Anonymous
09/30/2024 20:05
Subject: No teacher yet for my child’s class…
Anonymous wrote:Is this a school in a lower-income cluster?
I apologize for inserting socio-economic class into this, but my kids have never had long-term subs in any class (last one is in high school now), and they're in a high-income school cluster. Teachers were happy to come teach in our area.
Nope, this is a Whitman feeder.
Anonymous
09/30/2024 20:05
Subject: No teacher yet for my child’s class…
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My kids have had amazing teachers who tend to be popular and well supported by parents, and terrible teachers who tend to be unpopular with students and parents. It’s like that at least in my kids’ schools. I’ve learned to be ready to jump in to supplement and—in extreme circumstances—unenroll them.
Mcps teacher pay seems generous the longer you work, so not feeling too sorry for them in that respect.
Is it still good pay if they are working 65 hours a week? With few breaks during the school day? And little flexibility when it comes to time off?
“Generous” is quite a word to use.
Teachers get more time off than the traditional workforce. Everyone knows this, fool.
Me:
65 hours a week x 40 weeks = 2600 hours
My “traditional workforce” DH:
40 hours a week x 50 weeks = 2000 hours
I’m not sure how math works for you, but my “foolish” math shows me working far more than my DH.
What I know, foolish as I am, is that my full year of work is compacted into 10 packed months with limited flexibility.
But you are so much wiser than me, so I guess math works differently for you.
I work around 65 hours per week and work greater than 40 weeks per year. I guess my math would be different from you.
Do you want a cookie? 🍪 point is - no one should be working that much. It’s disgusting that it’s being required to get tasks done. Burnout is real, is serious, and is life-threatening. It’s not a competition. It’s not sustainable for anyone.
You ate all the cookies with your math comparison that you started and now are trying to dismiss anyone who counters your hypocrisy.
I’m someone else Karen. Shouldn’t you be working? I mean you had to tell us how amazing you are at working in a public teacher forum.
So let’s just let the people taking care of our children burn out. That’s the American way, isn’t it? Work until we die? Surely there are plenty of competent and trustworthy experienced teachers just chomping at the bit to teach your little angels. Get real.
Anonymous
09/30/2024 20:03
Subject: No teacher yet for my child’s class…
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My kids have had amazing teachers who tend to be popular and well supported by parents, and terrible teachers who tend to be unpopular with students and parents. It’s like that at least in my kids’ schools. I’ve learned to be ready to jump in to supplement and—in extreme circumstances—unenroll them.
Mcps teacher pay seems generous the longer you work, so not feeling too sorry for them in that respect.
Is it still good pay if they are working 65 hours a week? With few breaks during the school day? And little flexibility when it comes to time off?
“Generous” is quite a word to use.
Teachers get more time off than the traditional workforce. Everyone knows this, fool.
Me:
65 hours a week x 40 weeks = 2600 hours
My “traditional workforce” DH:
40 hours a week x 50 weeks = 2000 hours
I’m not sure how math works for you, but my “foolish” math shows me working far more than my DH.
What I know, foolish as I am, is that my full year of work is compacted into 10 packed months with limited flexibility.
But you are so much wiser than me, so I guess math works differently for you.
You aren’t working 65 hours per week and certainly not regularly, lying liar.
I know it’s easier to degrade me when you think I’m lazy.
I grade essays. Stacks of them. Since I haven’t figured out magic yet, I actually have to read and comment on each one.
So, figuring 50 essays at 15 minutes each, that’s 12.5 hours of grading for that assignment alone. And I have 90 additional students turning in paragraphs for an additional 7.5 hours of grading. So that’s 20 hours of grading. I also have to plan, meet with students, email parents, attend grade level meetings, and occasionally come up for air.
And I repeat this cycle every 2-3 weeks.
So please don’t tell me about my job. If you haven’t taught, you simply don’t know. You. Don’t. Know.
And you didn’t know that you would have to read and grade essays?! How horrible for a teacher to have to do such a thing!
You have to meet with students and grade?! What?!
Oh, the humanity!!!!!!!!!!
Who knew teachers had to do this?
