If nothing is reported, the assumption is that the student either did not take the test (not good) or has 3 or lower (not good either). I would report 4s and if there is one or two 5s in the mix, then all looks great.

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of students take AP exams and don’t take the AP class. Colleges would never know the student took the exam unless the student reported it.

This. Very few kids in DD’s private school take AP exams because there are honors classes only, which are not aligned with AP exams.

That is completely different. The OP I believe is talking about actual AP classes. Not honors or advanced classes at a private that doesn’t offer APs.

PP again. My kid took 4 APs exams without taking AP classes (because their private school doesn’t offer them). In such cases, colleges have no way of knowing what AP exams the student had taken unless self reported.

Same

My kid had at least one 4 and submitted and in at Northwestern. Funny is that it was in callc ab—took bc senior year and got the 5 on the harder test. Took so many tests junior year think there was a major burnout factor.

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of students take AP exams and don’t take the AP class. Colleges would never know the student took the exam unless the student reported it.

This. Very few kids in DD’s private school take AP exams because there are honors classes only, which are not aligned with AP exams.

That is completely different. The OP I believe is talking about actual AP classes. Not honors or advanced classes at a private that doesn’t offer APs.

PP again. My kid took 4 APs exams without taking AP classes (because their private school doesn’t offer them). In such cases, colleges have no way of knowing what AP exams the student had taken unless self reported.

yeah but that's not the norm and also not particularly helpful here.

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of students take AP exams and don’t take the AP class. Colleges would never know the student took the exam unless the student reported it.

In cases where the transcript says the student took AP * and no score is submitted, is that an issue?

it's not great for top schools because there are plenty of students who have taken 7 AP classes and submit 7 AP scores of 5.

All things being equal on the GPA and test score front, a college is going to take this kid over a kid who took 7 AP classes and submitted 5 scores, especially if the missing scores are in a discipline they want to study. I.e. if they are applying for engineering and the Calc BC or physics C score is missing then that can be a strike against them. The readers are looking for ways to differentiate between a ton of highly qualified (and otherwise equally qualified) kids.

I have a friend who was a long term reader at at top10 school and I asked her all about the AP thing as my kid has imperfect AP scores.

Thanks. Did your friend have an opinion on whether it's better to submit a four or nothing? Again, assuming the AP class is on the transcript.

Anonymous wrote:AP scores are not considered for admission. The grade on the class > optional AP test score on one day. an applicant can input any AP score. Why not put all 5’s!? There is no validation process. Unlike When you self report SAT scores, for example, and the school admits you based on them; your acceptance is contingent upon the school actually receiving the official scores as you reported.

AP scores matter, after admission, if your kid wants to get credit for them. A lot of top schools don’t even give advance placement or class credit for scores, so even after being admitted you would never submit the official ones.

Totally untrue and if you lied on the Common App on such a verifiable thing, your admission would be revoked.

My DD got into a few T20s with several 4's. DC also was salutatorian and got a 35 on the ACT. Her school offered several APs but few teachers really focused on actual test prep.

I think AP scores become important if it's harder to determine the relative value of the student's GPA/grades (because the student attends a lesser known high school) or where an applicant is test optional or had a lower SAT/ACT score. For example, if an applicant had a great GPA but a 31 ACT, I think most T20s would be inclined overlook the lower ACT score if the applicant submitted ten 5's on AP exams. But if the applicant already has a great GPA and SAT/ACT scores, AP results aren't likely to move the needle that much.

Anyhow, of all the conundrums in the application process, I don't think this one is difficult or even nuanced: Submit all 4s and 5s.

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of students take AP exams and don’t take the AP class. Colleges would never know the student took the exam unless the student reported it.

This. Very few kids in DD’s private school take AP exams because there are honors classes only, which are not aligned with AP exams.

That is completely different. The OP I believe is talking about actual AP classes. Not honors or advanced classes at a private that doesn’t offer APs.

PP again. My kid took 4 APs exams without taking AP classes (because their private school doesn’t offer them). In such cases, colleges have no way of knowing what AP exams the student had taken unless self reported.

RIGHT. But we're not talking about this. Are you dense?

Why do you keep invading this thread with this info that has no relevance to the topic at hand??

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of students take AP exams and don’t take the AP class. Colleges would never know the student took the exam unless the student reported it.

This. Very few kids in DD’s private school take AP exams because there are honors classes only, which are not aligned with AP exams.

That is completely different. The OP I believe is talking about actual AP classes. Not honors or advanced classes at a private that doesn’t offer APs.

PP again. My kid took 4 APs exams without taking AP classes (because their private school doesn’t offer them). In such cases, colleges have no way of knowing what AP exams the student had taken unless self reported.

Anonymous wrote:ok thanks, actually yale is saying "if reportng AP scores report all", does this mean every time you took it or just all AP scores for AP classes taken?
not that my kid is getting into Yale

you can always call and ask. their new test required policy = any kind of tests, SAT or ACT or AP. So a lot of people will call and ask about what they need for the AP

ok thanks, actually yale is saying "if reportng AP scores report all", does this mean every time you took it or just all AP scores for AP classes taken?
not that my kid is getting into Yale

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Anonymous wrote:Kid wants to retake a 4. It’s his life.

If he gets a 5 on retake and reports the 5, is it a big problem if AP later delivers the report that shows both 4 and 5?

no, why would this be a problem? He got a 5. Just don't report a 5 until he's actually received a 5.

yeah, you can always cancel the 4 if 5 is actually gotten, what AP test? My kid will be retaking three 4s LOL

My question is for school like Georgetown that say report all APs taken do you have to let them know about even cancelled ones?

To clarify this, Georgetown does not say to report all APs taken. However, Georgetown does like to see AP scores, and in order to have your AP scores considered, you must send an official AP score report from College Board, which includes all the AP scores. Georgetown does not have an option to self-report AP scores (or any other scores) in its unique application.

I don't know whether an official AP score report mentions the existence of cancelled scores. I imagine not, but it may be worth confirming with College Board before trying to cancel a score.

Personally, I'd report the exams with 4s to Georgetown and let it be.