Anonymous
Post 11/03/2024 16:51     Subject: Martha
Anonymous wrote:I love it. She's usually so stoic and without feeling. I love her baddie era!

She's really funny and honest.



Not a nice person, but yes entertaining.
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2024 16:49     Subject: Martha
Anonymous wrote:So she married rich and has been grifting ever since off the idle rich New England / Hamptons housewife aesthetic. See also that food network flyover state hick / failed actress who married the oil heir and sells proles a ranch family aesthetic. Literally same blueprint.

No. Unlike Ree Drummond who hid the fact that she married a into an extremely wealthy oil family (who got their land and mineral rights the old fashioned way- stealing from the Osage), Martha has always been open about who she was. Are you suggesting that a Polish girl from Nutley can’t enjoy the WASP aesthetic? Martha was a successful model, a successful stockbroker, and a wildly successful businesswoman. And she worked her a$$ off for it.

This is a woman who wakes before dawn and does a ton of labor herself. Her catering business wasn’t launched with a giant investment from anyone. It was out of her kitchen and backyard. Yes, a lot of what she’s sold through the years has been the WASP aesthetic, but she’s had her family (especially her mother) and shared traditional Polish dishes and customs as well. She’s always been an open book.
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2024 16:13     Subject: Martha
Anonymous wrote:She is boss man. She built her empire, went to jail and lost like a billion and her reputation then reinvented herself to become popular and successful again.

I would seriously like to see you all haters do that, male or female.

She didn't feel sorry for herself, she's true to herself and knows what floats her boat and not, she's got some street in her no matter how much she was born with cause I'm telling you, no way someone like snoop is gonna be into her otherwise. She is a self made woman who has her faults but ultimately, she is true to herself.

In my book, she's cool. Honesty is a better look than stupidity and wish washy no matter how much you may like someone's shtick. She makes mistakes for sure and she isn't perfect but she's real. Love her.


and the whole conviction was utter bs. Read about how many members of congress had been doing and continued to do worse and got nary a slap.

Why isn't anyone mad a Comey? His desire to be in front of the cameras has motivated him to take down strong women.
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2024 16:12     Subject: Martha
^ Love Madonna for same reason. Whatever you think of their stuff who they are is admirable. All you haters - do something with your life!
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2024 16:10     Subject: Martha
She is boss man. She built her empire, went to jail and lost like a billion and her reputation then reinvented herself to become popular and successful again.

I would seriously like to see you all haters do that, male or female.

She didn't feel sorry for herself, she's true to herself and knows what floats her boat and not, she's got some street in her no matter how much she was born with cause I'm telling you, no way someone like snoop is gonna be into her otherwise. She is a self made woman who has her faults but ultimately, she is true to herself.

In my book, she's cool. Honesty is a better look than stupidity and wish washy no matter how much you may like someone's shtick. She makes mistakes for sure and she isn't perfect but she's real. Love her.
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2024 15:50     Subject: Re:Martha
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Martha’s story reinforces how dangerous it can be to be a woman even if you are attractive and rich. She is a true feminist and her story shows there is still no equality for women.

Voice of sanity


This. She was an assertive, intelligent, non apologizing woman and the world hates that. Especially Comey who envied her fame.
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2024 15:19     Subject: Martha
So she married rich and has been grifting ever since off the idle rich New England / Hamptons housewife aesthetic. See also that food network flyover state hick / failed actress who married the oil heir and sells proles a ranch family aesthetic. Literally same blueprint.
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2024 15:15     Subject: Martha
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She always promoted herself as a "teacher" but as someone who has had many teachers, I always found her to be too rigid and sort of boring. The best teachers help you find your own way...she was didactic and basically just talks at the reader or viewer. Like a task master...like her father.


As a big Martha fan, I think that was partly the brand they built. It’s really interesting to see the contrast between the old brand, and even the recent blog, and her MarthaStewart48 insta account which (at least used to be) pretty unfiltered. Her caption writing was so different (dare I say sloppy) than the blog or the old show scripts. On her daytime show you got peeks of it here and there.


Also a longtime fan and yes definitely. She shows less precision in a variety of ways in her thinking... and honestly I have wondered if it is simply an aspect of her aging. She may look great but her mind is almost 85 years old and to me it shows but that's only because I watched her a lot in her 50's. Or maybe it's her thc use who knows? Definitely looser, for better or worse. And boredering on inapprpriate sometimes the way some older people can.. I wonder what her daughter makes of it.


* bordering
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2024 15:14     Subject: Martha
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She always promoted herself as a "teacher" but as someone who has had many teachers, I always found her to be too rigid and sort of boring. The best teachers help you find your own way...she was didactic and basically just talks at the reader or viewer. Like a task master...like her father.


