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Anonymous wrote:Imagine sending your child to school and that's the last time you ever see them.

The news reported a text to a mother from a 16 year old student huddled with her classmates during the shooting that said, "I know I have not been a perfect daughter. I love you. I'm sorry."

This is heartbreaking. I hope we learn she survived and is physically uninjured. The psychological effects will be life long.

Didn’t Youngkin just ban cell phones in schools so Virginia parents wouldn’t even have a “goodbye?”

Do you even hear yourself? You’re mad because kids might not have their cell phone in case somebody comes into shoot them because it’s so freaking common place. think about that.

A 14 year old with a gun necessarily means that an adult or several adults failed in some way. Those adults need to be punished in proportion to the damage caused by their failures.

Showing the carnage, while grotesque, may just be the only way to shock people into realizing how insane this all is. I mean you can imagine holes in 6 year olds but if we all saw them, my god. I just can't believe we all would allow such things to continue? Foreign countries change their laws because they are mortified by the violence. It's just not shocking enough for Americans I guess?

It's unbelievable that this 14 yr old kid shot and killed 4 people. 14 years old in school. OMG.

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing will ever be accomplished in terms of gun control, mental health care etc, IMO.

Why are schools not secure?? I think that is what should realistically be focused on. I don’t hear about many mass shootings at courthouses, airports or sports stadiums. Metal detectors for all adults and bags (and students above a certain age), armed officer at every school K-12, fortifying the perimeter and entry points, and improved technology (so much that can be done these days). IMO this is where the focus should be…if we are being realistic

So I have to wait around, get searched, pay for a bunch of people to play security theater just so right-wingers can cuddle up with their emotional security guns? That's messed up.

Yep. Once again: even with all of the mass shootings, how much progress has been made with gun control?! How much progress will be made in the near future? The most realistic guess is: none. None at all.

Realistically, the choice is increased security measures (whether that inconveniences you or not) OR the shootings continue with no reductions.

Change is going to come, and when it does, there will be a flood of changes all at once. I don't know when, but the day is coming.

I have to believe almost any minor involved in shootings at school had access to gun brought by an adult usually a parent. So - with so many guns already owned by people not sure it's possible to actually limit arms. Some for sure but not most.

The other factor is that there are SO many hubs in the street already and I do not see the day post Sandy Hook limits will ever be established to limit 2nd amendment rights in this country. Best case scenario is tighter background checks but that's not always going to catch the potential tragedies. A better incentive is training in gun storage and shooting. I think we need to also tie the threat of prosecution to parents whose kids may be offenders using their weapons.

I think ultimately the way to prevent these tragedies is developing communities that are aware, look out for one another and hopefully are lucky enough to find a warning before these tragedies happen. There's not a lot of realistic options to prevent them from happening insofar as anti gun advocacy although of course I wish that could magically curb these kinds of events.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nothing will ever be accomplished in terms of gun control, mental health care etc, IMO.

Why are schools not secure?? I think that is what should realistically be focused on. I don’t hear about many mass shootings at courthouses, airports or sports stadiums. Metal detectors for all adults and bags (and students above a certain age), armed officer at every school K-12, fortifying the perimeter and entry points, and improved technology (so much that can be done these days). IMO this is where the focus should be…if we are being realistic

So I have to wait around, get searched, pay for a bunch of people to play security theater just so right-wingers can cuddle up with their emotional security guns? That's messed up.

Yep. Once again: even with all of the mass shootings, how much progress has been made with gun control?! How much progress will be made in the near future? The most realistic guess is: none. None at all.

Realistically, the choice is increased security measures (whether that inconveniences you or not) OR the shootings continue with no reductions.

Or we run hundreds of articles and op ed pieces and shine a big f***ing spotlight on the problem - obstructionist Republicans who would rather let kids die than vote "yes" on firearm regulations. Pick a Republican member of Congress who votes "no" and run 192 articles in two weeks (we know the New York Times can do this) highlighting the a**hole's voting record, money he's received from the gun lobby, and the dead kids he doesn't want to help. Maybe do side stories on the weird gun fetishists with dozens of rifles and handguns. Get real up close and personal with the kind of sketchy weirdos who sell firearm accessories along with Nazi regalia at flea markets.

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing will ever be accomplished in terms of gun control, mental health care etc, IMO.

