Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DEI director here. If the school says the event is open to all, believe them. If it was for a specific community within the school, they would say so.
I fully support DEI but the equity part I think can be unrealistic at times and maybe not fair as once we all start comparing our advantages and disadvantages it can get messy.
For example, school needs parents to pay and host an event for all parents in a grade. One parent wants to be listed as a host on the invitation but they express they can not pay what the others are paying. Thoughts on this? I think it is unfair and all should pay equally or just not be listed as a host. Thoughts?
Not the PP - but from what I've seen at our (3) schools - the school doesn't structure events where a "subset of parents" pay to host a school sanctioned event and then put their names on the invitation.
Examples: Families offer to use their home to host an event but the school pays for it. Families offer to host a pot-luck event - where all participating families bring food. Or, the school hosts the event at school. In cases where there are student events (trips) that parents are paying a fee, the school provides support for students receiving aid.
Well your school is different. At our schools it is common for parents to host the entire grade of parents and pay for the party. Very common. It is a nice gesture. School could never afford that and potlucks are crappy food and a mess for the hosts to deal with in my experience.
Of course all schools are different and there was no judgement in my examples - it was purely an explanation of how our schools have thought though DEI and choose how to handle financial disparity. (which - obviously is still apparent when you go to the hosts' home - even if the school is footing the bill). And yes, the host obviously is still being generous and has to deal with the mess and ready the house for hosting (whether they pay or the school pays and whether there is a pot luck or not).
We only went to one pot luck (a long honored and beloved tradition at that school pre-COVID) - everything was delicious. They keep it to a small number of families and appropriately manage what people bring so that all parts of the meal are represented. They often spoke of returning to these pot lucks after COVID - but didn't before we moved on.
You may think you have good intentions but this is where intentions meet reality and this kind of attitude of demanding equity where it’s not necessary is going to kill these events. There are other ways you can help your school. Hosting events in your home may not be one of them and that’s perfectly ok. We don’t need everybody to do everything.
Anonymous wrote:First, I love that schools, especially many of the primarily white private schools in the area, have these. I have a question though. We're at a new school that has a family DEIB (diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging) event coming up. The communications for the event say that it is open to all school families and it's about making sure all families are in a welcoming environment. In reality, what do these events look like? As a white family should we skip as it's not our place, or are they truly about bringing the entire school together? Since we're still so new, I'm trying to attend as many events as our schedule will allow. However, I do not want to step outside of my lane and intrude on anyone's safe space.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DEI director here. If the school says the event is open to all, believe them. If it was for a specific community within the school, they would say so.
I fully support DEI but the equity part I think can be unrealistic at times and maybe not fair as once we all start comparing our advantages and disadvantages it can get messy.
For example, school needs parents to pay and host an event for all parents in a grade. One parent wants to be listed as a host on the invitation but they express they can not pay what the others are paying. Thoughts on this? I think it is unfair and all should pay equally or just not be listed as a host. Thoughts?
Not the PP - but from what I've seen at our (3) schools - the school doesn't structure events where a "subset of parents" pay to host a school sanctioned event and then put their names on the invitation.
Examples: Families offer to use their home to host an event but the school pays for it. Families offer to host a pot-luck event - where all participating families bring food. Or, the school hosts the event at school. In cases where there are student events (trips) that parents are paying a fee, the school provides support for students receiving aid.
The point being - there is genuine thought put into "how" the school operates and how parent/student events are run so that they are practicing the "equitable" part of DEI
That is not real life and you are setting these kids up for a big disappointment when they get into the real world. I support DEI but some of it gets taken too far. If parents want a nice party (and many do) they are going to have it. The other option that I have seen is when schools try to dictate too much those parents STILL have their parties but then what happens is they do not invite all. So the former option is better in my opinion.
Parents can still have a nice party.....I never said they don't. Some are all inclusive, some are not. That's life. We can all choose how we behave and how inclusive/exclusive we are.
I said that there our schools don't use parents to host school sanctioned events where they rely on few parents to pony up....and then end up with one of those co-parents backing out financially. One school used to do this and then moved to only having parties that the school funded. It would be a single family (not groups of parents) hosting. Obviously, those parents could spend additional money of their own....but there's no issue of "the x family was listed here and paid nothing" (which honestly all sounds like petty behavior anyway)
If you choose to work in a group to host a party (in any scenario) - you just have to deal with whatever your group members throw at you. If you don't like it, don't work with that person again. If you want to leave someone out of your hosting group who can donate their time but not money - that's your choice to make. (I personally would let them help if they are a good team member who is genuinely contributing in other ways).
