Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:University Schools of education across the country are struggling financially because enrollment in teacher education programs are at an all time low- American University announced this week that their SOE is closing. Johns Hopkins SOE is staffed w scores of adjuncts. Young people in US dont want to be teachers. Average teacher age in US, like nurses, 40s. What is going to happen in next few years as people retire out….
Most people going into teaching could not afford AU or the loans.
I’m not sure why you would think that. My DD is an ed major and we’re quite able to afford college… OOS, no less.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:University Schools of education across the country are struggling financially because enrollment in teacher education programs are at an all time low- American University announced this week that their SOE is closing. Johns Hopkins SOE is staffed w scores of adjuncts. Young people in US dont want to be teachers. Average teacher age in US, like nurses, 40s. What is going to happen in next few years as people retire out….
Most people going into teaching could not afford AU or the loans.
I’m not sure why you would think that. My DD is an ed major and we’re quite able to afford college… OOS, no less.
Exactly, it’s for kids of rich parents who can pay. Then there is everyone else who cannot.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:University Schools of education across the country are struggling financially because enrollment in teacher education programs are at an all time low- American University announced this week that their SOE is closing. Johns Hopkins SOE is staffed w scores of adjuncts. Young people in US dont want to be teachers. Average teacher age in US, like nurses, 40s. What is going to happen in next few years as people retire out….
Most people going into teaching could not afford AU or the loans.
I’m not sure why you would think that. My DD is an ed major and we’re quite able to afford college… OOS, no less.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:University Schools of education across the country are struggling financially because enrollment in teacher education programs are at an all time low- American University announced this week that their SOE is closing. Johns Hopkins SOE is staffed w scores of adjuncts. Young people in US dont want to be teachers. Average teacher age in US, like nurses, 40s. What is going to happen in next few years as people retire out….
Most people going into teaching could not afford AU or the loans.
Anonymous wrote:University Schools of education across the country are struggling financially because enrollment in teacher education programs are at an all time low- American University announced this week that their SOE is closing. Johns Hopkins SOE is staffed w scores of adjuncts. Young people in US dont want to be teachers. Average teacher age in US, like nurses, 40s. What is going to happen in next few years as people retire out….
Anonymous wrote:Media should report
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The public education budget sucks. There are no resources.
MCPS starting salary is $62k and goes up to $127k with experience and qualifications. That's to work 10 months/year.
The median household income in MoCo is $125k, so a couple right out of college would earn a bit more than the median household income in MoCo, for 10 months of work.
It's not amazing, but I'd say that's not bad either.
https://data.census.gov/profile/Montgomery_County,_Maryland?g=050XX00US24031
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/district/departments/ersc/employees/pay/schedules/salary_schedule_current.pdf
They also get an amazing pension, and it seems like a lot less than 10 months. My kids teachers are out a few days a month so seems more like 9 months when you include the leave that most take.
The amazing pension is gone under the new system - of those who have been in since 10-ish years ago get that. They are not "out" a few days a month for vacation, they are pulled for IEP meetings and other meetings where their attendance is required.
Seriously people, if this was such a great job, people would be clamoring for it instead of most quitting within 5 years, many sooner. And we wouldn't have to bring in those from overseas
So they have to work more than 20 years to get 50% of their pay for life now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The public education budget sucks. There are no resources.
MCPS starting salary is $62k and goes up to $127k with experience and qualifications. That's to work 10 months/year.
The median household income in MoCo is $125k, so a couple right out of college would earn a bit more than the median household income in MoCo, for 10 months of work.
It's not amazing, but I'd say that's not bad either.
https://data.census.gov/profile/Montgomery_County,_Maryland?g=050XX00US24031
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/district/departments/ersc/employees/pay/schedules/salary_schedule_current.pdf
They also get an amazing pension, and it seems like a lot less than 10 months. My kids teachers are out a few days a month so seems more like 9 months when you include the leave that most take.
The amazing pension is gone under the new system - of those who have been in since 10-ish years ago get that. They are not "out" a few days a month for vacation, they are pulled for IEP meetings and other meetings where their attendance is required.
Seriously people, if this was such a great job, people would be clamoring for it instead of most quitting within 5 years, many sooner. And we wouldn't have to bring in those from overseas
You are conflating working conditions with compensation. Higher compensation can't fix working conditions. If the working conditions are that bad (and it sounds like for many teachers, they are pretty bad) more money is not going to help retain people.
Stop complaining about the pension. Most of the decrease in the pension benefit for people hired in 2011 was made up for by increases in the county supplement to the pension (MCPS is the only school system in the state that supplements the state pension). People who retired prior to 1999 got 1.8% times years of service times average salary for last 3 years. In 1999 the county supplement added 0.08% and in 2006 that was increased to 0.2%, so a total of 2%. Then for people hired in 2011 or later, the state pension was reduced to 1.5%, so they got 1.5% plus the county supplement for a total of 1.7%. So 0.1% lower than the pension for people who retired before 1999. Meanwhile, life expectancy has increased so the pension costs for people hired in 2011 or later will probably be significantly higher than those for people who retired before 1999. Pension costs are eating up the budget as it is and it's only going to get worse.