Anonymous
09/30/2024 20:03
Subject: No teacher yet for my child’s class…
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My kids have had amazing teachers who tend to be popular and well supported by parents, and terrible teachers who tend to be unpopular with students and parents. It’s like that at least in my kids’ schools. I’ve learned to be ready to jump in to supplement and—in extreme circumstances—unenroll them.
Mcps teacher pay seems generous the longer you work, so not feeling too sorry for them in that respect.
Is it still good pay if they are working 65 hours a week? With few breaks during the school day? And little flexibility when it comes to time off?
“Generous” is quite a word to use.
Teachers get more time off than the traditional workforce. Everyone knows this, fool.
Me:
65 hours a week x 40 weeks = 2600 hours
My “traditional workforce” DH:
40 hours a week x 50 weeks = 2000 hours
I’m not sure how math works for you, but my “foolish” math shows me working far more than my DH.
What I know, foolish as I am, is that my full year of work is compacted into 10 packed months with limited flexibility.
But you are so much wiser than me, so I guess math works differently for you.
I work around 65 hours per week and work greater than 40 weeks per year. I guess my math would be different from you.
Do you want a cookie? 🍪 point is - no one should be working that much. It’s disgusting that it’s being required to get tasks done. Burnout is real, is serious, and is life-threatening. It’s not a competition. It’s not sustainable for anyone.
You ate all the cookies with your math comparison that you started and now are trying to dismiss anyone who counters your hypocrisy.
I’m the math PP. It seems as if there is an additional poster here who is supportive of teachers, saying we shouldn’t have to work as hard as we do. I did not write that comment above.
To the kind and reasonable PP: thank you. I wish there were more of you on this site.
Anonymous
09/30/2024 20:01
Subject: No teacher yet for my child’s class…
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My kids have had amazing teachers who tend to be popular and well supported by parents, and terrible teachers who tend to be unpopular with students and parents. It’s like that at least in my kids’ schools. I’ve learned to be ready to jump in to supplement and—in extreme circumstances—unenroll them.
Mcps teacher pay seems generous the longer you work, so not feeling too sorry for them in that respect.
Is it still good pay if they are working 65 hours a week? With few breaks during the school day? And little flexibility when it comes to time off?
“Generous” is quite a word to use.
Teachers get more time off than the traditional workforce. Everyone knows this, fool.
Me:
65 hours a week x 40 weeks = 2600 hours
My “traditional workforce” DH:
40 hours a week x 50 weeks = 2000 hours
I’m not sure how math works for you, but my “foolish” math shows me working far more than my DH.
What I know, foolish as I am, is that my full year of work is compacted into 10 packed months with limited flexibility.
But you are so much wiser than me, so I guess math works differently for you.
Here’s your cookie. 🍪
Anonymous
09/30/2024 20:01
Subject: No teacher yet for my child’s class…
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My kids have had amazing teachers who tend to be popular and well supported by parents, and terrible teachers who tend to be unpopular with students and parents. It’s like that at least in my kids’ schools. I’ve learned to be ready to jump in to supplement and—in extreme circumstances—unenroll them.
Mcps teacher pay seems generous the longer you work, so not feeling too sorry for them in that respect.
Is it still good pay if they are working 65 hours a week? With few breaks during the school day? And little flexibility when it comes to time off?
“Generous” is quite a word to use.
Teachers get more time off than the traditional workforce. Everyone knows this, fool.
Me:
65 hours a week x 40 weeks = 2600 hours
My “traditional workforce” DH:
40 hours a week x 50 weeks = 2000 hours
I’m not sure how math works for you, but my “foolish” math shows me working far more than my DH.
What I know, foolish as I am, is that my full year of work is compacted into 10 packed months with limited flexibility.
But you are so much wiser than me, so I guess math works differently for you.
You aren’t working 65 hours per week and certainly not regularly, lying liar.
I know it’s easier to degrade me when you think I’m lazy.
I grade essays. Stacks of them. Since I haven’t figured out magic yet, I actually have to read and comment on each one.
So, figuring 50 essays at 15 minutes each, that’s 12.5 hours of grading for that assignment alone. And I have 90 additional students turning in paragraphs for an additional 7.5 hours of grading. So that’s 20 hours of grading. I also have to plan, meet with students, email parents, attend grade level meetings, and occasionally come up for air.
And I repeat this cycle every 2-3 weeks.
