Anonymous
Post 09/04/2024 13:15     Subject: Car thefts by 12 yo. Released to parents
Anonymous wrote:The kid stole another car Tuesday night in Silver Spring after he had been released to the custody of his parents. At what point is enough enough here?

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/12-year-old-accused-maryland-car-dealership-break-ins-released-parents-strikes-again-police?taid=66d8797ab30c2e000154674c&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=twitter


Kids deserves a community award for pointing out the lax security in Silver Spring. A 12 year old shouldn't be able to break into a dealership.
Anonymous
Post 09/04/2024 12:13     Subject: Car thefts by 12 yo. Released to parents
The kid stole another car Tuesday night in Silver Spring after he had been released to the custody of his parents. At what point is enough enough here?

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/12-year-old-accused-maryland-car-dealership-break-ins-released-parents-strikes-again-police?taid=66d8797ab30c2e000154674c&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=twitter
Anonymous
Post 09/02/2024 17:47     Subject: Car thefts by 12 yo. Released to parents
Anonymous wrote:We need to go back to the Code of Hammurabi. I can guarantee you all this retail and car theft crap would stop real quick if they simply lopped off the hands of anyone caught stealing. The punishment would make it not worth it to commit those kinds of crimes. It’s amazing how we haven’t learned anything when humans figured out the solution 3,000 years ago. That’s the only way humans with animalistic instincts will ever be deterred.


It has to be the right hand because that is the hand in Hammurabi's time used to dip into the common bowl of food. You could not use your left hand because that was what you used to wipe the product of eating from your anus. Lopping off the right hand effectively caused the person to die of starvation.
Anonymous
Post 09/02/2024 17:45     Subject: Car thefts by 12 yo. Released to parents
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t even know where to post this, but I’ll start here since this has to do with Montgomery county law.

A 12 year old has been stealing cars from Montgomery County dealerships. They have him on video and he was arrested but since he is only 12 the police are forced to return to release him to his parents. He’s done it again and again and again.

Part of me understands the purpose of this law, but the threshold for releasing 12 children back to parents might need to be lower.

https://x.com/dcnewslive/status/1828861283753431145?s=46&t=R3AX3c486LFdeZpFtkN_eA


A 12 yo does not belong in juvie


He will soon move on to rape. Why not?

- there are no consequences for rape or other serious crimes in DC or MoCo. Not for a “juvenile.”


If the kid is making enough money from stealing cars and parts, he won't have to rape. The girls will be standing in line for some of that and money too.
Anonymous
Post 09/02/2024 10:00     Subject: Car thefts by 12 yo. Released to parents
We need to go back to the Code of Hammurabi. I can guarantee you all this retail and car theft crap would stop real quick if they simply lopped off the hands of anyone caught stealing. The punishment would make it not worth it to commit those kinds of crimes. It’s amazing how we haven’t learned anything when humans figured out the solution 3,000 years ago. That’s the only way humans with animalistic instincts will ever be deterred.
Anonymous
Post 09/02/2024 09:40     Subject: Car thefts by 12 yo. Released to parents
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t disagree something needs to change. I also agree parents need to be held accountable. However let’s assume this is a single working mom. If she is arrested and has other younger kids what do we do with them? Foster care? Put them in the system? What do we do with kids already in foster care of living with an Aunt or Grandparent, arrest them?
If she loses her job because of incarceration then what?
It sucks all around.




There are plenty of working mothers whose kids aren’t out stealing cars repeatedly. There is something more going on at that house. And if there are other kids there, maybe they’ll be better off not being in that environment. And yes, caregivers (no matter who they are) who do nothing when their kid commits multiple crimes should be held responsible.

Let’s not let a hypothetical narrative get in the way of trying to address the problem.



I don't know the story for this mother, but some kids are just not wired correctly. You can do everything right and your kid still becomes a violent criminal. Good parenting is important, but there is no guarantee that kids turn out to be good people. For example, punishing a parent for a kid that is a sociopath will not help anything. That kids brain just doesn't work properly.
Anonymous
Post 09/02/2024 09:03     Subject: Car thefts by 12 yo. Released to parents
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t even know where to post this, but I’ll start here since this has to do with Montgomery county law.

A 12 year old has been stealing cars from Montgomery County dealerships. They have him on video and he was arrested but since he is only 12 the police are forced to return to release him to his parents. He’s done it again and again and again.

