Anonymous wrote:Engineering is here to stay. AI will transform engineering roles but will not eliminate.

Same for CS. It won't be the same type of programming, but there's always new tech coming out, and CS people are needed to create and maintain.

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Anonymous wrote:This is already known but education is a bad one. Not even incorporating the pay and work conditions, the need for a degree in education to be a teacher is declining. A teaching license is not required in most charters and many school districts with mass shortages are contracting with companies to bring teachers from overseas or they have low cost programs for career switchers or those without education related degrees. A Special or Elementary Education degree will have them boxed in, and from experience it is quite difficult to get another job if they don’t like it.

I have a different take on this. Working conditions seem to be the bigger issue than pay, so I anticipate conditions will improve over the next few years as districts start to tackle the teacher shortage.

Regarding teachers from overseas: most won’t stay because of American students’ behaviors. (I’ve worked with many.) This isn’t a permanent solution.

As for career changers, I’m all for those programs. I did one myself. Unfortunately, they also don’t have a high retention rate because these programs can’t adequately prepare you for your first year. I’m the only one remaining from my cohort.

So I anticipate the opposite. A degree in education right now is 100% a guaranteed job, and you can have your pick of schools.

As a career changer in this field, I disagree with you.

Working conditions keep getting worse and worse and the pay isn't keeping up with inflation. People want all sorts of services for their kids but no one is willing to pay extra in taxes to fund the services, so the budget balances itself on the back of teachers.

Even if the teachers from overseas don't stay, there is an endless supply of desperate people from other countries who are willing to deal with the misery for a short stint because they have families to support back home or are walled in by the debt they incurred to come here. They can easily be replaced. Our district proudly announced this year that they are hiring from this source.

Fertility rates are going down so enrollment is going to hold steady at best, and if deportations start it's going to go down quite a bit.

As the proportion of seniors increases in the population, they will divert resources towards them (because they have lots of time on their hands to worry about politics and they vote) and away from kids (who can't vote).

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Anonymous wrote:Accounting and data analytics should be solid. Accounting majors are very hard to come by to fill the need. However - ai will make an impact do you better have strong communication, writing and people skills. The excel sheet accountants who can’t work in teams and provide excellent customer service will be the ones left behind.

Not true, grunt grinder accountant here and we will be around until the pretty social stars "want" to do the dirty work, which is never.

CPA here, senior role in private company. Do not go into accounting. They are training people in The Philippines and India to be CPAs. We cannot compete with someone making $5/hour. Even if the work sucks and has to be redone, companies don't care. Plus AI will rip accounting apart.

My son is in college deciding between accounting and finance. I’m worried because I hear entry level jobs are difficult to find, and accounting may not be as reliable as it once was in the past.

Engineering is here to stay. AI will transform engineering roles but will not eliminate.

I can't believe people are pushing philosophy majors here...last I heard they made less than English majors. Sure, you might get lucky and have your resume read by the philosophy major hiring manager but it's much better to have a viable major with philosophy as a minor.

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Anonymous wrote:Nursing. Go on to be an NP.

Nurse anesthetist.

ding, ding, ding, and yes, for the Grand Prize, this.

Nurse anesthetist here, and I agree! I went into nursing as a second career and never imagined I’d end up here, but I’m so happy I did. I have an undergraduate degree in English; went back a few years later for my BSN (did an accelerated program for students who already had a bachelor’s degree in another discipline), worked for 4 years in the ICU, then returned to school for my master’s degree in anesthesia. It’s a fun job and I love what I do. In general, nursing is a great field — so many options to work in so many different settings. I considered public health nursing for a while, and also nurse-midwifery. There’s just so much you can do with a nursing degree!

Law.

Healthcare

Real estate

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Anonymous wrote:Accounting and data analytics should be solid. Accounting majors are very hard to come by to fill the need. However - ai will make an impact do you better have strong communication, writing and people skills. The excel sheet accountants who can’t work in teams and provide excellent customer service will be the ones left behind.

Not true, grunt grinder accountant here and we will be around until the pretty social stars "want" to do the dirty work, which is never.

CPA here, senior role in private company. Do not go into accounting. They are training people in The Philippines and India to be CPAs. We cannot compete with someone making $5/hour. Even if the work sucks and has to be redone, companies don't care. Plus AI will rip accounting apart.

Anonymous wrote:CS wont exist in 10 years

At that point Skynet will take over and destroy the earth.

I feel like climate science is the next frontier. Not sure what degree that is in but that is where I would steer my kids

I was a phil/eng major and it fared me very well. But I am worried about the impact AI is going to have on writing professions. Although I think AI writing is bloated and ridiculous sounding people really love having it write their emails for them.

CS wont exist in 10 years

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Anonymous wrote:As a programmer I'm with your DH. I've been actively trying to steer my kid away from computer science and towards a related field that will last.

And I agree that philosophy trains the brain in a way that is really valuable. My undergrad school offered philosophy with concentrations in basically every other major we had. It was really cool and in retrospect I wish I'd done it. My sibling did.

Idk but currently philosophy majors are under employed and don't get paid much.

The ones with a career plan do just fine.

Plans don't always work out, nor are they always a good plan.

Duh. Plans actually do work out when you show hustle and get appropriate internships and ECs. No less or no more than they do for elementary education, CS, nursing, or math

Ass sitting generally means your dreams aren’t realized, for any major. Nobody suggested philosophy + ass sitting is a dream combo, stop with the smug thing

Unless you went to a T20, it'll be hard for philosophy majors to compete with other majors for internships.

Anonymous wrote:Nice words above about philosophy majors, but as a former philosophy major myself, I would only recommend it as a minor or as a double major with something more obviously vocational. I had a helluva time getting my career started. (Apparently it’s not immediately obvious to employers how symbolic logic and mini-treatises on Hegel and Aristotle translate to the workplace.)

My oldest is a philosophy/econ double major with strong second and third language skills. I think she will be much better prepared for the job market.

Don’t disagree. This is where the summer internships and school year clubs come in, in my current experience. A coherent narrative seems important

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Anonymous wrote:As a programmer I'm with your DH. I've been actively trying to steer my kid away from computer science and towards a related field that will last.

And I agree that philosophy trains the brain in a way that is really valuable. My undergrad school offered philosophy with concentrations in basically every other major we had. It was really cool and in retrospect I wish I'd done it. My sibling did.

Idk but currently philosophy majors are under employed and don't get paid much.

The ones with a career plan do just fine.

Plans don't always work out, nor are they always a good plan.

Duh. Plans actually do work out when you show hustle and get appropriate internships and ECs. No less or no more than they do for elementary education, CS, nursing, or math

Ass sitting generally means your dreams aren’t realized, for any major. Nobody suggested philosophy + ass sitting is a dream combo, stop with the smug thing

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Anonymous wrote:Nursing. Go on to be an NP.

+10

Meh. Yes there is guaranteed employment somewhere for an NP, but there is also massive and growing wage deflation

Go this route only if you have a genuine passion for writing prescriptions and orders for xrays. Otherwise, an RN savvy about employers can make the same picking up a extra shift or two each month.