Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let them go bankrupt and just demolish the buildings once they get repossessed for unpaid property taxes. Provide dispossessed people with one way bus tickets to very liberal jurisdictions like NYC that believe housing is a "human right".

You don't believe housing is a human right? Interesting.

its not

NP of COURSE shelter is a human right. WTF??
The US has signed onto Universal Declaration of Human Rights which says housing is a human right, so whatever you believe, this country already counts it among the rights of its citizens.

What type of shelter and where? Shelter comes in variety of prices ranges, size, quality even in one location. Nobody is entitled to the high quality housing in premium areas, but it would be great if everyone could afford basic housing in a SAFE area with at least basic amenities around.

There are a lot of initiatives to build communities of microhomes in the country side where land is much cheaper, but places with already existing infrastructure (roads, electricity, plumbing, sewer) and transit access are more expensive. Also, these communities have to be operated on self sufficient basis where new owners take care of their homes and don't engage in degenerate behavior making the place unlivable to those trying to get back on their feet. lf such communities are going to need staff to run them (security, mental health professionals, drug rehab, drivers, social workers) then they become too expensive and a burden to charity and taxpayers.

Another idea thrown around that I personally support is fixing dilapidated property in areas that had become rundown or crime ridden and hence are very affordable. People could be given rights to fix abandoned property or be able to buy this property for a symbolic price, fix and live in it. Italy is doing this with its abandoned rural towns and some have great success from foreign investment. This is again the idea that would only work if people offered this option are serious about getting back on their feet and their homelessness is a result of misfortune or financial trouble. If their homelessness is a result of drug abuse or mental/physical illness, they won't be able to do well and nothing will improve. Also, crime in these areas will have to be addressed first.

So, no matter what we do, affordable housing is more about who the tenants are and what problems they have. If their problem is inability to function at all and anti-social behavior and needing constant care then mental hospitals/rehabs would have to return.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let them go bankrupt and just demolish the buildings once they get repossessed for unpaid property taxes. Provide dispossessed people with one way bus tickets to very liberal jurisdictions like NYC that believe housing is a "human right".

You don't believe housing is a human right? Interesting.

What does this mean to you? Please explain how this human right can be exercised. I think people disagree because of semantics or not understanding logistics.

The logistics are complicated because housing, like food and utilities and healthcare depends on labor of other people. Someone has to buy land, build it, or rehab it if dilapidated, maintain it in habitable shape, pay taxes on it before it's available. If they have to sell this housing to you for less than what it costs them to do all of the above then they are going to close the business.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let them go bankrupt and just demolish the buildings once they get repossessed for unpaid property taxes. Provide dispossessed people with one way bus tickets to very liberal jurisdictions like NYC that believe housing is a "human right".

If we don't treat housing as a human right, then we end up looking like Florida with its sidewalks and parks full of homeless people.

Many grade B vacant office buildings should be converted to Single Room Occupancy hotels like they once had in New York. These are dorm style buildings so the large bathrooms at the central elevator core can just add showers and office can be converted to 200 sq ft rooms. Homeless would not have to leave during the day if they had no where to go, but could stay in a central area with computers television, treatment programs, etc. Much cheaper than maintaining them in scattered locations and policing the crime that afflicts them

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Many refuse housing that comes with any rules.

Reading the Post account today, the fault is on the Council and the mayor for laws and policies that totally put deadbeat tenants in control. DC doesn’t have a printing press to keep money flowing forever.

This. +1M. It is next to impossible to get a deadbeat tenant evicted, especially with the ERAP (Emergency Rental Assistance Program). It IS impossible to get rent paying (i.e. subsidized) tenants evicted from a building due to behavioral issues. Coupled with Housing First as a policy handing out vouchers to the long term homeless/mentally ill with no requirements for case management has turned private apartment buildings into unregulated unsupervised mental institutions. There are some simple fixes: (1) fund case management and rapidly evict tenants who fail to comply and (2) permit rapid eviction of any tenant who engages in threatening/violent behaviors; (3) revise the "source of income" provision to the DC Human Rights Act to allow landlords to refuse subsidy tenants if 20% of the building is already subsidy-tenanted.

