Anonymous
Post 08/25/2024 14:20     Subject: August 24 SAT
Anonymous wrote:Perhaps it is not the test getting more difficult. Maybe it's the students. This year's students went through covid, around the time they were studying algebra. It shows in the sat test how much they have learnt.


Many, many students who have taken multiple SATs the first half year with the new adaptive digital test, say the March and August tests had very hard second math parts, while the other ones were a tad easier.

Also, pretty much unanimous that widely available practice test are easier than the actual tests, and very much so for the March and August tests. That's a bit frustrating of course. My DC decided tutoring would be good, and just a few sessions made a big difference. Of course don't know the results until 9/6 but DC really felt good about the most difficult math problems. (English part always went very well for whatever reason).

Anonymous
Post 08/25/2024 14:16     Subject: August 24 SAT
Anonymous wrote:My junior took it for the first time yesterday.

He was scoring high 1400s to low 1500s on recent practices - Bluebooks.

He said Math II starting around question 16 was harder than anything he had seen on practices.

His prep was Khan, Bluebooks, Question Bank (did all of the medium and hards, tracked wrongs and re-did the wrongs every other until he had learned)

It's a 2 hr 20 min test so his plan is to take repeatedly until he feels he can't improve his score further. that's up to him entirely

Yesterday felt tough enough that he will be taking October. And he's signed up for November too though he can cancel that one.

History w/ my older kids tells me that max score comes summer after junior or fall senior.


Yes, it's the last 10-15 or so math questions that are hard on the digital. They designed the test to really differentiate on the high end.
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2024 14:05     Subject: August 24 SAT
My twins took it. One gets extra time; one does not. They appear to have had completely different tests, though both are convinced they moved to harder section for both math and verbal (which makes sense as they’ve scored in low 700s on each for last test).
Both thought tests were harder than June.
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2024 11:26     Subject: August 24 SAT
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if the score report includes the actual questions they got wrong - literally the questions themselves - like the old paper QAS service did and BlueBook practices do? Or does CB keep the questions secret and just show type of question you got wrong?

"Question-and-Answer Service (QAS) and Student Answer Service (SAS) aren't available for the digital SAT."
https://satsuite.collegeboard.org/sat/scores/score-verification
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2024 11:09     Subject: August 24 SAT
Does anyone know if the score report includes the actual questions they got wrong - literally the questions themselves - like the old paper QAS service did and BlueBook practices do? Or does CB keep the questions secret and just show type of question you got wrong?
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2024 11:07     Subject: August 24 SAT
My junior took it for the first time yesterday.

He was scoring high 1400s to low 1500s on recent practices - Bluebooks.

He said Math II starting around question 16 was harder than anything he had seen on practices.

His prep was Khan, Bluebooks, Question Bank (did all of the medium and hards, tracked wrongs and re-did the wrongs every other until he had learned)

It's a 2 hr 20 min test so his plan is to take repeatedly until he feels he can't improve his score further. that's up to him entirely

Yesterday felt tough enough that he will be taking October. And he's signed up for November too though he can cancel that one.

History w/ my older kids tells me that max score comes summer after junior or fall senior.
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2024 10:42     Subject: August 24 SAT
List of people who care about the difference between 800 and 790:

1. Obsessed students
2. Obsessed parents.

END
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2024 09:44     Subject: August 24 SAT
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:math will be curved significantly- i wouldn’t fret about it being tough. Those were the ones my older 2 always scored best on - it’s the easy ones u have to worry about


It wasn't curved this spring. My kid got 1 wrong in May and a 790.

This has nothing to do with curving. The scores are rounded to the nearest ten. Since the kid got 1 wrong, they don't get a perfect 800. 790 is the next possible option.


There have been tests where a wrong answer still got 800.


DP. This is correct. It's possible that this will be the case for August; we just have to wait and see.

Also, for those interested, each module includes two experimental questions that don't count towards the score (8 total). I have mixed feelings about this, from a standardization perspective, as they are mixed in, and may use up time/stamina that should be directed toward the scored questions.
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2024 08:44     Subject: August 24 SAT
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:math will be curved significantly- i wouldn’t fret about it being tough. Those were the ones my older 2 always scored best on - it’s the easy ones u have to worry about


It wasn't curved this spring. My kid got 1 wrong in May and a 790.

This has nothing to do with curving. The scores are rounded to the nearest ten. Since the kid got 1 wrong, they don't get a perfect 800. 790 is the next possible option.


There have been tests where a wrong answer still got 800.

Anonymous
Post 08/25/2024 02:45     Subject: August 24 SAT
Perhaps it is not the test getting more difficult. Maybe it's the students. This year's students went through covid, around the time they were studying algebra. It shows in the sat test how much they have learnt.
Anonymous
Post 08/24/2024 23:53     Subject: August 24 SAT
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:math will be curved significantly- i wouldn’t fret about it being tough. Those were the ones my older 2 always scored best on - it’s the easy ones u have to worry about


It wasn't curved this spring. My kid got 1 wrong in May and a 790.

This has nothing to do with curving. The scores are rounded to the nearest ten. Since the kid got 1 wrong, they don't get a perfect 800. 790 is the next possible option.
Anonymous
Post 08/24/2024 21:52     Subject: August 24 SAT
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MY DD wanted to cancel her very first SAT scores, she is in 10th grade. Any ideas....she is worrying she will get very bad scores.... because some universities ask for all scores....


Why is a kid that is in the first month of 10th grade taking the SAT at all? Wait until next summer before 11th or fall of 11th for her first attempt, PP.



Agreed. No wonder your kid struggled. Poor kid. You need to majorly chill out.


New poster: i can see the appeal- good test taker overall, sophomore year not as stressful, already a high level math, took the psat 9 for some reason and did well, did well on a mock test, saw an older sibling regret waiting so long, etc.

Anonymous
Post 08/24/2024 21:37     Subject: August 24 SAT
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:math will be curved significantly- i wouldn’t fret about it being tough. Those were the ones my older 2 always scored best on - it’s the easy ones u have to worry about


It wasn't curved this spring. My kid got 1 wrong in May and a 790.


I think how many points they get off per wrong question may fluctuate. There aren’t exactly 80 questions in each section.


There aren't 80 (or 81) scores per section either.
Anonymous
Post 08/24/2024 21:36     Subject: August 24 SAT
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:math will be curved significantly- i wouldn’t fret about it being tough. Those were the ones my older 2 always scored best on - it’s the easy ones u have to worry about


It wasn't curved this spring. My kid got 1 wrong in May and a 790.


The variations between test administration do not see fair, especially if they don’t curve.


The scoring system is RIT - high variance statistical woo.

Unless you take the test several times, there is much random variation.

(Cue the people who got lucky on the first try saying they are smarter.)
Anonymous
Post 08/24/2024 20:52     Subject: August 24 SAT
Points per question are not equal. They have different weights. Incorrect harder questions cost less than incorrect easier questions.