Anonymous
11/08/2024 08:08
Subject: So Many Posts with “My High STAT …”
Anonymous wrote:
In any event, grade inflation is a mixed bag. Kids should have realistic indicators of how much they’ve mastery of the subject they have. But letter grades and forced bell curves are also kinda arbitrary and lead to grade grubbing so aren’t a great system either.
“Letter grades are arbitrary and lead to grade grubbing.” No better evidence than this discussion. People are mad that there’s a demarcation between A and B, and kids who just exceed the line get a benefit. That is a feature of all systems that try to organize this messy world into neat categories. If you’re going to have grades, someone will always have the lowest A or the lowest B in a class.
Anonymous
11/08/2024 08:05
Subject: So Many Posts with “My High STAT …”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:yes, MCPS has the worst grade inflation in the DMV. It's ridiculous. You have to be basically checked out to not do extremely well.
Colleges know but it doesn't correct everything.
It depends. Sure if you take honors (i.e. regular classes) it's pretty easy. Some students though sign-up for more rigorous programs and even take APs to boot.
You only have to get an 89.5 one quarter and a 79.5 the next to get an A. That in an of itself is INSANE grade inflation.
Is this true?? When I was in high school (yes, it was 20 years ago but still!) an 89 was a B and a 79 was a C so how would these average out to an A??
In what world does an 89.5 round down to 89? Or a 79.5 round down to 79? An 89.5 rounds to 90, which in a system without A- grades is an A, 4.0, and a 79.5 rounds to 80, which is a B, 3.0, and when you average 4.0 and 3.0 you get a 3.5, which rounds up to a 4, which is an A.
All this grade calculation is not the real source of grade inflation, either. The source of grade inflation is teachers giving As to “good enough” work, rather than reserving As for excellent work. But we all know why they do it: DCUMs will make their lives miserable if little Larlo doesn’t have straight As on everything all the time. Send your kid to a school where the teachers give more Cs than As, and the dreaded “grade inflation” disappears.
Oh wow - this is wild! We are in the NYC suburbs and 90 is definitely an A and there is no rounding like this in any way. When people here say their kid has high stats, they mean 1500+ SAT/4.5W GPA/5s on all 10 APs. And there are MANY kids with these stats here.
Anonymous
11/08/2024 07:58
Subject: So Many Posts with “My High STAT …”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:yes, MCPS has the worst grade inflation in the DMV. It's ridiculous. You have to be basically checked out to not do extremely well.
Colleges know but it doesn't correct everything.
It depends. Sure if you take honors (i.e. regular classes) it's pretty easy. Some students though sign-up for more rigorous programs and even take APs to boot.
You only have to get an 89.5 one quarter and a 79.5 the next to get an A. That in an of itself is INSANE grade inflation.
Is this true?? When I was in high school (yes, it was 20 years ago but still!) an 89 was a B and a 79 was a C so how would these average out to an A??
In what world does an 89.5 round down to 89? Or a 79.5 round down to 79? An 89.5 rounds to 90, which in a system without A- grades is an A, 4.0, and a 79.5 rounds to 80, which is a B, 3.0, and when you average 4.0 and 3.0 you get a 3.5, which rounds up to a 4, which is an A.
All this grade calculation is not the real source of grade inflation, either. The source of grade inflation is teachers giving As to “good enough” work, rather than reserving As for excellent work. But we all know why they do it: DCUMs will make their lives miserable if little Larlo doesn’t have straight As on everything all the time. Send your kid to a school where the teachers give more Cs than As, and the dreaded “grade inflation” disappears.
What??? In this scenario, those grade would round to an 80 & a 90. Then, the student would have an 85. That is a B.
They use the quarter letter grades to determine the semester grade. Just like you use the semester letter grades to determine overall GPA.
Anonymous
11/08/2024 07:34
Subject: So Many Posts with “My High STAT …”
Anonymous wrote:This board is self-perpetuating. If someone came on posted about where their 2.3 gpa/1050 SAT kid should apply, poster here would be like sharks scenting blood in the water. The answers would be about how their kid is only fit for trade school or community college (as if those are bad options), “are you sure your child is ready for college?” There are 4000+ colleges and a student with those stats can get in to and succeed at and go on to do well from plenty of them, but the poster wouldn’t get that advice here because DCUM folks either scoff at those schools or have never heard of them.
IKR? My low stat kid (by DCUM standards) is doing brilliantly in his college and recently obtained a coveted internship. But yeah, he wasn’t ready for college…
Anonymous
11/08/2024 07:24
Subject: So Many Posts with “My High STAT …”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:yes, MCPS has the worst grade inflation in the DMV. It's ridiculous. You have to be basically checked out to not do extremely well.
Colleges know but it doesn't correct everything.
It depends. Sure if you take honors (i.e. regular classes) it's pretty easy. Some students though sign-up for more rigorous programs and even take APs to boot.
You only have to get an 89.5 one quarter and a 79.5 the next to get an A. That in an of itself is INSANE grade inflation.
Is this true?? When I was in high school (yes, it was 20 years ago but still!) an 89 was a B and a 79 was a C so how would these average out to an A??
Not a MCPS family so not speaking from experience but from context it wasn’t an 89, it was an 89.5. Presumably MCPS rounds to the nearest integer? So that would round up to 90. Similar with 79.5 rounding up to an 80. I don’t know how they get that an A one semester with a B another semester rounds to an A. I’m sure there’s some explanation but it’s not obvious to me. At my kid’s private they round to the nearest 10th so I don’t really get all this.
In any event, grade inflation is a mixed bag. Kids should have realistic indicators of how much they’ve mastery of the subject they have. But letter grades and forced bell curves are also kinda arbitrary and lead to grade grubbing so aren’t a great system either.
