Anonymous
Post 09/23/2024 22:49     Subject: US News best colleges 2025

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:1. Princeton
2. MIT
3. Harvard
4. Stanford
5. Yale
6. Caltech, Duke, JHU, Northwestern
10. UPenn
11. Cornell, UChicago
13. Brown, Columbia
15. Dartmouth, UCLA
17. Berkeley
18. Rice, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt
21. CMU, UMich, WashU
24. Emory, Georgetown, UVA
27. UNC, USC
29. UCSD
30. NYU UF UT Austin
33. Georgia Tech, UC Davis, UC Irvine, UIUC
37. BC, Tufts
39. UCSB, UW Madison



Not a terrible ranking, though UCLA seems high.


#1 Public 8 or 9 years in a row, more applications than any other school (public or private), and top rankings in a blizzard of key areas of evaluation.

#15 seems reasonable.


I guess in my head I'm always subconsciously ranking by student quality.


Oh boo hoo, show us on the doll where the rejection letter hurt you.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2024 22:45     Subject: US News best colleges 2025

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:1. Princeton
2. MIT
3. Harvard
4. Stanford
5. Yale
6. Caltech, Duke, JHU, Northwestern
10. UPenn
11. Cornell, UChicago
13. Brown, Columbia
15. Dartmouth, UCLA
17. Berkeley
18. Rice, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt
21. CMU, UMich, WashU
24. Emory, Georgetown, UVA
27. UNC, USC
29. UCSD
30. NYU UF UT Austin
33. Georgia Tech, UC Davis, UC Irvine, UIUC
37. BC, Tufts
39. UCSB, UW Madison



Not a terrible ranking, though UCLA seems high.


#1 Public 8 or 9 years in a row, more applications than any other school (public or private), and top rankings in a blizzard of key areas of evaluation.

#15 seems reasonable.

Yeah, #15 for UCLA is where i started doubting this list and it got worse from there.


Would have been #12 or higher, but the goons sent into the protests by Ackman and Seinfeld created some drag …
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2024 22:43     Subject: US News best colleges 2025

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:1. Princeton
2. MIT
3. Harvard
4. Stanford
5. Yale
6. Caltech, Duke, JHU, Northwestern
10. UPenn
11. Cornell, UChicago
13. Brown, Columbia
15. Dartmouth, UCLA
17. Berkeley
18. Rice, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt
21. CMU, UMich, WashU
24. Emory, Georgetown, UVA
27. UNC, USC
29. UCSD
30. NYU UF UT Austin
33. Georgia Tech, UC Davis, UC Irvine, UIUC
37. BC, Tufts
39. UCSB, UW Madison



Not a terrible ranking, though UCLA seems high.


#1 Public 8 or 9 years in a row, more applications than any other school (public or private), and top rankings in a blizzard of key areas of evaluation.

#15 seems reasonable.


I guess in my head I'm always subconsciously ranking by student quality.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2024 22:40     Subject: US News best colleges 2025

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:William and Mary behing Virginia Tech.

This is what high school counselors have been saying for years.


No they haven't.

Not shocking VT is ranked higher when they play affirmative action with first gens


What school doesn't? At least they're transparent about it.
DP


Not on the level VA tech does. They want 40% of the student body to be FGLI. Seems middle class gets no financial aid as a result of that. Makes US news happy, not so much the average Virginian who can't afford 40K COA on a 100k income


Again: that is no longer part of the criteria they use for ranking. Move along.


Did you even read the methodology? They replaced first gen factors with Pell grant factors. Still weighted as heavily as last year. These factors only reflect social mobility, not educational experience for all. USN&WR remain irrelevant for most DCUM users whose kids are not in need of social mobility.

A college that can take a poor kid and turn them middle to upper middle class can surely help your student stay at their class level. The only people who do not need to worry about social mobility are people whose children will work for the family business anyway.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2024 22:35     Subject: US News best colleges 2025

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:William and Mary behing Virginia Tech.

This is what high school counselors have been saying for years.


No they haven't.

Not shocking VT is ranked higher when they play affirmative action with first gens


What school doesn't? At least they're transparent about it.
DP


Not on the level VA tech does. They want 40% of the student body to be FGLI. Seems middle class gets no financial aid as a result of that. Makes US news happy, not so much the average Virginian who can't afford 40K COA on a 100k income


Again: that is no longer part of the criteria they use for ranking. Move along.


Did you even read the methodology? They replaced first gen factors with Pell grant factors. Still weighted as heavily as last year. These factors only reflect social mobility, not educational experience for all. USN&WR remain irrelevant for most DCUM users whose kids are not in need of social mobility.


THIS
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2024 22:31     Subject: US News best colleges 2025

Anonymous wrote:Schools should only be ranked based on the number of Pell grant recipients that make up freshmen enrollment.

We need to shift to the belief that a college is only as good as the society in which it serves. Academic excellence is a fake construct of a patriarchal society.


The Ivies are free for anyone making $100k or less and basically free at $150k.

You need top grades/scores/intelligence to get that lottery ticket.

But the top schools are serving the poor with free tuition/room&board.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2024 22:30     Subject: US News best colleges 2025

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:William and Mary behing Virginia Tech.

This is what high school counselors have been saying for years.


No they haven't.

Not shocking VT is ranked higher when they play affirmative action with first gens


What school doesn't? At least they're transparent about it.
DP


Not on the level VA tech does. They want 40% of the student body to be FGLI. Seems middle class gets no financial aid as a result of that. Makes US news happy, not so much the average Virginian who can't afford 40K COA on a 100k income


Again: that is no longer part of the criteria they use for ranking. Move along.