Part of me understands the purpose of this law, but the threshold for releasing 12 children back to parents might need to be lower.

https://x.com/dcnewslive/status/1828861283753431145?s=46&t=R3AX3c486LFdeZpFtkN_eA


A 12 yo does not belong in juvie


He will soon move on to rape. Why not?

- there are no consequences for rape or other serious crimes in DC or MoCo. Not for a “juvenile.”


Maybe the government could buy him a car for joyriding. That would keep him busy. Throw in a debit card for gas and munchies.
Anonymous
Post 09/02/2024 07:19     Subject: Car thefts by 12 yo. Released to parents
Anonymous wrote:I don’t disagree something needs to change. I also agree parents need to be held accountable. However let’s assume this is a single working mom. If she is arrested and has other younger kids what do we do with them? Foster care? Put them in the system? What do we do with kids already in foster care of living with an Aunt or Grandparent, arrest them?
If she loses her job because of incarceration then what?
It sucks all around.




There are plenty of working mothers whose kids aren’t out stealing cars repeatedly. There is something more going on at that house. And if there are other kids there, maybe they’ll be better off not being in that environment. And yes, caregivers (no matter who they are) who do nothing when their kid commits multiple crimes should be held responsible.

Let’s not let a hypothetical narrative get in the way of trying to address the problem.
Anonymous
Post 09/02/2024 06:53     Subject: Car thefts by 12 yo. Released to parents
I don’t disagree something needs to change. I also agree parents need to be held accountable. However let’s assume this is a single working mom. If she is arrested and has other younger kids what do we do with them? Foster care? Put them in the system? What do we do with kids already in foster care of living with an Aunt or Grandparent, arrest them?
If she loses her job because of incarceration then what?
It sucks all around.


Anonymous
Post 09/02/2024 05:32     Subject: Car thefts by 12 yo. Released to parents
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t even know where to post this, but I’ll start here since this has to do with Montgomery county law.

A 12 year old has been stealing cars from Montgomery County dealerships. They have him on video and he was arrested but since he is only 12 the police are forced to return to release him to his parents. He’s done it again and again and again.

Part of me understands the purpose of this law, but the threshold for releasing 12 children back to parents might need to be lower.

https://x.com/dcnewslive/status/1828861283753431145?s=46&t=R3AX3c486LFdeZpFtkN_eA


A 12 yo does not belong in juvie


Sometimes it's the only way to connect kids to services. Parents aren't able, in denial, and so on. "In juvie" means what? In detention? Because the vast majority are not. In the system? Yes; that's how to get them rehabilitation. They don't have a permanent record. It's all rehabilitative. In many cases habilitative. But dag, when a 12 year old is raping his 6 year old sister, you MUST remove him from the home. And there are cases like that


+1. I'm a teacher. Some of these kids can be likable in their own ways, however they're usually hugely disruptive at school and far below grade level academically. Very little learning takes place when we're busy trying to coax them to come into the classroom or deescalating dangerous situations. Kids who are repeatedly engaging in high risk behaviors and don't have support at home need very intensive services and clinical support that are way beyond the scope of what a regular school can offer. Putting them "in the system" isn't necessarily a bad thing if it allows them to access those services.


Well said- our schools are underfunded and overcrowded. They cannot be expected to deal with kids like this. CPS/juvenile justice/etc is definitely needed here. What have local or state candidates proposed to address situations like this kid?
Anonymous
Post 09/02/2024 01:21     Subject: Car thefts by 12 yo. Released to parents
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t even know where to post this, but I’ll start here since this has to do with Montgomery county law.

A 12 year old has been stealing cars from Montgomery County dealerships. They have him on video and he was arrested but since he is only 12 the police are forced to return to release him to his parents. He’s done it again and again and again.

Part of me understands the purpose of this law, but the threshold for releasing 12 children back to parents might need to be lower.

https://x.com/dcnewslive/status/1828861283753431145?s=46&t=R3AX3c486LFdeZpFtkN_eA


A 12 yo does not belong in juvie


He will soon move on to rape. Why not?

- there are no consequences for rape or other serious crimes in DC or MoCo. Not for a “juvenile.”
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2024 11:28     Subject: Car thefts by 12 yo. Released to parents
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t even know where to post this, but I’ll start here since this has to do with Montgomery county law.