So please don’t tell me about my job. If you haven’t taught, you simply don’t know. You. Don’t. Know.
Anonymous
09/30/2024 20:00
Subject: No teacher yet for my child’s class…
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My kids have had amazing teachers who tend to be popular and well supported by parents, and terrible teachers who tend to be unpopular with students and parents. It’s like that at least in my kids’ schools. I’ve learned to be ready to jump in to supplement and—in extreme circumstances—unenroll them.
Mcps teacher pay seems generous the longer you work, so not feeling too sorry for them in that respect.
Is it still good pay if they are working 65 hours a week? With few breaks during the school day? And little flexibility when it comes to time off?
“Generous” is quite a word to use.
Teachers get more time off than the traditional workforce. Everyone knows this, fool.
Me:
65 hours a week x 40 weeks = 2600 hours
My “traditional workforce” DH:
40 hours a week x 50 weeks = 2000 hours
I’m not sure how math works for you, but my “foolish” math shows me working far more than my DH.
What I know, foolish as I am, is that my full year of work is compacted into 10 packed months with limited flexibility.
But you are so much wiser than me, so I guess math works differently for you.
I work around 65 hours per week and work greater than 40 weeks per year. I guess my math would be different from you.
Do you want a cookie? 🍪 point is - no one should be working that much. It’s disgusting that it’s being required to get tasks done. Burnout is real, is serious, and is life-threatening. It’s not a competition. It’s not sustainable for anyone.
You ate all the cookies with your math comparison that you started and now are trying to dismiss anyone who counters your hypocrisy.
Anonymous
09/30/2024 19:58
Subject: No teacher yet for my child’s class…
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is very common. I am a middle school teacher. We are down 20 teachers out of 60 teachers. It is horrific. The ones that they did hire, just recently, quit. They said it was not what they imagined, too stressful, etc. I too will be leaving at the end of the year. However, if I find something sooner, I have no problem leaving the school, students and families. F all of them
How about f you? You suck and should not be in a classroom.
F your kids. F your demons that come and curse the teachers out. Or the ones that spit on us. Or the kids that say they will rape other kids diddy style in the middle of the lesson. The parents that are oblivious when we call them. It is some how the teachers fault that the student spit in their face. Sorry but I am tired of going home abused by your children.
You’re pathetic.
And so are your children. Sorry but teachers would not leave even with the little pay, if you all were capable of raising your children correctly. Kids can not sit for even 15 minutes of direct lesson. They can not stop touching each others bodies. They can not speak a complete sentence. I had a middle schooler ask me to tie their shoes today because she does not know how. what?!?
Anonymous
09/30/2024 19:58
Subject: No teacher yet for my child’s class…
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My kids have had amazing teachers who tend to be popular and well supported by parents, and terrible teachers who tend to be unpopular with students and parents. It’s like that at least in my kids’ schools. I’ve learned to be ready to jump in to supplement and—in extreme circumstances—unenroll them.
Mcps teacher pay seems generous the longer you work, so not feeling too sorry for them in that respect.
Is it still good pay if they are working 65 hours a week? With few breaks during the school day? And little flexibility when it comes to time off?
“Generous” is quite a word to use.
Teachers get more time off than the traditional workforce. Everyone knows this, fool.
Me:
65 hours a week x 40 weeks = 2600 hours
My “traditional workforce” DH:
40 hours a week x 50 weeks = 2000 hours
I’m not sure how math works for you, but my “foolish” math shows me working far more than my DH.
What I know, foolish as I am, is that my full year of work is compacted into 10 packed months with limited flexibility.
But you are so much wiser than me, so I guess math works differently for you.
I work around 65 hours per week and work greater than 40 weeks per year. I guess my math would be different from you.
Do you want a cookie? 🍪 point is - no one should be working that much. It’s disgusting that it’s being required to get tasks done. Burnout is real, is serious, and is life-threatening. It’s not a competition. It’s not sustainable for anyone.
Anonymous
09/30/2024 19:56
Subject: No teacher yet for my child’s class…
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is very common. I am a middle school teacher. We are down 20 teachers out of 60 teachers. It is horrific. The ones that they did hire, just recently, quit. They said it was not what they imagined, too stressful, etc. I too will be leaving at the end of the year. However, if I find something sooner, I have no problem leaving the school, students and families. F all of them
How about f you? You suck and should not be in a classroom.
