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Anonymous wrote:Embargoed means it's done, but not for public consumption until a specified date.

People in education have the full list beyond the top 10 and anyone with integrity will abide by the embargo.

It's a news story and any newspaper not specifically subject to the embargo should publish the list if they have it.

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Anonymous wrote:They have 4 schools at the rank of 6 because if there were 3, that would spell out 6-6-6 and then people would be afraid to apply to them.

Srsly, what kind of ranking system ends up with 4 6s in a Top 10. It's like they didn't get the assignment OR there's practically no difference in the education on offer.

I don't find that strange at all. If they want to reflect reality, they should really be doing tiers rather than numerical rankings because it's silly to me that a school at no. 7 is somehow objectively better than a school at no. 6. But I think they rank in specific numbers rather than in tiers because most people like it that way.

Even tiers is useless and creates a false impression of the reality of college.

Not useless but perhaps there can be many tier systems based on the various qualities that different kids are looking for. E.g., nerdy scientist, ambitious overachiever, party animal, armchair philosopher, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:They have 4 schools at the rank of 6 because if there were 3, that would spell out 6-6-6 and then people would be afraid to apply to them.

Srsly, what kind of ranking system ends up with 4 6s in a Top 10. It's like they didn't get the assignment OR there's practically no difference in the education on offer.

I don't find that strange at all. If they want to reflect reality, they should really be doing tiers rather than numerical rankings because it's silly to me that a school at no. 7 is somehow objectively better than a school at no. 6. But I think they rank in specific numbers rather than in tiers because most people like it that way.

Anonymous wrote:Embargoed means it still has time to change right? I think a more reasonable list would go:

1. Princeton
2. MIT
3. Harvard
3. Stanford
5. Yale
6. Caltech
6. Duke
8. Johns Hopkins
8. Northwestern
10. Penn

Anonymous wrote:My kid didn't let the list change his mind. If he had, he would have been at Hopkins this year. Hopkins would NOT have been a good fit. A parent is an alum and just nothing about Hopkins is this kid.

People that go solely by highest ranking are doing it wrong. Lots of mental health issues and bad fit because people don't do their due diligence in looking at type of fit/environment, etc.

And, yes, for some Hopkins is a great match. When you get up into the 20s it really doesn't matter points here and there.

Anonymous wrote:I don't see the point. The top 20 never change much. They rank the schools to sell magazines.

Why else do they continue to rank them every year? So, people can see Princeton moved up to 1 or slipped to 3?

Some you all are a little obsessed with this.

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Anonymous wrote:They have 4 schools at the rank of 6 because if there were 3, that would spell out 6-6-6 and then people would be afraid to apply to them.

Srsly, what kind of ranking system ends up with 4 6s in a Top 10. It's like they didn't get the assignment OR there's practically no difference in the education on offer.

I don't find that strange at all. If they want to reflect reality, they should really be doing tiers rather than numerical rankings because it's silly to me that a school at no. 7 is somehow objectively better than a school at no. 6. But I think they rank in specific numbers rather than in tiers because most people like it that way.

Even tiers is useless and creates a false impression of the reality of college.

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Anonymous wrote:So apparently someone at the Daily Pennsylvanian (the undergrad newspaper at Penn) was able to get their hands on the embargoed U.S. News & World Report college rankings for 2025. They posted a story about it, listing the top 10 schools:

https://www.thedp.com/article/2024/09/penn-princeton-mit-us-news-rankings-drop

1. Princeton
2. MIT
3. Harvard
4. Yale
5. Stanford
6. Caltech
6. Duke
6. Johns Hopkins
6. Northwestern
10. Penn

Thoughts?

So they got rid of 7-9?

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Anonymous wrote:CalTech should be on a different kind of list. Still tops but not tops along with "full service" schools the Hopkins, Chicago, Harvard

You could say the same about MIT

Anonymous wrote:They have 4 schools at the rank of 6 because if there were 3, that would spell out 6-6-6 and then people would be afraid to apply to them.

Srsly, what kind of ranking system ends up with 4 6s in a Top 10. It's like they didn't get the assignment OR there's practically no difference in the education on offer.

Anonymous wrote:Are we satisfied that US news is clearly a bit more stable and based in reality of what schools are prestigious.