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Anonymous wrote:These are not real magnets. They are lotteries. MCPs is too cheap to staff interesting electives at every MA so they pick and choose what ends up in each of the DCC middle schools under the guise of a “magnet”. A true magnet would involve an application, and in the case of the performing arts, an audition.

A magnet is a school with offerings which attract students from outside its attendance area.

They are using it to entice students to go from other schools that are brighter and have higher test scores. It's not a magnet and just offering specialty classes. Past few years multiple students have gone back to their home schools from Loiederman. The arts program is meh.

Which is what magnets often do.

Yes, but the programs are not for smart or gifted and very basic. Its not a real magnet. Its a fancy name for specializing.

Do you or did you have a kid at one of these schools? Because I know some pretty smart, gifted, and talented kids at Loiederman. And the arts program there is manifestly not meh or basic. The problem is rather the reverse: the standards are high and so it can be harder to get into the shows for theater (whether spoken or musical), which _are_ auditioned through a rigorous process. Theater classes, however, are available to all students. Dance company is also auditioned, although dance classes are open to everyone. Kids ascend through levels in band, orchestra, and chorus, and each higher one is obviously a great deal better than the last. So the program is really for kids who want to work quite hard at something they love and improve at it year over year. Just because it's not math doesn't mean it's not difficult or worthwhile, and just because it's not auditioned for entrance into the school doesn't mean there are no expectations.

This is a long post about theatre, but the performing arts include band, orchestra and chorus. I think they are considerably less impressive. Where are all the Loiederman kids in All State and Honors ensembles?

All State and Honors ensembles are a separate thing from school. Not all students want to participate in those

Each school is given a set number of spots in honors chorus, etc. based on enrollment numbers.

This is only true for All-County

For All-State and Honor ensembles, there is actual audition

Jr Honor Band/Orchestra (7th-9th grade) audition is tonight. Based on the info, number of students from:
Loiederman MS =1
Cabin John MS = 20
Wood MS =1
Eastern MS = 4
Key MS =1
Gaithersburg MS = 2
Hallie Wells MS = 5
Frost MS = 35
Pyle MS = 32

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Anonymous wrote:These are not real magnets. They are lotteries. MCPs is too cheap to staff interesting electives at every MA so they pick and choose what ends up in each of the DCC middle schools under the guise of a “magnet”. A true magnet would involve an application, and in the case of the performing arts, an audition.

A magnet is a school with offerings which attract students from outside its attendance area.

They are using it to entice students to go from other schools that are brighter and have higher test scores. It's not a magnet and just offering specialty classes. Past few years multiple students have gone back to their home schools from Loiederman. The arts program is meh.

Which is what magnets often do.

Yes, but the programs are not for smart or gifted and very basic. Its not a real magnet. Its a fancy name for specializing.

Do you or did you have a kid at one of these schools? Because I know some pretty smart, gifted, and talented kids at Loiederman. And the arts program there is manifestly not meh or basic. The problem is rather the reverse: the standards are high and so it can be harder to get into the shows for theater (whether spoken or musical), which _are_ auditioned through a rigorous process. Theater classes, however, are available to all students. Dance company is also auditioned, although dance classes are open to everyone. Kids ascend through levels in band, orchestra, and chorus, and each higher one is obviously a great deal better than the last. So the program is really for kids who want to work quite hard at something they love and improve at it year over year. Just because it's not math doesn't mean it's not difficult or worthwhile, and just because it's not auditioned for entrance into the school doesn't mean there are no expectations.

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Anonymous wrote:These are not real magnets. They are lotteries. MCPs is too cheap to staff interesting electives at every MA so they pick and choose what ends up in each of the DCC middle schools under the guise of a “magnet”. A true magnet would involve an application, and in the case of the performing arts, an audition.

A magnet is a school with offerings which attract students from outside its attendance area.

They are using it to entice students to go from other schools that are brighter and have higher test scores. It's not a magnet and just offering specialty classes. Past few years multiple students have gone back to their home schools from Loiederman. The arts program is meh.

Which is what magnets often do.

Yes, but the programs are not for smart or gifted and very basic. Its not a real magnet. Its a fancy name for specializing.