Why are schools not secure?? I think that is what should realistically be focused on. I don’t hear about many mass shootings at courthouses, airports or sports stadiums. Metal detectors for all adults and bags (and students above a certain age), armed officer at every school K-12, fortifying the perimeter and entry points, and improved technology (so much that can be done these days). IMO this is where the focus should be…if we are being realistic

So I have to wait around, get searched, pay for a bunch of people to play security theater just so right-wingers can cuddle up with their emotional security guns? That's messed up.

Yep. Once again: even with all of the mass shootings, how much progress has been made with gun control?! How much progress will be made in the near future? The most realistic guess is: none. None at all.

Realistically, the choice is increased security measures (whether that inconveniences you or not) OR the shootings continue with no reductions.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nothing will ever be accomplished in terms of gun control, mental health care etc, IMO.

Why are schools not secure?? I think that is what should realistically be focused on. I don’t hear about many mass shootings at courthouses, airports or sports stadiums. Metal detectors for all adults and bags (and students above a certain age), armed officer at every school K-12, fortifying the perimeter and entry points, and improved technology (so much that can be done these days). IMO this is where the focus should be…if we are being realistic

How do you know there was no security? Still if you want to play this game let’s play it. Every time I get in a security line at the airport, government building or sport stadium I know no one line has been screened. Anyone around me can have a bomb, a hand gun and or an assault rifle. The security line becomes the easiest target.

The current strategy of “let’s do nothing- just wait patiently until all guns are banned” does not appear to be working out very well. Until such a thing occurs, increases in security procedures need to be the focus unless we want this to keep happening

Let's start with some stronger gun regulations. It doesn't have to be perfect. Mitigating harm is still good even if it isn't eliminating harm. Lets get conservatives to at least admit that guns are dangerous, cause harm, and some regulations make sense.

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing will ever be accomplished in terms of gun control, mental health care etc, IMO.

Why are schools not secure?? I think that is what should realistically be focused on. I don’t hear about many mass shootings at courthouses, airports or sports stadiums. Metal detectors for all adults and bags (and students above a certain age), armed officer at every school K-12, fortifying the perimeter and entry points, and improved technology (so much that can be done these days). IMO this is where the focus should be…if we are being realistic

Secure? Is not "Georgia a good guy with a gun" security state? The more guns the more secure.

Random local residents (whether armed or not) are not going to be helpful in any type of school shooting situation.

Certainly a hundred armed cops in texas didn't do squat.

Anonymous wrote:Nothing will ever be accomplished in terms of gun control, mental health care etc, IMO.

Why are schools not secure?? I think that is what should realistically be focused on. I don’t hear about many mass shootings at courthouses, airports or sports stadiums. Metal detectors for all adults and bags (and students above a certain age), armed officer at every school K-12, fortifying the perimeter and entry points, and improved technology (so much that can be done these days). IMO this is where the focus should be…if we are being realistic

So I have to wait around, get searched, pay for a bunch of people to play security theater just so right-wingers can cuddle up with their emotional security guns? That's messed up.

Epidemic of mental illness.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Imagine sending your child to school and that's the last time you ever see them.

The news reported a text to a mother from a 16 year old student huddled with her classmates during the shooting that said, "I know I have not been a perfect daughter. I love you. I'm sorry."

And schools are requiring students to lock up their phones all day.

Yes we can lock phones up but not the weapons. Thanks republicans

Kids with phones are decadent. Kids with guns are Real Americans. Or something.

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine sending your child to school and that's the last time you ever see them.

The news reported a text to a mother from a 16 year old student huddled with her classmates during the shooting that said, "I know I have not been a perfect daughter. I love you. I'm sorry."

This is heartbreaking. I hope we learn she survived and is physically uninjured. The psychological effects will be life long.

Didn’t Youngkin just ban cell phones in schools so Virginia parents wouldn’t even have a “goodbye?”

That is what you are focused on- a policy that actually support student learning and provides them so privacy at school? Cell phones are not the issue in this case. Focus on the real issues here.

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing will ever be accomplished in terms of gun control, mental health care etc, IMO.

Why are schools not secure?? I think that is what should realistically be focused on. I don’t hear about many mass shootings at courthouses, airports or sports stadiums. Metal detectors for all adults and bags (and students above a certain age), armed officer at every school K-12, fortifying the perimeter and entry points, and improved technology (so much that can be done these days). IMO this is where the focus should be…if we are being realistic

Secure? Is not "Georgia a good guy with a gun" security state? The more guns the more secure.

Random local residents (whether armed or not) are not going to be helpful in any type of school shooting situation.