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DEI director here. If the school says the event is open to all, believe them. If it was for a specific community within the school, they would say so.
I fully support DEI but the equity part I think can be unrealistic at times and maybe not fair as once we all start comparing our advantages and disadvantages it can get messy.
For example, school needs parents to pay and host an event for all parents in a grade. One parent wants to be listed as a host on the invitation but they express they can not pay what the others are paying. Thoughts on this? I think it is unfair and all should pay equally or just not be listed as a host. Thoughts?
Not the PP - but from what I've seen at our (3) schools - the school doesn't structure events where a "subset of parents" pay to host a school sanctioned event and then put their names on the invitation.
Examples: Families offer to use their home to host an event but the school pays for it. Families offer to host a pot-luck event - where all participating families bring food. Or, the school hosts the event at school. In cases where there are student events (trips) that parents are paying a fee, the school provides support for students receiving aid.
Well your school is different. At our schools it is common for parents to host the entire grade of parents and pay for the party. Very common. It is a nice gesture. School could never afford that and potlucks are crappy food and a mess for the hosts to deal with in my experience.
Of course all schools are different and there was no judgement in my examples - it was purely an explanation of how our schools have thought though DEI and choose how to handle financial disparity. (which - obviously is still apparent when you go to the hosts' home - even if the school is footing the bill). And yes, the host obviously is still being generous and has to deal with the mess and ready the house for hosting (whether they pay or the school pays and whether there is a pot luck or not).
We only went to one pot luck (a long honored and beloved tradition at that school pre-COVID) - everything was delicious. They keep it to a small number of families and appropriately manage what people bring so that all parts of the meal are represented. They often spoke of returning to these pot lucks after COVID - but didn't before we moved on.
You may think you have good intentions but this is where intentions meet reality and this kind of attitude of demanding equity where it’s not necessary is going to kill these events. There are other ways you can help your school. Hosting events in your home may not be one of them and that’s perfectly ok. We don’t need everybody to do everything.
DP. Perfectly said. They will end up ruining these events for all. I say "all" because the events will still happen but what happens is they won't invite all anymore. They will make it a private non school event instead where they can do what they wanted originally without any oversight. Trust me seen it happen.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DEI director here. If the school says the event is open to all, believe them. If it was for a specific community within the school, they would say so.
I fully support DEI but the equity part I think can be unrealistic at times and maybe not fair as once we all start comparing our advantages and disadvantages it can get messy.
For example, school needs parents to pay and host an event for all parents in a grade. One parent wants to be listed as a host on the invitation but they express they can not pay what the others are paying. Thoughts on this? I think it is unfair and all should pay equally or just not be listed as a host. Thoughts?
Not the PP - but from what I've seen at our (3) schools - the school doesn't structure events where a "subset of parents" pay to host a school sanctioned event and then put their names on the invitation.
Examples: Families offer to use their home to host an event but the school pays for it. Families offer to host a pot-luck event - where all participating families bring food. Or, the school hosts the event at school. In cases where there are student events (trips) that parents are paying a fee, the school provides support for students receiving aid.
The point being - there is genuine thought put into "how" the school operates and how parent/student events are run so that they are practicing the "equitable" part of DEI
That is not real life and you are setting these kids up for a big disappointment when they get into the real world. I support DEI but some of it gets taken too far. If parents want a nice party (and many do) they are going to have it. The other option that I have seen is when schools try to dictate too much those parents STILL have their parties but then what happens is they do not invite all. So the former option is better in my opinion.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DEI director here. If the school says the event is open to all, believe them. If it was for a specific community within the school, they would say so.
I fully support DEI but the equity part I think can be unrealistic at times and maybe not fair as once we all start comparing our advantages and disadvantages it can get messy.
For example, school needs parents to pay and host an event for all parents in a grade. One parent wants to be listed as a host on the invitation but they express they can not pay what the others are paying. Thoughts on this? I think it is unfair and all should pay equally or just not be listed as a host. Thoughts?
Not the PP - but from what I've seen at our (3) schools - the school doesn't structure events where a "subset of parents" pay to host a school sanctioned event and then put their names on the invitation.
Examples: Families offer to use their home to host an event but the school pays for it. Families offer to host a pot-luck event - where all participating families bring food. Or, the school hosts the event at school. In cases where there are student events (trips) that parents are paying a fee, the school provides support for students receiving aid.