A 12 year old has been stealing cars from Montgomery County dealerships. They have him on video and he was arrested but since he is only 12 the police are forced to return to release him to his parents. He’s done it again and again and again.

Part of me understands the purpose of this law, but the threshold for releasing 12 children back to parents might need to be lower.

https://x.com/dcnewslive/status/1828861283753431145?s=46&t=R3AX3c486LFdeZpFtkN_eA


A 12 yo does not belong in juvie



A kid this brazen in an environment with no structure or boundaries is a threat to himself. It is not that reasonable people want harm to visit this kid but he is leading a life which leads to an early demise or significant physical harm. I am not sure there is a good answer here but in a facility he would stay alive.
Anonymous
Post 08/31/2024 15:52     Subject: Car thefts by 12 yo. Released to parents
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t even know where to post this, but I’ll start here since this has to do with Montgomery county law.

A 12 year old has been stealing cars from Montgomery County dealerships. They have him on video and he was arrested but since he is only 12 the police are forced to return to release him to his parents. He’s done it again and again and again.

Part of me understands the purpose of this law, but the threshold for releasing 12 children back to parents might need to be lower.

https://x.com/dcnewslive/status/1828861283753431145?s=46&t=R3AX3c486LFdeZpFtkN_eA


A 12 yo does not belong in juvie


Sometimes it's the only way to connect kids to services. Parents aren't able, in denial, and so on. "In juvie" means what? In detention? Because the vast majority are not. In the system? Yes; that's how to get them rehabilitation. They don't have a permanent record. It's all rehabilitative. In many cases habilitative. But dag, when a 12 year old is raping his 6 year old sister, you MUST remove him from the home. And there are cases like that



More kids need to be in Juvie to protect the rest of society. Some kids are just evil people and there nothing that can be done to help them. We need to stop pretending that wraparound services will help very dysfunctional children are violent and impulsive in nature.
Anonymous
Post 08/31/2024 14:34     Subject: Car thefts by 12 yo. Released to parents
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t even know where to post this, but I’ll start here since this has to do with Montgomery county law.

A 12 year old has been stealing cars from Montgomery County dealerships. They have him on video and he was arrested but since he is only 12 the police are forced to return to release him to his parents. He’s done it again and again and again.

Part of me understands the purpose of this law, but the threshold for releasing 12 children back to parents might need to be lower.

https://x.com/dcnewslive/status/1828861283753431145?s=46&t=R3AX3c486LFdeZpFtkN_eA


A 12 yo does not belong in juvie


Sometimes it's the only way to connect kids to services. Parents aren't able, in denial, and so on. "In juvie" means what? In detention? Because the vast majority are not. In the system? Yes; that's how to get them rehabilitation. They don't have a permanent record. It's all rehabilitative. In many cases habilitative. But dag, when a 12 year old is raping his 6 year old sister, you MUST remove him from the home. And there are cases like that


+1. I'm a teacher. Some of these kids can be likable in their own ways, however they're usually hugely disruptive at school and far below grade level academically. Very little learning takes place when we're busy trying to coax them to come into the classroom or deescalating dangerous situations. Kids who are repeatedly engaging in high risk behaviors and don't have support at home need very intensive services and clinical support that are way beyond the scope of what a regular school can offer. Putting them "in the system" isn't necessarily a bad thing if it allows them to access those services.
Anonymous
Post 08/31/2024 13:22     Subject: Car thefts by 12 yo. Released to parents
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t even know where to post this, but I’ll start here since this has to do with Montgomery county law.

A 12 year old has been stealing cars from Montgomery County dealerships. They have him on video and he was arrested but since he is only 12 the police are forced to return to release him to his parents. He’s done it again and again and again.

Part of me understands the purpose of this law, but the threshold for releasing 12 children back to parents might need to be lower.

https://x.com/dcnewslive/status/1828861283753431145?s=46&t=R3AX3c486LFdeZpFtkN_eA


A 12 yo does not belong in juvie


Sometimes it's the only way to connect kids to services. Parents aren't able, in denial, and so on. "In juvie" means what? In detention? Because the vast majority are not. In the system? Yes; that's how to get them rehabilitation. They don't have a permanent record. It's all rehabilitative. In many cases habilitative. But dag, when a 12 year old is raping his 6 year old sister, you MUST remove him from the home. And there are cases like that