underlying issues.

Many of the clubs involved in the P2P program openly acknowledge these shortcomings. They recognize that the initiative is more about optics than actual player development, and they often voice their concerns about the lack of meaningful benefits for players and clubs alike.

Even a DCU academy scout has admitted they have no say in determining which clubs become part of the P2P program, as these decisions are entirely managed by the business side of operations.


All the MLS Club Academies have the same P2P program.
Pretty much a standard carbon copy


https://www.nycfc.com/youth/affiliates

https://www.philadelphiaunion.com/club/youth-soccer-partners

https://www.newyorkredbulls.com/youth/academy/affiliate/


In theory, you’re absolutely right that the P2P program model for most MLS club academies follows a standard structure. However, clubs like DC United fail to provide real value to their affiliates beyond the occasional “ID sessions” and tickets to subpar games. Contrast this with programs like Union, NYCFC, and Red Bull, which offer significant benefits to their partners, such as access to advanced coaching resources, developmental support, and structured opportunities for players to grow beyond just the pathway-to-pro dream.

The issue in the DMV is the lack of a real, organized legislature pathway to pro. The infrastructure isn’t there, and the investment isn’t focused on actually helping players succeed. Without meaningful benefits or systems in place like those provided by Union or Red Bull, the dream of a pathway to pro in this area feels more like marketing hype than a legitimate opportunity.


Your opinion is noted for the record


All you need to know is that no player in the history of the P2P program at DCU, which was introduced 6 years ago, has ever become a pro at DCU. If you want to know how much of a marketing gimmick it is, there you go.


How old is MLS Next?

Which academies have sent affiliate p2p players to Professional ranks?


2020

Just off top of my head and in our own region, both Aaronson brothers, mcglynn, both Sullivan brothers at Union. Carrizo at nycfc. All in last six years.



There are more...
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2024 13:35     Subject: DC United Path2Pro

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DCU’s P2P Program: The Illusion of Opportunity ?????

The DCU P2P program is primarily a marketing and ticket sales initiative, mutually agreed upon by the clubs involved. While it’s presented as a legitimate opportunity, the reality is far different. Having a relationship with DCU provides little to no tangible benefits for player development. The clubs that genuinely produce talent understand that DCU is often not the best option. However, families are still drawn to it, making it more about packaging than substance. The DCU academy’s scouting department, unfortunately, lacks competence and direction, highlighting the program’s underlying issues.

Many of the clubs involved in the P2P program openly acknowledge these shortcomings. They recognize that the initiative is more about optics than actual player development, and they often voice their concerns about the lack of meaningful benefits for players and clubs alike.

Even a DCU academy scout has admitted they have no say in determining which clubs become part of the P2P program, as these decisions are entirely managed by the business side of operations.


All the MLS Club Academies have the same P2P program.
Pretty much a standard carbon copy


https://www.nycfc.com/youth/affiliates

https://www.philadelphiaunion.com/club/youth-soccer-partners

https://www.newyorkredbulls.com/youth/academy/affiliate/


In theory, you’re absolutely right that the P2P program model for most MLS club academies follows a standard structure. However, clubs like DC United fail to provide real value to their affiliates beyond the occasional “ID sessions” and tickets to subpar games. Contrast this with programs like Union, NYCFC, and Red Bull, which offer significant benefits to their partners, such as access to advanced coaching resources, developmental support, and structured opportunities for players to grow beyond just the pathway-to-pro dream.

The issue in the DMV is the lack of a real, organized legislature pathway to pro. The infrastructure isn’t there, and the investment isn’t focused on actually helping players succeed. Without meaningful benefits or systems in place like those provided by Union or Red Bull, the dream of a pathway to pro in this area feels more like marketing hype than a legitimate opportunity.


Your opinion is noted for the record


All you need to know is that no player in the history of the P2P program at DCU, which was introduced 6 years ago, has ever become a pro at DCU. If you want to know how much of a marketing gimmick it is, there you go.