Anonymous wrote:Liberals run everything into the ground they are in charge of, hence their emotions for evicting people. Logic says nothing is free & if you aren’t paying, your aren’t staying!!!!

Now try English.

Liberals run everything into the ground they are in charge of, hence their emotions for evicting people. Logic says nothing is free & if you aren’t paying, your aren’t staying!!!!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let them go bankrupt and just demolish the buildings once they get repossessed for unpaid property taxes. Provide dispossessed people with one way bus tickets to very liberal jurisdictions like NYC that believe housing is a "human right".

You don't believe housing is a human right? Interesting.

its not

NP of COURSE shelter is a human right. WTF??
The US has signed onto Universal Declaration of Human Rights which says housing is a human right, so whatever you believe, this country already counts it among the rights of its citizens.

Not true. "the UDHR is not a treaty and has not been signed or ratified by states." Including the United States.

https://research.un.org/en/docs/humanrights/undhr

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let them go bankrupt and just demolish the buildings once they get repossessed for unpaid property taxes. Provide dispossessed people with one way bus tickets to very liberal jurisdictions like NYC that believe housing is a "human right".

You don't believe housing is a human right? Interesting.

its not

NP of COURSE shelter is a human right. WTF??
The US has signed onto Universal Declaration of Human Rights which says housing is a human right, so whatever you believe, this country already counts it among the rights of its citizens.

Reading the Post account today, the fault is on the Council and the mayor for laws and policies that totally put deadbeat tenants in control. DC doesn’t have a printing press to keep money flowing forever.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let them go bankrupt and just demolish the buildings once they get repossessed for unpaid property taxes. Provide dispossessed people with one way bus tickets to very liberal jurisdictions like NYC that believe housing is a "human right".

You don't believe housing is a human right? Interesting.

No, I don’t. This whole logic of everything being a human right is a slippery slope. If everything must be free because it is a human right, It creates very bad incentives that make markets fail. The government has to pay for these “free things” if they are considered human rights which usually causes the quality things to decline and the cost to increase. Individual consumers are more responsive to price and quality than the government. Making things humans right and having the government pay for them typically results in a less efficient use of resources.

big brain over here

no, make markets fail again

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let them go bankrupt and just demolish the buildings once they get repossessed for unpaid property taxes. Provide dispossessed people with one way bus tickets to very liberal jurisdictions like NYC that believe housing is a "human right".

You don't believe housing is a human right? Interesting.

Housing may be a right, but there is nothing that says the government must provide housing. For instance, free speech is a human right. However, the government doesn't owe you a platform to exercise your right to free speech.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let them go bankrupt and just demolish the buildings once they get repossessed for unpaid property taxes. Provide dispossessed people with one way bus tickets to very liberal jurisdictions like NYC that believe housing is a "human right".

You don't believe housing is a human right? Interesting.

No, I don’t. This whole logic of everything being a human right is a slippery slope. If everything must be free because it is a human right, It creates very bad incentives that make markets fail. The government has to pay for these “free things” if they are considered human rights which usually causes the quality things to decline and the cost to increase. Individual consumers are more responsive to price and quality than the government. Making things humans right and having the government pay for them typically results in a less efficient use of resources.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let them go bankrupt and just demolish the buildings once they get repossessed for unpaid property taxes. Provide dispossessed people with one way bus tickets to very liberal jurisdictions like NYC that believe housing is a "human right".

You don't believe housing is a human right? Interesting.

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Anonymous wrote:Let them go bankrupt and just demolish the buildings once they get repossessed for unpaid property taxes. Provide dispossessed people with one way bus tickets to very liberal jurisdictions like NYC that believe housing is a "human right".

You don't believe housing is a human right? Interesting.

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