As a big Martha fan, I think that was partly the brand they built. It’s really interesting to see the contrast between the old brand, and even the recent blog, and her MarthaStewart48 insta account which (at least used to be) pretty unfiltered. Her caption writing was so different (dare I say sloppy) than the blog or the old show scripts. On her daytime show you got peeks of it here and there.


Also a longtime fan and yes definitely. She shows less precision in a variety of ways in her thinking... and honestly I have wondered if it is simply an aspect of her aging. She may look great but her mind is almost 85 years old and to me it shows but that's only because I watched her a lot in her 50's. Or maybe it's her thc use who knows? Definitely looser, for better or worse. And boredering on inapprpriate sometimes the way some older people can.. I wonder what her daughter makes of it.
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2024 14:05     Subject: Re:Martha
Anonymous wrote:Martha’s story reinforces how dangerous it can be to be a woman even if you are attractive and rich. She is a true feminist and her story shows there is still no equality for women.

Voice of sanity
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2024 13:54     Subject: Martha
Anonymous wrote:I remain impressed by what she accomplished despite her obvious flaws.

My favorite parts of the documentary:

Learning that she painted an entire house by herself—impressive!

[/b]Watching her berate the person for cutting the orange with the wrong knife ;0)[b]

I think the fact that she is a legit friend of Snoop speaks volumes; she must be an interesting and cool person IRL.


That was really something. They did mention that footage was from when she was waiting to be sentenced, so she was under crazy stress. think that scene really epitomized the point they were making about how she needs control, and when she can’t have it, she can be quite critical and unhappy. Like, she couldn’t even just let someone cut an orange in a “less efficient” way without taking over! It made me wonder what life has been like for her daughter. I would have liked to hear more about that. But I also felt empathy for Martha in that moment, and all the anger, humiliation and fear she must have been experiencing with her pending incarceration.
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2024 12:30     Subject: Martha
She clearly didn't have enough self esteem to leave men who treated her like dirt. She was desperate to stay with her constantly cheating husband. Seeing how her long term boyfriend, Charles Simonyi, treated her when she went to prison and after was awful. He told her he was marrying someone else while they were in bed together. They had been together for 15 years.
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2024 11:58     Subject: Martha
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Half way through and I'm loving the new Martha documentary. Most surprising so far: her childhood thru stock broker years.

Her dad was physically (belts + stick whippings) and verbally abusive, and her mother was not motherly at all. With six kids at home, the dad loses his sales job and the family had to grown their own food and barter with neighbors for other basic needs.

Martha somehow earned a scholarship to Barnard and also sent most of her modeling paychecks home to help support her younger siblings. Someone above mentioned that Martha had the "privilege" to pursue her passions. I would argue that she forged her own path that enabled her to do that. She was already a very successful woman when she was introduced to her first husband by a fellow Barnard classmate (the guy's sister). He was in law school at the time but didn't even go into law.

Until now, my opinion of Martha Stewart has oscillated between IDGAF to pure dislike. Now, I kinda dig the woman. No wonder Snoop is a big fan.


She is self made for sure. The reference to privilege was that she did marry rich (she mentions her honeymoon was 5 months!!) and could buy a multi-acre estate fairly young, start her own catering business and have enough connections to grow it. Clearly she was extremely savvy and did way more than is possible for most people. But I do think she had privilege from her marriage, her modeling and her stockbroker job.


Privilege from her stock broker job? You need to realize what a big deal it was that she got that job? You do not understand that women didn't get those jobs and were not wanted there. They didn't make it clear enough for you that there were no women in those jobs then. Can you imagine what she went through. I'm pretty old and worked in a male dominated industry and the things those of us who worked in those fields went through were truly horrible.
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2024 11:48     Subject: Martha
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She's a very interesting woman: blunt, funny, smart accomplished, talented, doesn't seem kind or empathetic. Does the special address the jail thing? It never made sense to me she'd be convicted.


Different standards for women.

Do you realize how many members of Congress have done something similar? Not only are they not in jail, but they get to make the laws under which others are prosecuted.

https://campaignlegal.org/update/stock-act-failed-effort-stop-insider-trading-congress


Exactly. It was also infuriating seeing Comey's smug creep face knowing what he did to aid getting that orange putrid stain elected. That man hates strong women and helped bring about the near ruin of this country. Why am I not surprised how badly the FBI wanted Martha. It was a huge nothingburger but look at the sideshow they built. Comey is a self serving useless narcissist who is a hero in his own mind.
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2024 06:28     Subject: Martha
I remain impressed by what she accomplished despite her obvious flaws.

My favorite parts of the documentary:

Learning that she painted an entire house by herself—impressive!

Watching her berate the person for cutting the orange with the wrong knife ;0)

I think the fact that she is a legit friend of Snoop speaks volumes; she must be an interesting and cool person IRL.