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Anonymous wrote:For some reason I went down a rabbit hole of the r/Conservative reddit group. It was pretty eye opening and terrifying. Regardless, if most conservatives feel the way those people do why don't we just get rid of the Federal government altogether and let people figure stuff out for themselves? I swear 50% of the posts were about how we should fire 80% of the federal workforce and how lazy and inept the federal workers were.

So the idea is that we should put everything back to the states, remove the federal government and dissolve the "United States" is that what conservatives would prefer? Because without the Federal government what is the point of being a united states of America? Just become individual states that govern themselves.

Musk fired 80% of X staff. It's now setting records for viewership and usage and better than ever. Same could apply to the federal government.

Tell you what. Let's apply that model to YOUR workplace (assuming you're not self-employed). Pretend 80 percent of your co-workers are fired and tell us how that will work. And while you're working on that hypothetical, figure out what would happen if YOU were fired. What makes YOU so essential to your employer?

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Anonymous wrote:For some reason I went down a rabbit hole of the r/Conservative reddit group. It was pretty eye opening and terrifying. Regardless, if most conservatives feel the way those people do why don't we just get rid of the Federal government altogether and let people figure stuff out for themselves? I swear 50% of the posts were about how we should fire 80% of the federal workforce and how lazy and inept the federal workers were.

So the idea is that we should put everything back to the states, remove the federal government and dissolve the "United States" is that what conservatives would prefer? Because without the Federal government what is the point of being a united states of America? Just become individual states that govern themselves.

Conservatives wouldn’t be so insistent on power going back to states if Democrat presidents would do the things the federal gov is SUPPOSED to do—like protesting the border, maintaining a solid military, or maintaining an impartial DOJ. But since those basic functions seem beyond your ability, then fine, get the hell out of the way and let the states do it.

Texas trying to enforce the border laws because the feds wouldn’t, is a microcosm of this whole movement.

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Anonymous wrote:For some reason I went down a rabbit hole of the r/Conservative reddit group. It was pretty eye opening and terrifying. Regardless, if most conservatives feel the way those people do why don't we just get rid of the Federal government altogether and let people figure stuff out for themselves? I swear 50% of the posts were about how we should fire 80% of the federal workforce and how lazy and inept the federal workers were.

So the idea is that we should put everything back to the states, remove the federal government and dissolve the "United States" is that what conservatives would prefer? Because without the Federal government what is the point of being a united states of America? Just become individual states that govern themselves.

Musk fired 80% of X staff. It's now setting records for viewership and usage and better than ever. Same could apply to the federal government.

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Anonymous wrote:For some reason I went down a rabbit hole of the r/Conservative reddit group. It was pretty eye opening and terrifying. Regardless, if most conservatives feel the way those people do why don't we just get rid of the Federal government altogether and let people figure stuff out for themselves? I swear 50% of the posts were about how we should fire 80% of the federal workforce and how lazy and inept the federal workers were.

So the idea is that we should put everything back to the states, remove the federal government and dissolve the "United States" is that what conservatives would prefer? Because without the Federal government what is the point of being a united states of America? Just become individual states that govern themselves.

Musk fired 80% of X staff. It's now setting records for viewership and usage and better than ever. Same could apply to the federal government.

Tell you what. Let's apply that model to YOUR workplace (assuming you're not self-employed). Pretend 80 percent of your co-workers are fired and tell us how that will work. And while you're working on that hypothetical, figure out what would happen if YOU were fired. What makes YOU so essential to your employer?

I don't work for the government, so I'm far more likely to be engaged in a productive activity. As people keep saying, the shutdowns show how useless most of the government is. I know it hurts the feelings of federal workers to be told their work is meaningless, but the truth hurts sometimes.

The truth is we got the low-hanging fruit years ago with cleaner air and water. We simply need to go back to the 1970s standards and stop writing new ones that choke economic growth.

We never had a true shutdown. People were still allowed to fly during the shutdown, because air traffic controllers and TSA were working without being paid. True shutdowns would halt all air flights, for starters. There weren’t mass illnesses from poisoned food because inspections were still happening as govt workers were still working without being paid. If you want a true shutdown, don’t be surprised when hundreds and thousands of people and businesses get pissed off when they cannot fly and their travel plans are ruined.

Great, abolish the TSA and let the airlines handle it. Would be fine if they did the same for air traffic controllers, who have had increased security incidents due to DEI hiring. Don't believe me, just listen to the audio of any near miss.

