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Anonymous wrote:The Vanderbilt rep said it to make sure everyone is actually fluent in English. I think international students may have others taking their English fluency test for them.

The rep also said it’s to confirm fit. Whatever that means.

It's all about race. Colleges started this two weeks after the SCOTUS ruling

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Vanderbilt rep said it to make sure everyone is actually fluent in English. I think international students may have others taking their English fluency test for them.

The rep also said it’s to confirm fit. Whatever that means.

It's all about race. Colleges started this two weeks after the SCOTUS ruling

Yep. They glance to see skin color. Then they move on.

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Anonymous wrote:The Vanderbilt rep said it to make sure everyone is actually fluent in English. I think international students may have others taking their English fluency test for them.

The rep also said it’s to confirm fit. Whatever that means.

It's all about race. Colleges started this two weeks after the SCOTUS ruling

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Anonymous wrote:Reading that Vanderbilt (kid's ED school) has optional 90 second Glimpse video (https://initialview.com/glimpse/).

Where can we get help editing something like this? Not overly produced, but what to say that's not covered in the application etc? A script? What to wear, how to film it etc. Should there be editing? What if kid has some online material to show? Should it be edited in with kid's voice?

I guess this is what a private counselor is for?

No help is needed. Good grief. My kid did glimpse and other similar "optional" videos for at least 3 schools. They made each up themselves! They got into multiple top 10 schools, including the ones with videos. Come on this is not hard. If a kid needs a private counselor for any of this application stuff they should not be applying to elites. They will not do well at ivy/elite: they are filled with intelligent, creative go-getters who do not need mommy to seek help on this or anything else.

Agreed. These schools know those kids who deserve to be there and will do well. My kid has asked for and needed no adult assistance in this process. This is who these schools are looking for, and not kids whose parents need to hire an "essay coach" or video producer. Get a grip, parents!

Anonymous wrote:The Vanderbilt rep said it to make sure everyone is actually fluent in English. I think international students may have others taking their English fluency test for them.

The rep also said it’s to confirm fit. Whatever that means.

Anonymous wrote:For the glimpse video , do you make one video that goes to multiple schools or does each school have a unique video? Not familiar with the platform

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Anonymous wrote:But what if you are a bad orator?

For Brown at least, the only requirement is for the prospective student to say their name and high school. After that you can do what you want. The student doesn't necessarily have to be the star as long as the video is still about the student, if that makes sense.

The speculation that this is a way of identifying non-minorities posing as minorities is interesting. Brown's came about during COVID, to replace interviews. It is more equitable in that sense (since not all people had access to an interviewer). But, it still creates some equity issues in terms of access to resources. That's why highly edited/high production techniques could not be well received.

What I often think about is security - while most kids today are pretty comfortable having their video/face out there, Brown (and others) must need to have some pretty significant security in place to ensure someone cannot access all these videos, each of which puts a name of a minor to a specific face to specific high school. I think the legal challenge may lie there, not in the affirmative action sense.

My kid did one. I think it's good, but I also hope it's not a large data point on which they base any decisions - i think some kids may give it outsize importance since it's different (supplemental essays have all started to sound the same at this point). And that may be part of this - it's possible, but trickier, to repurpose these videos for different schools.

I don’t get this at all. How is it any less secure than, say, a HS yearbook? Or any other school system of records that is kept or school ID purposes?

Agreed--the concern is ridiculous. These schools have endless private data on applicants: names, social security numbers, essays that reveal all sorts of personal stuff, grades, etc.
They keep it all secure. They're not going to suddenly keep these videos in a non-secure spot.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But what if you are a bad orator?

For Brown at least, the only requirement is for the prospective student to say their name and high school. After that you can do what you want. The student doesn't necessarily have to be the star as long as the video is still about the student, if that makes sense.

The speculation that this is a way of identifying non-minorities posing as minorities is interesting. Brown's came about during COVID, to replace interviews. It is more equitable in that sense (since not all people had access to an interviewer). But, it still creates some equity issues in terms of access to resources. That's why highly edited/high production techniques could not be well received.

What I often think about is security - while most kids today are pretty comfortable having their video/face out there, Brown (and others) must need to have some pretty significant security in place to ensure someone cannot access all these videos, each of which puts a name of a minor to a specific face to specific high school. I think the legal challenge may lie there, not in the affirmative action sense.

My kid did one. I think it's good, but I also hope it's not a large data point on which they base any decisions - i think some kids may give it outsize importance since it's different (supplemental essays have all started to sound the same at this point). And that may be part of this - it's possible, but trickier, to repurpose these videos for different schools.

I don’t get this at all. How is it any less secure than, say, a HS yearbook? Or any other school system of records that is kept or school ID purposes?

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Anonymous wrote:But what if you are a bad orator?

For Brown at least, the only requirement is for the prospective student to say their name and high school. After that you can do what you want. The student doesn't necessarily have to be the star as long as the video is still about the student, if that makes sense.

The speculation that this is a way of identifying non-minorities posing as minorities is interesting. Brown's came about during COVID, to replace interviews. It is more equitable in that sense (since not all people had access to an interviewer). But, it still creates some equity issues in terms of access to resources. That's why highly edited/high production techniques could not be well received.

What I often think about is security - while most kids today are pretty comfortable having their video/face out there, Brown (and others) must need to have some pretty significant security in place to ensure someone cannot access all these videos, each of which puts a name of a minor to a specific face to specific high school. I think the legal challenge may lie there, not in the affirmative action sense.

My kid did one. I think it's good, but I also hope it's not a large data point on which they base any decisions - i think some kids may give it outsize importance since it's different (supplemental essays have all started to sound the same at this point). And that may be part of this - it's possible, but trickier, to repurpose these videos for different schools.