Well your school is different. At our schools it is common for parents to host the entire grade of parents and pay for the party. Very common. It is a nice gesture. School could never afford that and potlucks are crappy food and a mess for the hosts to deal with in my experience.
Of course all schools are different and there was no judgement in my examples - it was purely an explanation of how our schools have thought though DEI and choose how to handle financial disparity. (which - obviously is still apparent when you go to the hosts' home - even if the school is footing the bill). And yes, the host obviously is still being generous and has to deal with the mess and ready the house for hosting (whether they pay or the school pays and whether there is a pot luck or not).
We only went to one pot luck (a long honored and beloved tradition at that school pre-COVID) - everything was delicious. They keep it to a small number of families and appropriately manage what people bring so that all parts of the meal are represented. They often spoke of returning to these pot lucks after COVID - but didn't before we moved on.
You may think you have good intentions but this is where intentions meet reality and this kind of attitude of demanding equity where it’s not necessary is going to kill these events. There are other ways you can help your school. Hosting events in your home may not be one of them and that’s perfectly ok. We don’t need everybody to do everything.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DEI director here. If the school says the event is open to all, believe them. If it was for a specific community within the school, they would say so.
I fully support DEI but the equity part I think can be unrealistic at times and maybe not fair as once we all start comparing our advantages and disadvantages it can get messy.
For example, school needs parents to pay and host an event for all parents in a grade. One parent wants to be listed as a host on the invitation but they express they can not pay what the others are paying. Thoughts on this? I think it is unfair and all should pay equally or just not be listed as a host. Thoughts?
Not the PP - but from what I've seen at our (3) schools - the school doesn't structure events where a "subset of parents" pay to host a school sanctioned event and then put their names on the invitation.
Examples: Families offer to use their home to host an event but the school pays for it. Families offer to host a pot-luck event - where all participating families bring food. Or, the school hosts the event at school. In cases where there are student events (trips) that parents are paying a fee, the school provides support for students receiving aid.
Well your school is different. At our schools it is common for parents to host the entire grade of parents and pay for the party. Very common. It is a nice gesture. School could never afford that and potlucks are crappy food and a mess for the hosts to deal with in my experience.
Of course all schools are different and there was no judgement in my examples - it was purely an explanation of how our schools have thought though DEI and choose how to handle financial disparity. (which - obviously is still apparent when you go to the hosts' home - even if the school is footing the bill). And yes, the host obviously is still being generous and has to deal with the mess and ready the house for hosting (whether they pay or the school pays and whether there is a pot luck or not).
We only went to one pot luck (a long honored and beloved tradition at that school pre-COVID) - everything was delicious. They keep it to a small number of families and appropriately manage what people bring so that all parts of the meal are represented. They often spoke of returning to these pot lucks after COVID - but didn't before we moved on.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DEI director here. If the school says the event is open to all, believe them. If it was for a specific community within the school, they would say so.
I fully support DEI but the equity part I think can be unrealistic at times and maybe not fair as once we all start comparing our advantages and disadvantages it can get messy.
For example, school needs parents to pay and host an event for all parents in a grade. One parent wants to be listed as a host on the invitation but they express they can not pay what the others are paying. Thoughts on this? I think it is unfair and all should pay equally or just not be listed as a host. Thoughts?
Not the PP - but from what I've seen at our (3) schools - the school doesn't structure events where a "subset of parents" pay to host a school sanctioned event and then put their names on the invitation.
Examples: Families offer to use their home to host an event but the school pays for it. Families offer to host a pot-luck event - where all participating families bring food. Or, the school hosts the event at school. In cases where there are student events (trips) that parents are paying a fee, the school provides support for students receiving aid.
Well your school is different. At our schools it is common for parents to host the entire grade of parents and pay for the party. Very common. It is a nice gesture. School could never afford that and potlucks are crappy food and a mess for the hosts to deal with in my experience.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DEI director here. If the school says the event is open to all, believe them. If it was for a specific community within the school, they would say so.
I fully support DEI but the equity part I think can be unrealistic at times and maybe not fair as once we all start comparing our advantages and disadvantages it can get messy.
For example, school needs parents to pay and host an event for all parents in a grade. One parent wants to be listed as a host on the invitation but they express they can not pay what the others are paying. Thoughts on this? I think it is unfair and all should pay equally or just not be listed as a host. Thoughts?
Not the PP - but from what I've seen at our (3) schools - the school doesn't structure events where a "subset of parents" pay to host a school sanctioned event and then put their names on the invitation.