Do you or did you have a kid at one of these schools? Because I know some pretty smart, gifted, and talented kids at Loiederman. And the arts program there is manifestly not meh or basic. The problem is rather the reverse: the standards are high and so it can be harder to get into the shows for theater (whether spoken or musical), which _are_ auditioned through a rigorous process. Theater classes, however, are available to all students. Dance company is also auditioned, although dance classes are open to everyone. Kids ascend through levels in band, orchestra, and chorus, and each higher one is obviously a great deal better than the last. So the program is really for kids who want to work quite hard at something they love and improve at it year over year. Just because it's not math doesn't mean it's not difficult or worthwhile, and just because it's not auditioned for entrance into the school doesn't mean there are no expectations.

This is a long post about theatre, but the performing arts include band, orchestra and chorus. I think they are considerably less impressive. Where are all the Loiederman kids in All State and Honors ensembles?

All State and Honors ensembles are a separate thing from school. Not all students want to participate in those

Each school is given a set number of spots in honors chorus, etc. based on enrollment numbers.

This is only true for All-County

For All-State and Honor ensembles, there is actual audition

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Anonymous wrote:These are not real magnets. They are lotteries. MCPs is too cheap to staff interesting electives at every MA so they pick and choose what ends up in each of the DCC middle schools under the guise of a “magnet”. A true magnet would involve an application, and in the case of the performing arts, an audition.

A magnet is a school with offerings which attract students from outside its attendance area.

They are using it to entice students to go from other schools that are brighter and have higher test scores. It's not a magnet and just offering specialty classes. Past few years multiple students have gone back to their home schools from Loiederman. The arts program is meh.

Which is what magnets often do.

Yes, but the programs are not for smart or gifted and very basic. Its not a real magnet. Its a fancy name for specializing.

Do you or did you have a kid at one of these schools? Because I know some pretty smart, gifted, and talented kids at Loiederman. And the arts program there is manifestly not meh or basic. The problem is rather the reverse: the standards are high and so it can be harder to get into the shows for theater (whether spoken or musical), which _are_ auditioned through a rigorous process. Theater classes, however, are available to all students. Dance company is also auditioned, although dance classes are open to everyone. Kids ascend through levels in band, orchestra, and chorus, and each higher one is obviously a great deal better than the last. So the program is really for kids who want to work quite hard at something they love and improve at it year over year. Just because it's not math doesn't mean it's not difficult or worthwhile, and just because it's not auditioned for entrance into the school doesn't mean there are no expectations.

This is a long post about theatre, but the performing arts include band, orchestra and chorus. I think they are considerably less impressive. Where are all the Loiederman kids in All State and Honors ensembles?

All State and Honors ensembles are a separate thing from school. Not all students want to participate in those

Each school is given a set number of spots in honors chorus, etc. based on enrollment numbers.

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Anonymous wrote:These are not real magnets. They are lotteries. MCPs is too cheap to staff interesting electives at every MA so they pick and choose what ends up in each of the DCC middle schools under the guise of a “magnet”. A true magnet would involve an application, and in the case of the performing arts, an audition.

A magnet is a school with offerings which attract students from outside its attendance area.

They are using it to entice students to go from other schools that are brighter and have higher test scores. It's not a magnet and just offering specialty classes. Past few years multiple students have gone back to their home schools from Loiederman. The arts program is meh.

Which is what magnets often do.

Yes, but the programs are not for smart or gifted and very basic. Its not a real magnet. Its a fancy name for specializing.

Do you or did you have a kid at one of these schools? Because I know some pretty smart, gifted, and talented kids at Loiederman. And the arts program there is manifestly not meh or basic. The problem is rather the reverse: the standards are high and so it can be harder to get into the shows for theater (whether spoken or musical), which _are_ auditioned through a rigorous process. Theater classes, however, are available to all students. Dance company is also auditioned, although dance classes are open to everyone. Kids ascend through levels in band, orchestra, and chorus, and each higher one is obviously a great deal better than the last. So the program is really for kids who want to work quite hard at something they love and improve at it year over year. Just because it's not math doesn't mean it's not difficult or worthwhile, and just because it's not auditioned for entrance into the school doesn't mean there are no expectations.

This is a long post about theatre, but the performing arts include band, orchestra and chorus. I think they are considerably less impressive. Where are all the Loiederman kids in All State and Honors ensembles?

All State and Honors ensembles are a separate thing from school. Not all students want to participate in those