Yeah, can’t wait until airlines hire the cheapest air traffic controllers or security screeners possible or work them to the bone with a Skeleton crew and are short staffed. They’ll crash flights. Or let terrorists slip through. This is exactly the same garbage McKinsey has pushed for years and has all sorts of deaths at places like steel factories to even Disney world.

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Anonymous wrote:Reddit is a giant DCUM. Notice how during sequestration, nobody noticed the government was shut down. Other than the uptick at the bar at Capitol Grille and other hangouts. Was much harder to get tee times too. Fed workers for 6 week paid vacation. Last thought: The entire purpose of the Federal government was to create a common defense of the US. Nothing else. The Fed just grew into a self-licking ice cream cone. Outside of the military, you could probably cut 50%+ of the Federal work force. Try reading the Constitution.

We just need DoD, DoJ, Treasury, State and IRS. Get rid of everything else.

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Anonymous wrote:Reddit is a giant DCUM. Notice how during sequestration, nobody noticed the government was shut down. Other than the uptick at the bar at Capitol Grille and other hangouts. Was much harder to get tee times too. Fed workers for 6 week paid vacation. Last thought: The entire purpose of the Federal government was to create a common defense of the US. Nothing else. The Fed just grew into a self-licking ice cream cone. Outside of the military, you could probably cut 50%+ of the Federal work force. Try reading the Constitution.

Op - ok so what happens if we just have a department of defense and nothing else?

Serious answer? States do their own thing. Some states have tons of gov services, others become libertarian paradises.

Basically look at 19th century US government levels.

Is that better? Depends on where you might live i guess.

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Anonymous wrote:Reddit is a giant DCUM. Notice how during sequestration, nobody noticed the government was shut down. Other than the uptick at the bar at Capitol Grille and other hangouts. Was much harder to get tee times too. Fed workers for 6 week paid vacation. Last thought: The entire purpose of the Federal government was to create a common defense of the US. Nothing else. The Fed just grew into a self-licking ice cream cone. Outside of the military, you could probably cut 50%+ of the Federal work force. Try reading the Constitution.

Op - ok so what happens if we just have a department of defense and nothing else?

Anonymous wrote:For some reason I went down a rabbit hole of the r/Conservative reddit group. It was pretty eye opening and terrifying. Regardless, if most conservatives feel the way those people do why don't we just get rid of the Federal government altogether and let people figure stuff out for themselves? I swear 50% of the posts were about how we should fire 80% of the federal workforce and how lazy and inept the federal workers were.

So the idea is that we should put everything back to the states, remove the federal government and dissolve the "United States" is that what conservatives would prefer? Because without the Federal government what is the point of being a united states of America? Just become individual states that govern themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:For some reason I went down a rabbit hole of the r/Conservative reddit group. It was pretty eye opening and terrifying. Regardless, if most conservatives feel the way those people do why don't we just get rid of the Federal government altogether and let people figure stuff out for themselves? I swear 50% of the posts were about how we should fire 80% of the federal workforce and how lazy and inept the federal workers were.

So the idea is that we should put everything back to the states, remove the federal government and dissolve the "United States" is that what conservatives would prefer? Because without the Federal government what is the point of being a united states of America? Just become individual states that govern themselves.

Musk fired 80% of X staff. It's now setting records for viewership and usage and better than ever. Same could apply to the federal government.

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Anonymous wrote:For some reason I went down a rabbit hole of the r/Conservative reddit group. It was pretty eye opening and terrifying. Regardless, if most conservatives feel the way those people do why don't we just get rid of the Federal government altogether and let people figure stuff out for themselves? I swear 50% of the posts were about how we should fire 80% of the federal workforce and how lazy and inept the federal workers were.

So the idea is that we should put everything back to the states, remove the federal government and dissolve the "United States" is that what conservatives would prefer? Because without the Federal government what is the point of being a united states of America? Just become individual states that govern themselves.

Except, in general, state/local employees are more lazy and more inept.

Okay then just get rid of federal/state/local government and let people do what they want. You want roads and water and energy - get it yourself. Or make a commune with people of like mind and figure it out. What do people think government does? I mean I know conservatives think the government does nothing. So then deal with your life without it.

States will never have their own rights because it makes absolutely zero sense. What, are you going to take a driving exam in 50 different states in case all of the laws are different? Think about all of the consumer products. What, is a company going to make 50 different version of it to meet 50 different states' requirements? That will never happen.

There is a limit to states' rights. Most people aren't that extreme and realize we need national policies set by the federal govt to have uniform standards for many things.