Examples: Families offer to use their home to host an event but the school pays for it. Families offer to host a pot-luck event - where all participating families bring food. Or, the school hosts the event at school. In cases where there are student events (trips) that parents are paying a fee, the school provides support for students receiving aid.
DP - but I have absolutely seen school events where the parents pay for it as a donation to the school. Such as a happy hour for new parents, a kickoff to a fundraiser, or a get together in someone’s home just for a specific grade as PP suggests. The events are never paid for by the school. Another new one is parents are buying tickets to events at people’s homes the proceeds go to benefit the school but the hosts pay for the food, drink, and entertainment for the event/party. It would be weird to have 4 families agree to host and one to back out and say they weren’t going to chip in to pay but wanted credit on the invite. I would think the other families would just drop them.
I have hosted grade events with co-hosts. We all equally divided costs. The school gave us $0.
Sure - if your school wants to operate that way. But then you run into the scenario you mentioned... It do think it is awkward to say you will co-host and then not chip in and still want to be on the list. But...this scenario also leaves out a parent who can donate their time but not financially. I'm certain many many schools still operate this way with no regard to the equity of it.
The only time I have heard of parents buying tickets os for a fund raiser auction type event.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DEI director here. If the school says the event is open to all, believe them. If it was for a specific community within the school, they would say so.
I fully support DEI but the equity part I think can be unrealistic at times and maybe not fair as once we all start comparing our advantages and disadvantages it can get messy.
For example, school needs parents to pay and host an event for all parents in a grade. One parent wants to be listed as a host on the invitation but they express they can not pay what the others are paying. Thoughts on this? I think it is unfair and all should pay equally or just not be listed as a host. Thoughts?
Not the PP - but from what I've seen at our (3) schools - the school doesn't structure events where a "subset of parents" pay to host a school sanctioned event and then put their names on the invitation.
Examples: Families offer to use their home to host an event but the school pays for it. Families offer to host a pot-luck event - where all participating families bring food. Or, the school hosts the event at school. In cases where there are student events (trips) that parents are paying a fee, the school provides support for students receiving aid.
DP - but I have absolutely seen school events where the parents pay for it as a donation to the school. Such as a happy hour for new parents, a kickoff to a fundraiser, or a get together in someone’s home just for a specific grade as PP suggests. The events are never paid for by the school. Another new one is parents are buying tickets to events at people’s homes the proceeds go to benefit the school but the hosts pay for the food, drink, and entertainment for the event/party. It would be weird to have 4 families agree to host and one to back out and say they weren’t going to chip in to pay but wanted credit on the invite. I would think the other families would just drop them.
I have hosted grade events with co-hosts. We all equally divided costs. The school gave us $0.
Sure - if your school wants to operate that way. But then you run into the scenario you mentioned... It do think it is awkward to say you will co-host and then not chip in and still want to be on the list. But...this scenario also leaves out a parent who can donate their time but not financially. I'm certain many many schools still operate this way with no regard to the equity of it.
The only time I have heard of parents buying tickets os for a fund raiser auction type event.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DEI director here. If the school says the event is open to all, believe them. If it was for a specific community within the school, they would say so.
I fully support DEI but the equity part I think can be unrealistic at times and maybe not fair as once we all start comparing our advantages and disadvantages it can get messy.
For example, school needs parents to pay and host an event for all parents in a grade. One parent wants to be listed as a host on the invitation but they express they can not pay what the others are paying. Thoughts on this? I think it is unfair and all should pay equally or just not be listed as a host. Thoughts?
Not the PP - but from what I've seen at our (3) schools - the school doesn't structure events where a "subset of parents" pay to host a school sanctioned event and then put their names on the invitation.
Examples: Families offer to use their home to host an event but the school pays for it. Families offer to host a pot-luck event - where all participating families bring food. Or, the school hosts the event at school. In cases where there are student events (trips) that parents are paying a fee, the school provides support for students receiving aid.
DP - but I have absolutely seen school events where the parents pay for it as a donation to the school. Such as a happy hour for new parents, a kickoff to a fundraiser, or a get together in someone’s home just for a specific grade as PP suggests. The events are never paid for by the school. Another new one is parents are buying tickets to events at people’s homes the proceeds go to benefit the school but the hosts pay for the food, drink, and entertainment for the event/party. It would be weird to have 4 families agree to host and one to back out and say they weren’t going to chip in to pay but wanted credit on the invite. I would think the other families would just drop them.
I have hosted grade events with co-hosts. We all equally divided costs. The school gave us $0.