Did you even read the methodology? They replaced first gen factors with Pell grant factors. Still weighted as heavily as last year. These factors only reflect social mobility, not educational experience for all. USN&WR remain irrelevant for most DCUM users whose kids are not in need of social mobility.

My kids could use some mobility.


+1
So could mine! I love how the PP deigns to speak for everyone.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2024 22:28     Subject: US News best colleges 2025

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:1. Princeton
2. MIT
3. Harvard
4. Stanford
5. Yale
6. Caltech, Duke, JHU, Northwestern
10. UPenn
11. Cornell, UChicago
13. Brown, Columbia
15. Dartmouth, UCLA
17. Berkeley
18. Rice, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt
21. CMU, UMich, WashU
24. Emory, Georgetown, UVA
27. UNC, USC
29. UCSD
30. NYU UF UT Austin
33. Georgia Tech, UC Davis, UC Irvine, UIUC
37. BC, Tufts
39. UCSB, UW Madison



Not a terrible ranking, though UCLA seems high.


#1 Public 8 or 9 years in a row, more applications than any other school (public or private), and top rankings in a blizzard of key areas of evaluation.

#15 seems reasonable.

Yeah, #15 for UCLA is where i started doubting this list and it got worse from there.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2024 22:28     Subject: US News best colleges 2025

Schools should only be ranked based on the number of Pell grant recipients that make up freshmen enrollment.

We need to shift to the belief that a college is only as good as the society in which it serves. Academic excellence is a fake construct of a patriarchal society.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2024 22:27     Subject: US News best colleges 2025

Anonymous wrote:Where TF are Babson, Bentley, San Jose State, and UC Merced (the four horsemen of REAL academic excellence)?


You're still banging this drum? You know the WSJ rankings were about OUTCOMES, right?
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2024 22:27     Subject: US News best colleges 2025

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:William and Mary behing Virginia Tech.

This is what high school counselors have been saying for years.


No they haven't.

Not shocking VT is ranked higher when they play affirmative action with first gens


What school doesn't? At least they're transparent about it.
DP


Not on the level VA tech does. They want 40% of the student body to be FGLI. Seems middle class gets no financial aid as a result of that. Makes US news happy, not so much the average Virginian who can't afford 40K COA on a 100k income


Again: that is no longer part of the criteria they use for ranking. Move along.


Did you even read the methodology? They replaced first gen factors with Pell grant factors. Still weighted as heavily as last year. These factors only reflect social mobility, not educational experience for all. USN&WR remain irrelevant for most DCUM users whose kids are not in need of social mobility.

My kids could use some mobility.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2024 22:25     Subject: US News best colleges 2025

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:William and Mary behing Virginia Tech.

This is what high school counselors have been saying for years.


No they haven't.

Not shocking VT is ranked higher when they play affirmative action with first gens


What school doesn't? At least they're transparent about it.
DP


Not on the level VA tech does. They want 40% of the student body to be FGLI. Seems middle class gets no financial aid as a result of that. Makes US news happy, not so much the average Virginian who can't afford 40K COA on a 100k income


Again: that is no longer part of the criteria they use for ranking. Move along.


Did you even read the methodology? They replaced first gen factors with Pell grant factors. Still weighted as heavily as last year. These factors only reflect social mobility, not educational experience for all. USN&WR remain irrelevant for most DCUM users whose kids are not in need of social mobility.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2024 22:21     Subject: US News best colleges 2025

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:1. Princeton
2. MIT
3. Harvard
4. Stanford
5. Yale
6. Caltech, Duke, JHU, Northwestern
10. UPenn
11. Cornell, UChicago
13. Brown, Columbia
15. Dartmouth, UCLA
17. Berkeley
18. Rice, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt
21. CMU, UMich, WashU
24. Emory, Georgetown, UVA
27. UNC, USC
29. UCSD
30. NYU UF UT Austin
33. Georgia Tech, UC Davis, UC Irvine, UIUC
37. BC, Tufts
39. UCSB, UW Madison



Not a terrible ranking, though UCLA seems high.


#1 Public 8 or 9 years in a row, more applications than any other school (public or private), and top rankings in a blizzard of key areas of evaluation.

#15 seems reasonable.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2024 22:19     Subject: US News best colleges 2025

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Someone explain to me how UC Merced could be ranked so high??

It is better than UConn, a flagship that has been around for 150 years longer, has a medical and law school, has a higher GPA and higher SAT scores (well UC Merced bans SAT's, but before the ban).

UConn is ranked 70!


Because the rankings don’t mean anything. It was created to sell magazines. And they don’t even have a magazine anymore - so website subscription? LOL


Looking at the methodology, it doesn't seem to focus much on academics, and why does that subjective peer assessment account for as much as 20%?
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2024 22:17     Subject: US News best colleges 2025

Anonymous wrote:CS
1. Stanford
2. CMU, MIT, Cal
5. Princeton, UIUC
7. Cornell, GT, UWash
10. CIT, Mich, TX
13. Harvard, UCLA, UCSD
16. Columbia, Purdue, Wisconsin
19. UMD, Duke, JHU, Penn, USC, Yale
25. Brown, NW, Irvine, UChicago
29. Mudd, Rice, Davis, UNC, VT

Mudd lower than Wisconsin, yale, and Irvine? Sure lmao.