F your kids. F your demons that come and curse the teachers out. Or the ones that spit on us. Or the kids that say they will rape other kids diddy style in the middle of the lesson. The parents that are oblivious when we call them. It is some how the teachers fault that the student spit in their face. Sorry but I am tired of going home abused by your children.
You’re pathetic.
Anonymous
09/30/2024 19:56
Subject: No teacher yet for my child’s class…
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is very common. I am a middle school teacher. We are down 20 teachers out of 60 teachers. It is horrific. The ones that they did hire, just recently, quit. They said it was not what they imagined, too stressful, etc. I too will be leaving at the end of the year. However, if I find something sooner, I have no problem leaving the school, students and families. F all of them
How about f you? You suck and should not be in a classroom.
F your kids. F your demons that come and curse the teachers out. Or the ones that spit on us. Or the kids that say they will rape other kids diddy style in the middle of the lesson. The parents that are oblivious when we call them. It is some how the teachers fault that the student spit in their face. Sorry but I am tired of going home abused by your children.
Anonymous
09/30/2024 19:55
Subject: No teacher yet for my child’s class…
My K kid has 28 kids in class. They applied and got anothet teacher slot but until they hire someone there are multiple classes with 28 kids each.
Anonymous
09/30/2024 19:54
Subject: No teacher yet for my child’s class…
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is this a school in a lower-income cluster?
I apologize for inserting socio-economic class into this, but my kids have never had long-term subs in any class (last one is in high school now), and they're in a high-income school cluster. Teachers were happy to come teach in our area.
No teacher is happy to teach a class of over 30+ kids regardless of high income cluster or not.
PP you replied to. Maybe this is because my kids are teens now, but throughout their schooling in MCPS, no class was larger than 28 or so, except my oldest's first grade class years ago, which had a sudden influx of students mid-year, at which point they were 31 in the class. Now that was chaos.
Anonymous
09/30/2024 19:53
Subject: No teacher yet for my child’s class…
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My kids have had amazing teachers who tend to be popular and well supported by parents, and terrible teachers who tend to be unpopular with students and parents. It’s like that at least in my kids’ schools. I’ve learned to be ready to jump in to supplement and—in extreme circumstances—unenroll them.
Mcps teacher pay seems generous the longer you work, so not feeling too sorry for them in that respect.
Is it still good pay if they are working 65 hours a week? With few breaks during the school day? And little flexibility when it comes to time off?
“Generous” is quite a word to use.
Teachers get more time off than the traditional workforce. Everyone knows this, fool.
Me:
65 hours a week x 40 weeks = 2600 hours
My “traditional workforce” DH:
40 hours a week x 50 weeks = 2000 hours
I’m not sure how math works for you, but my “foolish” math shows me working far more than my DH.
What I know, foolish as I am, is that my full year of work is compacted into 10 packed months with limited flexibility.
But you are so much wiser than me, so I guess math works differently for you.
I work around 65 hours per week and work greater than 40 weeks per year. I guess my math would be different from you.
Anonymous
09/30/2024 19:50
Subject: No teacher yet for my child’s class…
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My kids have had amazing teachers who tend to be popular and well supported by parents, and terrible teachers who tend to be unpopular with students and parents. It’s like that at least in my kids’ schools. I’ve learned to be ready to jump in to supplement and—in extreme circumstances—unenroll them.
Mcps teacher pay seems generous the longer you work, so not feeling too sorry for them in that respect.
Is it still good pay if they are working 65 hours a week? With few breaks during the school day? And little flexibility when it comes to time off?
“Generous” is quite a word to use.
Teachers get more time off than the traditional workforce. Everyone knows this, fool.
Me:
65 hours a week x 40 weeks = 2600 hours
My “traditional workforce” DH:
40 hours a week x 50 weeks = 2000 hours
I’m not sure how math works for you, but my “foolish” math shows me working far more than my DH.
What I know, foolish as I am, is that my full year of work is compacted into 10 packed months with limited flexibility.
But you are so much wiser than me, so I guess math works differently for you.
You aren’t working 65 hours per week and certainly not regularly, lying liar.