Sure - if your school wants to operate that way. But then you run into the scenario you mentioned... It do think it is awkward to say you will co-host and then not chip in and still want to be on the list. But...this scenario also leaves out a parent who can donate their time but not financially. I'm certain many many schools still operate this way with no regard to the equity of it.
The only time I have heard of parents buying tickets os for a fund raiser auction type event.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please attend. I think there's often a misconception that the diversity events are for everyone minus white families.
+1 as a POC, I thought these events are FOR white people to help them get a little bit of understanding on what we go through in this country! I already know.
So now I'm really confused.
Are you saying that these DEI events are basically whine sessions, where white people are expected to listen to what you, a POC who happens to have kids at an elite DC private school, "go through in this country?" Is that what I'm missing by not attending?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DEI director here. If the school says the event is open to all, believe them. If it was for a specific community within the school, they would say so.
I fully support DEI but the equity part I think can be unrealistic at times and maybe not fair as once we all start comparing our advantages and disadvantages it can get messy.
For example, school needs parents to pay and host an event for all parents in a grade. One parent wants to be listed as a host on the invitation but they express they can not pay what the others are paying. Thoughts on this? I think it is unfair and all should pay equally or just not be listed as a host. Thoughts?
Not the PP - but from what I've seen at our (3) schools - the school doesn't structure events where a "subset of parents" pay to host a school sanctioned event and then put their names on the invitation.
Examples: Families offer to use their home to host an event but the school pays for it. Families offer to host a pot-luck event - where all participating families bring food. Or, the school hosts the event at school. In cases where there are student events (trips) that parents are paying a fee, the school provides support for students receiving aid.
The point being - there is genuine thought put into "how" the school operates and how parent/student events are run so that they are practicing the "equitable" part of DEI
In our experience when they start meddling like this the fun events and parties start to dwindle or at least the ones where all are invited because those parents hosting them get tired of trying to meet these requirements. Sooooo what has happened is they still have their fun fancy parties and what happens is many are just left out of them so that is not good either. I dont blame them for not wanting to deal with all of these requirements etc... People are busy and do not have time or patience especially when they are BEING inclusive already by inviting all.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DEI director here. If the school says the event is open to all, believe them. If it was for a specific community within the school, they would say so.
I fully support DEI but the equity part I think can be unrealistic at times and maybe not fair as once we all start comparing our advantages and disadvantages it can get messy.
For example, school needs parents to pay and host an event for all parents in a grade. One parent wants to be listed as a host on the invitation but they express they can not pay what the others are paying. Thoughts on this? I think it is unfair and all should pay equally or just not be listed as a host. Thoughts?
Not the PP - but from what I've seen at our (3) schools - the school doesn't structure events where a "subset of parents" pay to host a school sanctioned event and then put their names on the invitation.
Examples: Families offer to use their home to host an event but the school pays for it. Families offer to host a pot-luck event - where all participating families bring food. Or, the school hosts the event at school. In cases where there are student events (trips) that parents are paying a fee, the school provides support for students receiving aid.
DP - but I have absolutely seen school events where the parents pay for it as a donation to the school. Such as a happy hour for new parents, a kickoff to a fundraiser, or a get together in someone’s home just for a specific grade as PP suggests. The events are never paid for by the school. Another new one is parents are buying tickets to events at people’s homes the proceeds go to benefit the school but the hosts pay for the food, drink, and entertainment for the event/party. It would be weird to have 4 families agree to host and one to back out and say they weren’t going to chip in to pay but wanted credit on the invite. I would think the other families would just drop them.
I have hosted grade events with co-hosts. We all equally divided costs. The school gave us $0.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DEI director here. If the school says the event is open to all, believe them. If it was for a specific community within the school, they would say so.
I fully support DEI but the equity part I think can be unrealistic at times and maybe not fair as once we all start comparing our advantages and disadvantages it can get messy.
For example, school needs parents to pay and host an event for all parents in a grade. One parent wants to be listed as a host on the invitation but they express they can not pay what the others are paying. Thoughts on this? I think it is unfair and all should pay equally or just not be listed as a host. Thoughts?
Not the PP - but from what I've seen at our (3) schools - the school doesn't structure events where a "subset of parents" pay to host a school sanctioned event and then put their names on the invitation.
Examples: Families offer to use their home to host an event but the school pays for it. Families offer to host a pot-luck event - where all participating families bring food. Or, the school hosts the event at school. In cases where there are student events (trips) that parents are paying a fee, the school provides support for students receiving aid.
The point being - there is genuine thought put into "how" the school operates and how parent/student events are run so that they are practicing the "equitable" part of DEI