Anonymous
11/08/2024 07:22
Subject: So Many Posts with “My High STAT …”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:yes, MCPS has the worst grade inflation in the DMV. It's ridiculous. You have to be basically checked out to not do extremely well.
Colleges know but it doesn't correct everything.
It depends. Sure if you take honors (i.e. regular classes) it's pretty easy. Some students though sign-up for more rigorous programs and even take APs to boot.
You only have to get an 89.5 one quarter and a 79.5 the next to get an A. That in an of itself is INSANE grade inflation.
Is this true?? When I was in high school (yes, it was 20 years ago but still!) an 89 was a B and a 79 was a C so how would these average out to an A??
In what world does an 89.5 round down to 89? Or a 79.5 round down to 79? An 89.5 rounds to 90, which in a system without A- grades is an A, 4.0, and a 79.5 rounds to 80, which is a B, 3.0, and when you average 4.0 and 3.0 you get a 3.5, which rounds up to a 4, which is an A.
All this grade calculation is not the real source of grade inflation, either. The source of grade inflation is teachers giving As to “good enough” work, rather than reserving As for excellent work. But we all know why they do it: DCUMs will make their lives miserable if little Larlo doesn’t have straight As on everything all the time. Send your kid to a school where the teachers give more Cs than As, and the dreaded “grade inflation” disappears.
What??? In this scenario, those grade would round to an 80 & a 90. Then, the student would have an 85. That is a B.
Anonymous
11/08/2024 07:17
Subject: So Many Posts with “My High STAT …”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:yes, MCPS has the worst grade inflation in the DMV. It's ridiculous. You have to be basically checked out to not do extremely well.
Colleges know but it doesn't correct everything.
It depends. Sure if you take honors (i.e. regular classes) it's pretty easy. Some students though sign-up for more rigorous programs and even take APs to boot.
You only have to get an 89.5 one quarter and a 79.5 the next to get an A. That in an of itself is INSANE grade inflation.
Is this true?? When I was in high school (yes, it was 20 years ago but still!) an 89 was a B and a 79 was a C so how would these average out to an A??
In what world does an 89.5 round down to 89? Or a 79.5 round down to 79? An 89.5 rounds to 90, which in a system without A- grades is an A, 4.0, and a 79.5 rounds to 80, which is a B, 3.0, and when you average 4.0 and 3.0 you get a 3.5, which rounds up to a 4, which is an A.
All this grade calculation is not the real source of grade inflation, either. The source of grade inflation is teachers giving As to “good enough” work, rather than reserving As for excellent work. But we all know why they do it: DCUMs will make their lives miserable if little Larlo doesn’t have straight As on everything all the time. Send your kid to a school where the teachers give more Cs than As, and the dreaded “grade inflation” disappears.
Anonymous
11/08/2024 06:53
Subject: So Many Posts with “My High STAT …”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:yes, MCPS has the worst grade inflation in the DMV. It's ridiculous. You have to be basically checked out to not do extremely well.
Colleges know but it doesn't correct everything.
It depends. Sure if you take honors (i.e. regular classes) it's pretty easy. Some students though sign-up for more rigorous programs and even take APs to boot.
You only have to get an 89.5 one quarter and a 79.5 the next to get an A. That in an of itself is INSANE grade inflation.
Is this true?? When I was in high school (yes, it was 20 years ago but still!) an 89 was a B and a 79 was a C so how would these average out to an A??
Maybe the semester grade is just the higher of the two quarter grades? I don’t follow either. It sounds unusual relative to what I am used to as well.
The percentages don’t matter once converted to the letter system. So the A and B averages with rounding to an A. An A and C would average to a B.
Anonymous
11/08/2024 01:34
Subject: So Many Posts with “My High STAT …”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:yes, MCPS has the worst grade inflation in the DMV. It's ridiculous. You have to be basically checked out to not do extremely well.
Colleges know but it doesn't correct everything.
It depends. Sure if you take honors (i.e. regular classes) it's pretty easy. Some students though sign-up for more rigorous programs and even take APs to boot.
You only have to get an 89.5 one quarter and a 79.5 the next to get an A. That in an of itself is INSANE grade inflation.
Is this true?? When I was in high school (yes, it was 20 years ago but still!) an 89 was a B and a 79 was a C so how would these average out to an A??
Maybe the semester grade is just the higher of the two quarter grades? I don’t follow either. It sounds unusual relative to what I am used to as well.
Anonymous
11/07/2024 22:48
Subject: So Many Posts with “My High STAT …”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:yes, MCPS has the worst grade inflation in the DMV. It's ridiculous. You have to be basically checked out to not do extremely well.
Colleges know but it doesn't correct everything.
It depends. Sure if you take honors (i.e. regular classes) it's pretty easy. Some students though sign-up for more rigorous programs and even take APs to boot.
You only have to get an 89.5 one quarter and a 79.5 the next to get an A. That in an of itself is INSANE grade inflation.
Is this true?? When I was in high school (yes, it was 20 years ago but still!) an 89 was a B and a 79 was a C so how would these average out to an A??
I guess your 79 was in math?
Anonymous
11/07/2024 22:43
Subject: So Many Posts with “My High STAT …”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:yes, MCPS has the worst grade inflation in the DMV. It's ridiculous. You have to be basically checked out to not do extremely well.
Colleges know but it doesn't correct everything.
It depends. Sure if you take honors (i.e. regular classes) it's pretty easy. Some students though sign-up for more rigorous programs and even take APs to boot.
You only have to get an 89.5 one quarter and a 79.5 the next to get an A. That in an of itself is INSANE grade inflation.
Is this true?? When I was in high school (yes, it was 20 years ago but still!) an 89 was a B and a 79 was a C so how would these average out to an A??