How old is MLS Next?

Which academies have sent affiliate p2p players to Professional ranks?


2020

Just off top of my head and in our own region, both Aaronson brothers, mcglynn, both Sullivan brothers at Union. Carrizo at nycfc. All in last six years.

Anonymous
Post 12/03/2024 13:23     Subject: DC United Path2Pro

Anonymous wrote:Someone asked a long time ago “where are the 2010 players going?”

Great question. It’s almost like they just stop looking. It’s like they recruit and pick kids when they are in 7th or 8th grade and then are so convinced that they have the best players that no one else can get in. It’s almost like a general manager who drafts someone #1 overall and then is unwilling to bench them because they want so badly for their pick to be validated.

Meanwhile you have other MLS and ECNL clubs competing and sometimes beating the MLS academies who claim “development” whenever they don’t win a game.





Wouldn't the existence of new U15's and U16's at DCU this season make your above statement all BS?
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2024 13:14     Subject: DC United Path2Pro

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DCU’s P2P Program: The Illusion of Opportunity ?????

The DCU P2P program is primarily a marketing and ticket sales initiative, mutually agreed upon by the clubs involved. While it’s presented as a legitimate opportunity, the reality is far different. Having a relationship with DCU provides little to no tangible benefits for player development. The clubs that genuinely produce talent understand that DCU is often not the best option. However, families are still drawn to it, making it more about packaging than substance. The DCU academy’s scouting department, unfortunately, lacks competence and direction, highlighting the program’s underlying issues.

Many of the clubs involved in the P2P program openly acknowledge these shortcomings. They recognize that the initiative is more about optics than actual player development, and they often voice their concerns about the lack of meaningful benefits for players and clubs alike.

Even a DCU academy scout has admitted they have no say in determining which clubs become part of the P2P program, as these decisions are entirely managed by the business side of operations.


All the MLS Club Academies have the same P2P program.
Pretty much a standard carbon copy


https://www.nycfc.com/youth/affiliates

https://www.philadelphiaunion.com/club/youth-soccer-partners

https://www.newyorkredbulls.com/youth/academy/affiliate/


In theory, you’re absolutely right that the P2P program model for most MLS club academies follows a standard structure. However, clubs like DC United fail to provide real value to their affiliates beyond the occasional “ID sessions” and tickets to subpar games. Contrast this with programs like Union, NYCFC, and Red Bull, which offer significant benefits to their partners, such as access to advanced coaching resources, developmental support, and structured opportunities for players to grow beyond just the pathway-to-pro dream.

The issue in the DMV is the lack of a real, organized legislature pathway to pro. The infrastructure isn’t there, and the investment isn’t focused on actually helping players succeed. Without meaningful benefits or systems in place like those provided by Union or Red Bull, the dream of a pathway to pro in this area feels more like marketing hype than a legitimate opportunity.


Your opinion is noted for the record


All you need to know is that no player in the history of the P2P program at DCU, which was introduced 6 years ago, has ever become a pro at DCU. If you want to know how much of a marketing gimmick it is, there you go.


How old is MLS Next?

Which academies have sent affiliate p2p players to Professional ranks?
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2024 13:08     Subject: DC United Path2Pro

It is a good concept in theory. But like most things at DCU, in practice, it leaves a lot to be desired.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2024 13:07     Subject: DC United Path2Pro

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DCU’s P2P Program: The Illusion of Opportunity ?????

The DCU P2P program is primarily a marketing and ticket sales initiative, mutually agreed upon by the clubs involved. While it’s presented as a legitimate opportunity, the reality is far different. Having a relationship with DCU provides little to no tangible benefits for player development. The clubs that genuinely produce talent understand that DCU is often not the best option. However, families are still drawn to it, making it more about packaging than substance. The DCU academy’s scouting department, unfortunately, lacks competence and direction, highlighting the program’s underlying issues.

