Anonymous
09/30/2024 14:02
Subject: Do not want to hire her
Anonymous wrote:We’ve had a contractor on our team who I’ve worked with closely for the past 6 months. In that time we have become friendly (both females). My manager, who barely works directly with her, wants to bring her on as a FTE. Here’s the thing— she would be a bad hire. In the time I’ve spent with her, I see the kinds of games she plays, and it’s not pretty. She likes to stir things up. She would be difficult to manage and the quality of her work product is not where it needs to be. I was hoping her time with us would end once her contract is up, but my clueless manager has complicated things. I’ve spoken up to my manager and let her know the situation so she can stop getting the contractor’s hopes up that she will continue with us.
I have to have the tough conversation (which I was hoping to avoid) with the contractor about her not being a good fit. What is a tactful / thoughtful way to break the news to her?
Your post is confusing. If your manager wants to hire her, despite you raising these issues, why have a conversation with the contractor?
Anonymous
09/30/2024 13:56
Subject: Re:Do not want to hire her
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m not threatened in the least bit. I’ll have to carry more work load if she’s hired. Not fair to me. Plus she likes to start drama and is not above lying to cover her as. What is not right about not hiring her?
Why exactly are you friends with her then?
We became friendly over time. These behaviors started to surface more recently. She’s not a bad person, her insecurities get the best of her. But I can’t make excuses and pretend I don’t know what will happen if this person is hired. DRAMA. Self-serving, unproductive behavior.
I'm feeling mixed about this, OP. If her work isn't getting done or if she isn't doing the work to the contract standards, then that's easy - don't renew. But if she's working to standards (government employees and contractors typically have middle of the road standards), and the issue is you became friendly with her and now don't like her...well, don't become so friendly next time. You're jeopardizing her financial well-being because you suddenly dislike her. It's gross.
Anonymous
09/30/2024 13:26
Subject: Re:Do not want to hire her
Anonymous wrote:You should at least tell her why she is getting fired.
You don't understand how contractors work. They are hired for a specific length of time as noted in a contract. "Not renewing the contract" is not the same thing as "firing the employee." There are many reasons why a contract may not be renewed.
There are clearly a few posters here who do not work in professional environments and I suspect are never employed stay at home parents.
Anonymous
09/30/2024 13:24
Subject: Do not want to hire her
Anonymous wrote:You sound horrible. Actively trying to prevent this person from being hired? Most people would mind their own business here, and you don't want to do that. Says more about you than about her.
Ridiculous. Op is doing a good job of evaluating this employee and should speak up. She's worked closely enough with this person that her boss should value her input.
Anonymous
09/30/2024 12:32
Subject: Re:Do not want to hire her
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m not threatened in the least bit. I’ll have to carry more work load if she’s hired. Not fair to me. Plus she likes to start drama and is not above lying to cover her as. What is not right about not hiring her?
Why exactly are you friends with her then?
We became friendly over time. These behaviors started to surface more recently. She’s not a bad person, her insecurities get the best of her. But I can’t make excuses and pretend I don’t know what will happen if this person is hired. DRAMA. Self-serving, unproductive behavior.
Just a thought, maybe her insecurity stems from the fact that her position is not secure. I’d examine your own behavior and your boss’s to see if you have encouraged the kind of behavior you’re having a problem with. You haven’t shared anything specific enough for us to assess whether the person is actually DRAMA or if you’re overreacting.
Nonsense. The OP is not responsible for her coworker's feelings.
She’s not her coworker, she’s her manager. What exactly is OP saying is the problem? I’m confused.
Anonymous
09/30/2024 12:13
Subject: Re:Do not want to hire her
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m not threatened in the least bit. I’ll have to carry more work load if she’s hired. Not fair to me. Plus she likes to start drama and is not above lying to cover her as. What is not right about not hiring her?
Why exactly are you friends with her then?
We became friendly over time. These behaviors started to surface more recently. She’s not a bad person, her insecurities get the best of her. But I can’t make excuses and pretend I don’t know what will happen if this person is hired. DRAMA. Self-serving, unproductive behavior.
Just a thought, maybe her insecurity stems from the fact that her position is not secure. I’d examine your own behavior and your boss’s to see if you have encouraged the kind of behavior you’re having a problem with. You haven’t shared anything specific enough for us to assess whether the person is actually DRAMA or if you’re overreacting.
Nonsense. The OP is not responsible for her coworker's feelings.
Anonymous
09/30/2024 12:10
Subject: Do not want to hire her
OP, dismiss these crazy posters who keep trying to reframe the contractor’s performance as your fault. It’s likely that they engage in similar behavior or are part of some protected group (including all stripes of government). Lots of people want good-paying jobs that don’t hold them accountable. They shirk, they blame, they resist RTO, on and on. You are right, these people are worse than deadweight because they spoil the morale and work environment for everyone, thereby reducing the productivity of others. BTDT. Such people are toxic.