Many of the clubs involved in the P2P program openly acknowledge these shortcomings. They recognize that the initiative is more about optics than actual player development, and they often voice their concerns about the lack of meaningful benefits for players and clubs alike.

Even a DCU academy scout has admitted they have no say in determining which clubs become part of the P2P program, as these decisions are entirely managed by the business side of operations.


All the MLS Club Academies have the same P2P program.
Pretty much a standard carbon copy


https://www.nycfc.com/youth/affiliates

https://www.philadelphiaunion.com/club/youth-soccer-partners

https://www.newyorkredbulls.com/youth/academy/affiliate/


In theory, you’re absolutely right that the P2P program model for most MLS club academies follows a standard structure. However, clubs like DC United fail to provide real value to their affiliates beyond the occasional “ID sessions” and tickets to subpar games. Contrast this with programs like Union, NYCFC, and Red Bull, which offer significant benefits to their partners, such as access to advanced coaching resources, developmental support, and structured opportunities for players to grow beyond just the pathway-to-pro dream.

The issue in the DMV is the lack of a real, organized legislature pathway to pro. The infrastructure isn’t there, and the investment isn’t focused on actually helping players succeed. Without meaningful benefits or systems in place like those provided by Union or Red Bull, the dream of a pathway to pro in this area feels more like marketing hype than a legitimate opportunity.


Your opinion is noted for the record


All you need to know is that no player in the history of the P2P program at DCU, which was introduced 6 years ago, has ever become a pro at DCU. If you want to know how much of a marketing gimmick it is, there you go.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2024 13:01     Subject: DC United Path2Pro

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DCU’s P2P Program: The Illusion of Opportunity ?????

The DCU P2P program is primarily a marketing and ticket sales initiative, mutually agreed upon by the clubs involved. While it’s presented as a legitimate opportunity, the reality is far different. Having a relationship with DCU provides little to no tangible benefits for player development. The clubs that genuinely produce talent understand that DCU is often not the best option. However, families are still drawn to it, making it more about packaging than substance. The DCU academy’s scouting department, unfortunately, lacks competence and direction, highlighting the program’s underlying issues.

Many of the clubs involved in the P2P program openly acknowledge these shortcomings. They recognize that the initiative is more about optics than actual player development, and they often voice their concerns about the lack of meaningful benefits for players and clubs alike.

Even a DCU academy scout has admitted they have no say in determining which clubs become part of the P2P program, as these decisions are entirely managed by the business side of operations.


All the MLS Club Academies have the same P2P program.
Pretty much a standard carbon copy


https://www.nycfc.com/youth/affiliates

https://www.philadelphiaunion.com/club/youth-soccer-partners

https://www.newyorkredbulls.com/youth/academy/affiliate/


In theory, you’re absolutely right that the P2P program model for most MLS club academies follows a standard structure. However, clubs like DC United fail to provide real value to their affiliates beyond the occasional “ID sessions” and tickets to subpar games. Contrast this with programs like Union, NYCFC, and Red Bull, which offer significant benefits to their partners, such as access to advanced coaching resources, developmental support, and structured opportunities for players to grow beyond just the pathway-to-pro dream.

The issue in the DMV is the lack of a real, organized legislature pathway to pro. The infrastructure isn’t there, and the investment isn’t focused on actually helping players succeed. Without meaningful benefits or systems in place like those provided by Union or Red Bull, the dream of a pathway to pro in this area feels more like marketing hype than a legitimate opportunity.


This is spot on
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2024 12:54     Subject: DC United Path2Pro

Anonymous wrote:“Real curiosity.
What are the names of kids from the DMV that were overlooked by DCU that are now USYNT standouts?”

You’ve missed the point . . . There aren’t any. That’s why P2P is a gimmick.


Well, technically, P2Pathway is a highway.

Navigating it to your destination is up to you.
(1% success rate)